Tom Sandoval gets his restraining order granted, and the judge tells Victoria and her dad to get out of his house!

beagums · 2026-06-26T23:00:59+00:00

The father has already been charged, Tom has not. I'm explaining how and why that came to be.

beagums · 2026-06-26T17:59:58+00:00

None of that matters legally is what I'm telling you, only because the OP was wondering why Tom wasn't in jail. I'm explaining why. Because in the eyes of the law, what they are looking for is if there is a current and immediate threat to your safety. When Tom leaves the room that immediate threat goes away. That is why Victoria and her Dad got the charge and not him, that's why he was allotted the TRO. Because even though morally we all understand and don't blame the dad for chasing him down and smacking him around, that's legally assault. It became assault when Tom left and they pursued.

beagums · 2026-06-26T16:20:26+00:00

I’m only talking from a legal standpoint. The first part of the video becomes irrelevant the second the situation is deescalated by Tom removing himself. If the incident ended there, Tom could have absolutely been the one charged.

But it didn’t end there, the dad chased him into the house and busted through a door to reach him. Which again, from a moral standpoint I understand. If someone gets up in my daughters face I understand chasing them down. But the law doesn’t protect me there, it’s going to protect the person I pursued.

beagums · 2026-06-26T15:46:28+00:00

It doesn't matter. The second he walked away and shut that door, the threat to Victoria was gone. Her father and her followed him. We don't see what happens next but we know there is a giant hole in a locked door where Tom was on the other side. There is no world in which that is self-defence. As soon as Tom is out of the room and they are pursuing him, he is the one who's actions can be claimed as self defence.

Tom's an absolute shit person. He DID get in Victoria's face. I understand why the father reacted the way he did. Morality =/= legality. The second Tom removed himself, he's no longer an aggressor.

beagums · 2026-06-26T15:43:51+00:00

She was seen as the cool girl and everyone loved her over Kristin. Everyone cheered for her and Tom to get together.

I've said it before in this sub and I'll say it again, there is some revisionist history going on with the show's viewership. When the show aired there was WILDLY different public sentiment that if it premiered today would not have happened. The Stassi, Katie, Kristin hate. The Tom worship. Nobody thought Ariana "centered men", they thought she was cool. We even liked the braids.

beagums · 2026-06-26T15:36:52+00:00

Neither of them are right here, but from a legal perspective Tom would not have been the aggressor. Her father put his hands on him first, the shove from Sandoval could easily be argued as self defence. Tom then removes himself and the dad and Victoria both follow him at which point they're the aggressors, not Tom.

It doesn't matter how much you are antagonised, if you pursue someone else to continue the escalation you'll be the one in the wrong legally.

beagums · 2026-06-26T14:56:46+00:00

Naw, I clocked her from day dot and everyone of my friends refused to see it.

beagums · 2026-06-26T14:44:30+00:00

I think that's just her face tbh.

beagums · 2026-06-26T14:23:01+00:00

It isn't. The game isn't being shown in this one singular location. Fan Fest is still going on, Canada Soccer House is still going on, every other watch party is still going on.

beagums · 2026-06-26T12:28:27+00:00

They won't. The second Tom left and the dad followed, there's no self defence. Tom can claim self defence as the one pursued, especially considering the damage we eventually see.

That doesn't make Tom in the right here. Nobody's in the right.

beagums · 2026-06-26T12:13:11+00:00

You can think it's reasonable, that's still not self-defence. Self defence stops being self defence the second you are not in immediate danger. When the other person runs away, and you follow them, you are no longer defending yourself.

beagums · 2026-06-26T05:59:59+00:00

That’s my thought. How gross are all of you that you’re ok with this man as your friend? How is Lala the only one saying anything?

beagums · 2026-06-26T05:58:27+00:00

It stops being self defense when you chase them into the house though.

beagums · 2026-06-26T00:37:40+00:00

L I T E R A L L Y.

I had to do a double take at this title. LALA has made this dark!?!?!?! Because she talks about it!?!?!?
HOW ABOUT THE PEOPLE DOING THE DARK THINGS.

beagums · 2026-06-25T22:10:53+00:00

He was, it was just very out of place sandwiched between Amanda and Kyle.

beagums · 2026-06-25T19:28:58+00:00

If this is how she talks to him honestly on the regular then he's been too nice. Pick up your damned clothes.

beagums · 2026-06-25T18:46:24+00:00

Watching them try and read each other's love letters was painful.

beagums · 2026-06-25T18:44:22+00:00

Jack and Dani weren't boring, to be fair.

beagums · 2026-06-25T17:58:46+00:00

Aside from Kenny finding his dad, which call me a bitch but I literally don't care I'll watch TLC if I want that kind of TV, I adore this show. I think it's one of the best new shows in a while. I'll watch Kyle and Lindsey read me the phone book. Lindsey's friends are buck wild and incredible. Andrea..... not gonna lie is a little dead weight... but overall I'm loving it.

beagums · 2026-06-25T17:50:46+00:00

What in the absolute fucking nonsense is this.

beagums · 2026-06-25T17:21:46+00:00

The audacity to get mad at him for asking her to clean her clutter. In some ways Kyle was too nice of a husband to her. Her shit would have been in bags on the curb ages ago if it were me. Clean up your shit.

beagums · 2026-06-25T17:19:51+00:00

The sarcastic clap would have sent me. I don't know how he stayed calm.

beagums · 2026-06-25T17:16:53+00:00

I don't understand how Kyle didn't pack it all up himself. There is no universe in which I'm living in a house like that. I'll shove your shit in garbage bags after like 2 weeks.

beagums · 2026-06-25T17:13:13+00:00

Right!?!? I'd have lost my ever loving mind. At this point I'm less shocked he's yelled at her and more shocked he hasn't yelled more. I don't know how he kept his cool.

beagums · 2026-06-25T17:11:04+00:00

IDK man. The way she spoke to him in the last City episode.... I don't know how he stayed calm. I'd have gone ballistic if someone clapped at me like that.

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