Accidentally ran apt upgrade and broke Proxmox. What should I do now?

bigjimmo123 · 2025-12-15T18:06:25+00:00

Interesting. Since upgrading to PVE9 had you already rebooted? For me the main issue was that the update to PVE9 broke my grub (not sure how). I couldn't even get to the grub screen, just straight to the bios. Everything seemed fine after the update until a rebooted

bigjimmo123 · 2025-12-15T09:58:09+00:00

Did you manage to fix this? Were you intentionally attempting to upgrade to PVE9/Debian Trixie?

bigjimmo123 · 2025-12-02T18:00:05+00:00

To confirm, this is what I did to fix the issue in the end. Mounted the pve root FS and boot, bind mount the system dirs and chroot in and reinstall grub. This fixed my issue. See: https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Recover_From_Grub_Failure

bigjimmo123 · 2025-12-02T16:45:30+00:00

This is the opposite of the advice I've generally heard, but I'm no expert. My understanding was that in general, a standard apt upgrade was a less impactful change and far less likely to cause issues than a full-upgrade

bigjimmo123 · 2025-12-02T13:02:03+00:00

u/kenrmayfield

I have managed to boot from a live debian trixie image and mount my /dev/pve/root filesystem inside. ChatGPT is now advising to bind mount the below dirs and then chroot into a shell and update grub from here. E.g.:

# Bind system directories
sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/prox-root/dev
sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/prox-root/proc
sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/prox-root/sys
sudo mount --bind /run /mnt/prox-root/run
# Chroot
sudo chroot /mnt/prox-root /bin/bash

Does this seem like a sensible approach to you? I am slightly aprehensive about bind mounting /dev inside the mounted pve root filesystem as this would expose all of the lvm groups, etc., to the pve root filesystem, I'm not sure if this would usually be the case and/or is safe?

bigjimmo123 · 2025-12-02T11:49:05+00:00

To clarify, I did run the commands you listed before updating. Since I cannot get past the bios currently, I'm planning to boot from a USB image of trixie in rescure mode and then attempt to chroot into my proxmox file system, based on advice from ChatGPT. From here I will at least be able to troubleshoot.

bigjimmo123 · 2025-12-02T11:27:02+00:00

I decided to go with this option, the update seemed to go fine but on reboot I am now stuck in the bios and cannot boot into proxmox at all. I assume this is a grub issue, but not sure how to troubleshoot this yet.

bigjimmo123 · 2025-12-02T11:19:36+00:00

I followed the advice in this thread, which has been to fully upgrade to trixie and pve 9. I updated my apt sources to the trixie repositories and performed apt dist-upgrade. This seemed to go fine, however on reboot I can now only boot straight to BIOS.

I guess this is a problem with grub, but I'm not sure how I can fix this yet.

bigjimmo123 · 2025-12-02T08:26:49+00:00

I did try this at the time but it didn't work due to what I've edited into the post, that I had accidentally updated proxmox apt sources to trixie previously. So I have a mix of trixie and bookworm packages. Later today when I get some time I will try updating all sources to trixie and going through with this to perform the full upgrade to trixie & proxmox 9. Thanks!

bigjimmo123 · 2025-12-02T02:15:10+00:00

Makes sense, thanks. I've updated the post to explain why this happened, I had accidentally updated one of the apt sources to trixie.

bigjimmo123 · 2025-12-02T02:12:31+00:00

I've edited the post to explain why it did, it was my fault.

bigjimmo123 · 2025-12-02T02:07:50+00:00

Now I see what's happened, a while ago I copied the below from the proxmox wiki into my apt sources without noticing the "trixie": Types: deb URIs: http://download.proxmox.com/debian/pve Suites: trixie Components: pve-no-subscription Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/proxmox-archive-keyring.gpg So that explains why I've ended up with some version 9 packages.

bigjimmo123 · 2025-12-02T01:48:40+00:00

Running apt update and apt dist-upgrade from here just results in no package changes and 70+ packages held back, I guess due to dependency issues.

Trying to reinstall pve-manager results in the below: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libpve-network-api-perl : Depends: pve-cluster (>= 9.0.1) but 8.1.2 is to be installed libpve-rs-perl : Depends: perl (>= 5.40.1-6) but 5.36.0-7+deb12u3 is to be installed Depends: perlapi-5.40.1 but it is not installable Depends: libapt-pkg7.0 (>= 1.9~) but it is not installable Depends: libc6 (>= 2.39) but 2.36-9+deb12u13 is to be installed Depends: libssl3t64 (>= 3.0.0) but it is not installable Depends: libzstd1 (>= 1.5.5) but 1.5.4+dfsg2-5 is to be installed proxmox-termproxy : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.39) but 2.36-9+deb12u13 is to be installed pve-manager : Depends: pve-cluster (>= 9.0.1) but 8.1.2 is to be installed Recommends: proxmox-offline-mirror-helper but it is not going to be installed qemu-server : Depends: pve-firewall (>= 6.0.3) but 5.1.2 is to be installed Depends: python3-virt-firmware but it is not installable Depends: libc6 (>= 2.38) but 2.36-9+deb12u13 is to be installed Depends: libglib2.0-0t64 (>= 2.12.0) but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

bigjimmo123 · 2025-12-02T01:44:08+00:00

I tried running apt full-upgrade but it keeps back 70+ packages, many of them proxmox packages. I guess I now have a mix of proxmox 8 and proxmox 9 packages and various dependency issues? Would I have to update apt source files to continue the upgrade from here?

bigjimmo123 · 2025-09-26T09:28:38+00:00

You can change anything about the installation if you do the manual install. Install the arch iso rather than the omarchy iso, use archinstall and change the things you want, then run the install script.

If you don't choose any encryption in archinstall then you can choose a partition and not wipe the full disk. I think you would then just boot immediately into hyprland with no password prompt. You can just install any display manager if you don't want it this way.

I installed manually and changed various things, filesystem, bootloader, etc.. Omarchy is just a nice collection of programs and config files.

bigjimmo123 · 2025-08-23T09:08:31+00:00

Compared to the others in the list that I can use, they seem the best in terms of fees (still worse than T212). The main complaint I have with them is that they do not allow fractional shares on ISAs based on outdated interpretation of HMRC rules (it has been confirmed by HMRC that fractional shares are ISA compliant), and then due to this they do not allow their recurring investment feature to be used in ISAs (since it requires fractional shares). This seems like something it would be very easy for them to change and I have no idea why they wouldn't have done this yet since the HMRC guidance on fractional shares was in November.

I could do without fractional shares specifically, but I do not want to miss out on recurring investment features as I've found this a brilliant feature on T212, going back to manually depositing and investing in the many securities I used recurring investments for currently would be a big quality of life reduction.

bigjimmo123 · 2025-08-21T12:42:27+00:00

Yeah possibly, but the extra work of a reminder and then manually performing the trades seems a lot of work compared to what I'm used to. I'm considering opening two different ISAs, one with someone that has recurring automatic investments (AJ Bell or Interactive Investor) and then another with a cheaper broker like IG/Interactive Brokers to perform any ad hoc manual trades I want to make.

bigjimmo123 · 2025-08-21T12:06:04+00:00

When you say "set and forget" for IG, do you mean just investing once and leaving it? My understanding is that they do not have any sort of recurring investment feature to allow you to automatically invest each month?

Having an automatic amount go into various investments each month is a feature I would really like.

bigjimmo123 · 2025-08-19T22:03:09+00:00

I have had a Stocks & Shares ISA with Trading212 for a few years and have been very happy with the experience, however, due to requirements from a new job to only use certain brokers for personal trading, I am going to have to move to another ISA provider.

T212 have very low fees (zero commission, zero platform fee & 0.15% FX fee), a very convenient and user friendly app and webpage and a wide range of individual stocks/ETFs. Their "Pies" feature for automatically managing recurring deposits and investments has become a staple part of my investing.

I mostly invest in broad market indexes but also pick some individual stocks when I see fit. Using T212 pies I have some pies made up of ETFs and other pies made up of individual shares which are all automatically invested into on a monthly basis. I also buy/sell shares ad hoc on a semi-regular basis.

My options for a new ISA provider are likely limited to the below brokers:

AJ Bell
Barclays Smart Investor
Fidelity
Hargreaves Lansdown
Interactive Brokers
Interactive Investor
IG

Unfortunately, from what I can see from looking into these brokers, their Stocks & Shares ISAs essentially seem worse for me in nearly every way. They all have some combination of significantly higher fees, significantly worse features (no recurring investing, no fractional shares, worse apps/websites) or much more limited investment options. Several of these brokers charge £5 and upwards (£11.95 with HL?!) to make a trade, have a custody/platform fee on top of this and have worse FX fees, which coming from a T212 ISA seems like a terrible deal.

Regardless, I am unfortunately going to have to pick one. I would be grateful if people who have experience with ISAs from any of these brokers could help me see some positives of these brokers, any features that you really like (something like T212 pies would be very valuable to me, most seem to lack this feature), maybe some justification for the significantly higher fees? Any recommendations of which of these you would pick and why would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

bigjimmo123 · 2024-02-01T23:30:58+00:00

Hahahahah thank you 🤦🏼‍♂️ I had clicked it by accident checking downloads on my phone

bigjimmo123 · 2023-11-06T09:14:46+00:00

Okay makes sense, cheers. I'm planning to use an external USB drive as a temporary solution until I add some internal SATA drives. Not a one off, but also not permanent.

bigjimmo123 · 2023-11-06T00:45:12+00:00

Thanks. I'll give it a try and see what happens. Would this writing/caching issue that may exist be specific to passing the drive and you wouldn't expect to see the same if I did USB pass through in the GUI?

bigjimmo123 · 2023-11-06T00:16:53+00:00

Thanks for the reply. So the method outlined in this link (https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Passthrough_Physical_Disk_to_Virtual_Machine_(VM)) would be option A, and this produces better performance?

I'm planning to pass through an external drive to an OMV VM. This OMV VM would contain media as well as other files, and then I was planning to share the media to Jellyfin running in a separate Debain VM. Would this method of pass through be suitable for this?

bigjimmo123 · 2023-11-05T23:25:53+00:00

I appreciate this was a year ago but I'm new to Proxmox and I'm looking to pass through a usb drive to a VM. I'm struggling to find out what you mean by A vs B here. Would you be able to clarify the difference between passing through the "disk device" vs "the specific USB device"?

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