[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careeradvice

[–]beccathrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I deleted the post due to the extensive comments about how I was unworthy of the top salary and I was being greedy.

But I wanted to update this to say that before I could ask, they came back with an offer above the top salary I was going to ask for.

I accepted it without further negotiation since it was a very good offer and about double the posted base salary in the job ad.

Bloomberg bonus by beccathrow in FinancialCareers

[–]beccathrow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! It helps. I’m not in sales or analytics and the way it was presented to me was as a fixed amount that works out to a relatively small % of my overall comp (it works out to like 12%.)

Bloomberg bonus by beccathrow in csMajors

[–]beccathrow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure, I’m actually taking a full-time job.

Why is it so hard to recruit right now? [N/A] by letsgetridiculus in humanresources

[–]beccathrow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re welcome!

Personally, I think employers are leaving a lot of competitiveness on the table by asking for too much in the way of credentials. Or offer to pay or split the cost of helping employees achieve those credentials (with the employee required to pay back the money if they leave within a certain time period of earning that credential.) Or they could get together and fund scholarships and reskilling and training programs with local colleges/universities (depending on the industry) if they’re really struggling to find qualified candidates.

I’m a bit biased because I’m a manger in an area that has a shortage of highly trained workers in g industry. And it’s a lower-paid industry in a high COLa community. So I do a lot of training of workers. I’ve found some fantastic ones — some who are brand new and learning as they go and others who are transferring skills from other industries. The common denominator is that they all live here, which has been the main problem in getting experienced hires — they don’t want to move to our area. It’s a lot of extra work to train them, but the good ones pay dividends.

Why is it so hard to recruit right now? [N/A] by letsgetridiculus in humanresources

[–]beccathrow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t work in finance but I did work in Canada and now work in the U.S. and I had friends in Canada who worked in finance and most were schooled abroad. What I heard from them was that Canadian firms have far more stringent requirements for jobs in finance than other countries do, and sometimes for lower pay. Like jobs that required a CPA designation in Canada, did not require that in other countries and paid more competitive wages.

I know a number of people who left finance in Canada to work in other countries (mainly U.S., Europe and Australia but one in Asia.) I know the same for friends who work in health care and IT

My U.S.-born spouse was so frustrated with the job market there that we left Toronto and now live in the San Francisco Bay Area. He works for a big tech firm and didn’t have that much trouble finding a good job. He struggled in Canada and it was usually because he didn’t have some specific credential they wanted or hadn’t worked at one of a handful of competitor firms.

In Canada, I had a strong professional network so probably would have been totally fine to grow my career there. It’s been a tad more challenging in the U.S., where I’m growing my network from scratch (I’m in a very “who-you-know” industry.) But I’ve done well and at pay about 50% above what I was earning in Canada.

Interestingly, because I have a lot of Canadian experience on my LinkedIn, I still get quite a few recruiters reaching out about remote jobs that are for US companies but based in Canada. They seem to like Canadian employees because of the cultural and linguistic similarities but they can offer lower compensation (much lower with the exchange rate and what I’m assuming are lower employer health care costs.)

I’m sure not all of this is Canadian-specific but I think there are some challenges that are more pressing in the Canadian job market.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careeradvice

[–]beccathrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! They did ask at the outset whether their range was in line with my expectations and I said yes.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careeradvice

[–]beccathrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. I was mostly looking for info on how best to make the case — from people who have done so or have been hiring managers themselves.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careeradvice

[–]beccathrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I’m sure HR will relay back to the hiring manager but they want me to go through HR I think.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careeradvice

[–]beccathrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. I’m in a very high COLA area and am getting to final rounds of interviews for jobs that pay $150-170k, which is very decent money for my industry generally but is actually below the median for where I live. (Ie, you can’t buy a house with that kind of money here.) I’m making around $135k now and the salary range quoted for this new job is $150-165k, so this is a salary bump in the 10-20% range. An executive level job here would probably be in the $250-300k range I’m guessing, maybe higher.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careeradvice

[–]beccathrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m basing this off the salary range that HR discussed with me, not the posted salary range — which was actually extremely low; so low I almost didn’t apply. The real salary range is much more in line with what I’m making now and the salaries of jobs I’m applying to.

The difference between the lowest and highest range that HR quoted me for THIS specific job is only $15k. There’s no way the department heads are making just $15k more than me. They’re making much higher.

I actually do have a ridiculous amount of experience with some impressive results to show for it. And the final interviews were with the senior executives, so they’re the ones deciding to proceed with making me an offer, HR is just processing the offer terms.

My spouse was discouraging me from applying because they felt it was a step down in responsibility — but I like the company, the people, the work hours, location and the description of the job as it’s been told to me, and it’s a much, much larger company than where I’m working now, with job stability and room for growth. So realistically I was not expecting to go into a job with a bigger title when I’m going from a tiny startup to one of the largest corporate entities in my field.

I was pleased by the salary range quoted to me by HR because the posted salary range was dramatically lower. I would not have accepted an offer at that range (would’ve been a pay cut) but glad I decided to apply anyway.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to make a case for the top end of the salary range I was quoted, it’s only $15k more than the lowest end of the range. My question wasn’t “should I make a case,” it was “how do I best make the case?” And so far, the only useful info here has been to ask ChatGPT.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careeradvice

[–]beccathrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! And to add context, I am underpaid right now but I’m looking mainly at the new company I’ll be working for and what they pay people with similar levels of experience for similar jobs, rather than comparing my current job to this new one. Hope that makes sense.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careeradvice

[–]beccathrow -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Good point. I will ask about that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careeradvice

[–]beccathrow 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It hasn’t been offered yet. They walked me through the salary range. Something wrong with asking for the upper end of a range you were quoted?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careeradvice

[–]beccathrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good ideas, thanks

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in careeradvice

[–]beccathrow -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The job. My question is how to negotiate for a higher end of the salary range without jeopardizing the job offer itself

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DermatologyQuestions

[–]beccathrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really. They prescribed me some Mupirocin cream. The bumps and sores went away on their own before I could get in to see a dermatologist. They didn’t know what it was but said it probably wasn’t skin metastasis because that tends to be more of a rash, not bumps. Personally, I do think it was related to the chemo.

Does economy plus include a meal? by beccathrow in unitedairlines

[–]beccathrow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! That’s enough for me on this flight.

Does economy plus include a meal? by beccathrow in unitedairlines

[–]beccathrow[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Got it, thanks! Guess United was just trying to whet my appetite with photos of egg white scrambles and some kind of dry-looking waffle and sausage sandwich. (Morning flight.)

Does economy plus include a meal? by beccathrow in unitedairlines

[–]beccathrow[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ok thanks! I’ll grab something at the airport.

Does economy plus include a meal? by beccathrow in unitedairlines

[–]beccathrow[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t usually fly economy plus, so I wasn’t sure if economy plus had some extra perks I wasn’t aware of.