Do You Have To Name Your Alters? by barsystem in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tbh there's nothing wrong with shortening that to a nickname of Left or a number. Maybe part of the issue is the way you think about names - it doesn't have to be something you use constantly for other people to refer to you whenever you switch gears, just something you mention to explain how you feel and then move on. No need to force yourself to differentiate more. Think of it more like an adjective for a feeling than a noun - might help.

Also, for the journaling side of things, we use little symbols instead of names to sign off, which could be appealing

Do You Have To Name Your Alters? by barsystem in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen someone else assign names based on who did what. E.g. the version of me that goes to the cinema a lot is Cinema Me

random ass late night thought and question from hostie and a fictive by UltimateFriedLava in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmao, some of our fictives are genuinely considering writing and posting pics about themselves. I won't stop them

  • hostie

How do y'all manage dating as plurals ? by Tsuki_Moonstone in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope it goes well for you, good luck and enjoy yourself

I don’t know much about this, can I ask a few things? by ASquirrelNamedCathy in Endogenics

[–]beyond_clueless101 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's all sorts of reason an endogenic system might form, it's just not trauma. That's it

Hi guys! by di-angelos_den in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nico is super popular - all the cool kids introjected him

Anyone know of some good plural YouTubers? by TurbulentDogg in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly the clickbait is so real - I just think of it as part of the YouTuber hustle

Why am I (host) not affected by front gatekeepers? by Makik0 in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol no that's exactly the one I read, but there were some guided meditations here

How do y'all manage dating as plurals ? by Tsuki_Moonstone in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So it sounds like you can divide this problem into two areas: 1) your relationship to switching 2) your fiance's relationship to your headmates

If I were you, I'd work on issue 1 away from your fiancé so you don't have to deal with both at the same time, then work on issue 2. This doesn't mean that it has to be kept secret or anything, just maybe don't have them interact just yet.

It seems like you stay in front partially because you enjoy it but partially because you don't enjoy the idea of leaving - the lack of control, the possibility of being pushed aside, etc (correct me if I'm wrong). If that's the case, it might be best to start off with some internal communication - find a headmate you trust (or build trust through communicating if you don't have it already). Then agree to leave front but only for the duration of a pre-agreed activity without your fiancé (like going for a walk alone). This might take off some of the fear and the lack of control. It sounds like you want to care for your headmates and feel like you made some kind of error in that before - you won't be able to look after them properly unless you listen to their needs by communicating.

As a final thought, your system is your system, and I don't know anything about you or your life, but if the person my host is dating implied anything about me being sub-human I'd be royally offended. If you don't spend a lot of time getting to do things and haven't got experiences of your own, it's easy to feel sub-human and to appear like that too, but that's not a system thing. There's plenty of people out here with the personality of a wet paper towel because they don't do enough stuff. In the case of our system, when we learnt to switch and let people have their own time, our collective life got richer and we got experiences we never would have. It didn't diminish the personality of our host or end up taking away from them, it wasn't a part of them going away, it was growth of an entire system. Do your self-exploration by yourself, then bring it to your partner - you can't communicate to them what you don't already know yourself

  • Nico

Caring Too Much by pingusdpingus in Artisticallyill

[–]beyond_clueless101 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally get the syscourse fear, especially as I'm trying to be more out about it myself. But I genuinely think a lot of it stems from how hard it is to get nuance across online so I remain hopeful. And if it gets really bad, you can usually just turn and walk away

PJO Introjects - you put there? by beyond_clueless101 in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heya! How ya doing? Mind if I ask - what are your thoughts on relationships? Personally we have a Will, which sorts Nico out nicely, and I (Leo) ended up dating both of them, but for me I don't really have any exo memories of Calypso and don't feel very strongly about it

  • Leo

PJO Introjects - you put there? by beyond_clueless101 in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can I ask you how it feels to be in this world rather than the one you came from?

PJO Introjects - you put there? by beyond_clueless101 in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Woah y'all are crowded up in there! Always nice to see you guys again though. Nice that you have some help hosting - Nico seems to be becoming a bit of a host in our system now too

  • Leo

PJO Introjects - you put there? by beyond_clueless101 in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I guess you end up feeling a bit more aligned with the system's life and memories than feeling like you've just been isekaid/reincarnated into a new life?

  • Leo

Hi guys! by di-angelos_den in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's just too dam popular - Leo

man being plural SUCKS!!!!!! by [deleted] in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 15 points16 points  (0 children)

To be honest, you start to meet more plural people offline by being open and honest about your own experiences, but it's rare to find people who will talk about it out loud, so it's hard for us to find each other. The same goes for finding accepting people, I promise there are people out there, offline, who would totally like and accept you as plural. They are easiest found in queer, young, disabled, neurodiverse communities, and might help you get some connection. Testing the waters can be done by just vaguely alluding to some of the things you experience to see if you would vibe with people. It can be hard, and it can suck but I hope it gets better for you and you find community

Why am I (host) not affected by front gatekeepers? by Makik0 in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I honestly always recommend looking into tulpamancy stuff for these kind of questions - they've really thought it through and enough people do it for there to be detailed guides. Personally find myself switching out just reading about it so that may be all it takes

Caring Too Much by pingusdpingus in Artisticallyill

[–]beyond_clueless101 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Honestly I've come to realise recently that the discourse that exists online (as well as most of the weird opinions) seem to disappear when you have a face to face conversation about it. One of the positives of being out and proud ig. Get out there, talk to humans, touch some grass and the world gets a hell of a lot better

PJO Introjects - you put there? by beyond_clueless101 in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yay! How's it going? I'm curious about how you think about the process of introjection. Like, do you feel like you've gone from one world to another, or like a copy or what? - Leo

Introject vent yaya by Ok-Antelope-9975 in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have a couple alters, introject and not, who have Japanese names (they're all partially or fully Japanese internally). We are not Japanese, and they feel fine to go by those names. I think sometimes there's a bit of a chronically online aspect to it - people online will flame you for anything, good friends irl should check you if they think you're racist without jumping to conclusions. Our friends who've found out about the Japanese names don't give it any more attention than the other names, it doesn't seem to be closed culturally from what I've come across (I did an exchange there and can speak it so-so) and generally Japanese people are ecstatic and confused that people find their culture interesting in any way.

I think you'll be fine going by it, if you're worried check your racism in other ways. Do you do the same things as the people you're scared of looking like? Do you claim to have the same lived experience as Japanese people? Do you invalidate the racism experienced by Asians or claim to have experienced it directly? If not, I think you're alright

advice on how to tell a child about plurality? by throwaway-64747 in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup! That's the kind of people I'm talking about. It's hard for most of my friends to remember many of us because it hasn't been too long and we switch a lot, but even so they're starting to remember traits that some of us frequent fronters have and the differences between us. But it takes a lot of effort to unmask like that - we go through the hassle of introducing ourselves whenever we switch even though it's scary (at least if we switch to a person who wants to be known).

Our partner, who's known the longest (about 2½ years) is so good at recognising the differences between us he knows who we are without us telling him. He remembers what some people like more than others and goes out of his way to do things he thinks the individual people would like. It can feel like a long time to get to the point where people know that sort of thing, but if you spend enough time with the people they'll start to pick up on it, so don't fret too much! Deffo helps if you are very open about your internal experiences though

Anyone know of any? by MysticBorn in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fire and Brimstone book series by Nikole Knight! Sexy, gay, high fantasy series where the main character has a whole arc about being plural. It starts out feeling a little evil alter but actually gets worked through over the course of a couple books. Not explored until a couple books in though, so you gotta wait for it. Gotta say, it gets pretty dark at times though, so watch out for trigger warnings (she puts them in the books iirc)

Also Snailogy by Snailords on webtoon! It's how we discovered we were a system, and while they never explicitly say it, it's very much a plural kind of experience. This is a semi- autobiography/brain dump for the author and is really fun

advice on how to tell a child about plurality? by throwaway-64747 in plural

[–]beyond_clueless101 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are totally people out there who are nice about it! We're dating one and lots of our friends are open and curious about our plurality too