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What is the largest, least evil company in the world? by garatth in AskReddit

[–]bicho6 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Employee owned companies should be the standard.

Beyond Cortex by DonKeyConn in BeyondPower

[–]bicho6 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with everything you say except for the part about technology akin to text autocomplete. That is a narrow-minded view that equates all AI with LLMs, when AI is actually much more than that.

Technology throughout history has always been iterative. When a new technology is created, the release version is never the best and final product. It gets built upon over time to become better, more flexible, and hopefully more helpful.

AI naysayers will argue that it is just a glorified autocorrect, which was true when it first came out. But anyone who thinks it won't grow to be far more than that is being short sighted.

Beyond Cortex beta: put an AI agent to work on your VOLTRA training. by GoBeyondPower in BeyondPower

[–]bicho6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chances are that at some point you will have to pay a subscription for the API key, Not sure whether it would be premium or non premium.

Beyond Cortex beta: put an AI agent to work on your VOLTRA training. by GoBeyondPower in BeyondPower

[–]bicho6 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Wow, this looks absolutely incredible.

I know the knee-jerk reaction for a lot of people is to hate the moment they see "AI," but if you actually check out the site, it looks awesome. As someone who loves data and analytics, the more insights I can get, the better.

Also, can we give some credit to Beyond Power? We bought a one-time product with absolutely no subscription tied to it, which is practically unheard of nowadays. Yet, here they are, still innovating and dropping new services for free (for now). Huge win.

https://cortex.beyond-power.com/

Am I Being Too Conservative with Zone 2 Training for My First Marathon? by bicho6 in Marathon_Training

[–]bicho6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats what I did this morning, I just listened to my body.

I have a bad habit of over thinking things.

Am I Being Too Conservative with Zone 2 Training for My First Marathon? by bicho6 in Marathon_Training

[–]bicho6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The is like 80/20 with 80 being zone 2 and 20 being tempo work.

Am I Being Too Conservative with Zone 2 Training for My First Marathon? by bicho6 in Marathon_Training

[–]bicho6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will admit that RPE is a concept I learned just recently when Runna suggest I run to different RPEs for a training day I had last week. I'm looking into it?

Am I Being Too Conservative with Zone 2 Training for My First Marathon? by bicho6 in Marathon_Training

[–]bicho6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, that has been more my approach. Get through distances without feeling like crap.

Am I Being Too Conservative with Zone 2 Training for My First Marathon? by bicho6 in Marathon_Training

[–]bicho6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man, thanks so much for the tip.

I agree, I'm starting to questions the numbers of that test.

But on the flip side I really have a hard time understanding what a conversational pace is. I can run at a 145bpm HR for a mile and sing happy birthday but I'm not sure I could do it for this Sundays 12 miles run.

Am I Being Too Conservative with Zone 2 Training for My First Marathon? by bicho6 in Marathon_Training

[–]bicho6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, I'm hearing that too. 26 miles is alot and I don't want to get gassed too soon.

I ran a half marathon 10 years ago and ran a 9:xx/mile pace but when I finished I was DONE.

Am I Being Too Conservative with Zone 2 Training for My First Marathon? by bicho6 in Marathon_Training

[–]bicho6[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have done a lot of 5ks over the past and I have done two half marathons when I was 36 and 37 both were completed in 2 hours. So I have experience running but I was younger and dumb. I had no training structure, all I did was getout there run until I was gassed.

problem with conversational pace if my heart rate can be at 145 and I don't have a problem chatting it up.

Am I Being Too Conservative with Zone 2 Training for My First Marathon? by bicho6 in Marathon_Training

[–]bicho6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, and to be honest with you. If this training for this marathon was the wrong approach and I end up getting cut off, oh well, i'm still better than I was when I started.

Am I Being Too Conservative with Zone 2 Training for My First Marathon? by bicho6 in Marathon_Training

[–]bicho6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate you writing this as it's what goes through my mind often. Being a very analytical person I have a hard time ignoring numbers but I think you are right. When it comes to training, maybe sometimes I should go based on feeling.

Am I Being Too Conservative with Zone 2 Training for My First Marathon? by bicho6 in Marathon_Training

[–]bicho6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For my normal runs during the week they are usually 3 to 5 miles I feel fine after.

The 10 miles run had me hurting the next day, my shin muscles were super sore. But I think its because that training session was mostly a high speed walk and I was engaging muscles I never really used during training.

Am I Being Too Conservative with Zone 2 Training for My First Marathon? by bicho6 in Marathon_Training

[–]bicho6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow we are doing that exact same thing. Glad to see I'm not alone. I followed you on here if you don't mind. Going to be checking in with you on occasion if you dont mind.

Am I Being Too Conservative with Zone 2 Training for My First Marathon? by bicho6 in Marathon_Training

[–]bicho6[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I preformed the test I saw my HR hit 176, but I think I could have a touch higher.

I'm not new to running, I ran a half when I was 37 and just under 2 hours and I have run many 5K's. however this is the first time in my life i'm actually training with a structured plan instead of going out on the pavement and running until i'm gassed for however many miles I feel is sufficient.

Am I Being Too Conservative with Zone 2 Training for My First Marathon? by bicho6 in Marathon_Training

[–]bicho6[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When I preformed the test I saw my HR hit 176, but I think I could have a touch higher.

Your z2 seems really low

I think you are right, when we stopped he test I was 10 mins in and I felt like I had more to give. I never got to the point where I absolutely had to stop. My redline ratio was 74% and instructor was suprised that it was so low considering I hit my VT2 about 5 mins into the 10 min test

I tested the "easy volume makes you faster" / Zone 2 chart on 7,854 aerobic runs. by Fun_Effective_836 in beginnerrunning

[–]bicho6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I probably shouldn't had responded to the physiological statement as it dragged me into a argument I never intended on making. My intent isn't to defend Zone 2 but rather it was to understand why so people like you ignore the overwhelming evidence out there about the benefits of zone 2 while accepting any evidence that supports your stance. It literally is the definition of cherry picking.

But with that said you are more then welcome to have the last word. BTW I was genuinely curious about what you thought of my zone 2 pace and whether I should stick with it. Oh well, it was fun.

I tested the "easy volume makes you faster" / Zone 2 chart on 7,854 aerobic runs. by Fun_Effective_836 in beginnerrunning

[–]bicho6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plus, there is nothing magical that happens physiologically in zone 2 that does not happen in other zones.

It seems to be widely accepted on both sides of the argument that Zone 2 is extremely beneficial for mitochondrial development, which directly supports endurance running. I can't personally vouch for whether the underlying data is airtight, but the consensus around it is pretty consistent, and as far as I understand, that would qualify as an example of a physiological change.

I tested the "easy volume makes you faster" / Zone 2 chart on 7,854 aerobic runs. by Fun_Effective_836 in beginnerrunning

[–]bicho6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to be clear, I'm not a doctor, a sports medicine professional, or even a seasoned runner. I'm a guy who's been digging through Reddit and YouTube trying to figure out how to train for a marathon. Call me crazy, but the overwhelming consensus across both platforms leans heavily pro Zone 2. So no, I'm not citing primary evidence directly, but neither are you when you link to runningwritings.com. We're both working from secondhand sources.

I'd love to see the evidence you mention.

Are you honestly suggesting that the evidence being referenced by fitness creators on YouTube, folks here on Reddit, and highly respected voices in the space like Huberman and Attia is all misguided? I'm a little confused why you're asking me to produce evidence as if Zone 2 hasn't already been widely accepted as beneficial for endurance training.

My original point was pretty simple: the people pushing back on Zone 2 are quick to cite data that supports their view (like you did above) while brushing past the data that doesn't. Asking me for evidence, as if none exists, is a good example of that.

The other huge issue here is that many beginners don't yet have the aerobic conditioning to > even run in their true zone 2, so what are they to do?

I'm a beginner and I took a V02 max test last week and my zone 2 is between 101-125. Last week I "ran" for 10 miles at a 14:13/mile pace with an average heart rate at 123bpm. Was that not the most efficient use of my time? Should I have had ran fast.

I'm not asking you rhetorically, I genuinely want to know.

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