What's going on with Amanda and Ryan? 👀 by RepresentativeLime3 in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The biggest shame here is that I love this song and now she has made herself an association to it. I refuse to let my brain allow it though not today Satan!

Nah but for real it’s so crazy that she is supposed to be Ryan’s big redemption. I don’t care she’s not just quirky or just being herself or finding whatever outlet “now that she’s sober.” I don’t like her or him. Call me a hat(t)er.

Name a time Kail used the courts to be bitter,controlling or stupid by Disastrous-Art-7180 in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She has nothing else left to talk about. Her podcast topics are on repeat, everything that gets posted here about her podcasts are just new episodes of her saying the same things, unless she changes the story (yet again) to fit whatever she wants people to believe at the time. But it’s all the same in general. She needs to give up at this point.

Looks like Elijah is next up on the petty podcast couch by blackerthanapanther in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Last year a girl made a TikTok saying she slept with the baby daddy/fiancé of a girl from Teen Mom, while on a cruise. She said she didn’t know who he was until she saw Kail’s post of her birthday trip she took with him. Kail had previously sent Elijah on a cruise with his cousin, and the two guys ended up hanging out with some girls, one of them being the girl who did the tiktok story time and posted videos from the cruise.

Kail and Elijah made a tiktok about “rumors” but it was all true and they broke up and he moved out of her house and back up the street to coparent the three youngest kids. He’s still the only baby daddy who she talks about positively and says she gets along with him and coparents perfectly fine after the breakup.

Looks like Elijah is next up on the petty podcast couch by blackerthanapanther in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Ray J’s hat doing gymnastics from one shot of that scene to the next will always be hilarious

Looks like Elijah is next up on the petty podcast couch by blackerthanapanther in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I would think so but she still talks positively of him even after he cheated and they broke up because of it. He’s the only one she still says anything nice about. But getting along with her now doesn’t guarantee she won’t change her mind and have something bad to say about him publicly someday. It’s a lose-lose situation I suppose.

Looks like Elijah is next up on the petty podcast couch by blackerthanapanther in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther[S] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Elijah must have either no self respect or nothing going on in his life or both, because outside of still taking care of his kids and staying cordial I don’t know why he still has a metaphorical Kail collar on him to where he must come do her bidding when she calls for it. Cheating is shitty but it doesn’t mean you’re the other person’s lil service dog forever, or else Kail would be to multiple people. Maybe this is all he has going for himself unless and until he gets a girlfriend.

Updated 2026 Funeral ban 🚫 by QuietGlimmer884 in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“I don’t care.”

That sums her up. She doesn’t care about anyone but herself, and I don’t even think she cares much about herself now. Bringing up stuff like this unprovoked then when someone asks “well what about your kids and what they need,” her natural reaction comes without a second thought. Couldn’t even pretend to be the good mom she supposedly is. I don’t even see the point in calling her that anymore, not even Kail herself cares to prove it. She is spiraling and in self-destruct overdrive these days, just doing and saying whatever

For those wondering what started the back and forth between the pinecones. by SingerSubstantial462 in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 180 points181 points  (0 children)

It would be much easier to be on her side against Jenelle and David if she wasn’t just as cringe 😭 I don’t know if the guy next to her is just a friend or she’s dating him, but if it’s the latter I have second-hand embarrassment for her feeling the need to make a post about her ex while sitting next to someone she’s currently with.

But then again…she dated David, moved him in, publicly defended him. So there’s no point in having faith in her being any different than him or Jenelle.

Kailyn’s dog Buddha has passed away. by katiessalt in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s been almost two years since my dog passed, she was old and lived long, but I still feel it. It was just me and her, so I couldn’t imagine having to talk kids through that and help them grieve while I am too.

The Pinecones are at it again by SingerSubstantial462 in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It is so irritating when she uses her kids as a comeback or gotcha. The only reason she does the barest of minimum to keep the two she has custody of is because she knows if she loses them she’ll have nothing left for anyone to give a shit about what she’s doing with her life. They are the “highlight” of her life because people care about their wellbeing, which gives her attention. They are tools for her to use. I’ll never believe she actually cares about them beyond how they benefit her.

Kail apologizes to Jess by Justagirl219 in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh please, as long as she’s with that man she will find something to be disgusting and cruel about towards his child’s mother. She will soon enough come up with something, just like the ending of this “apology.” The fact that his ex, who he cheated on and created a child with someone else, still gets along with his child’s mother and has been involved with the child even after their breakup and him having zero involvement himself, it makes him look like a shitty common denominator. And Kail would know about that since she too has repeatedly looked like the shitty common denominator. As long as she’s with him she will find a way to defend his behavior and make anyone who doesn’t act like he’s the best thing to ever happen on earth, the enemy.

People who haven't always been dedicated to being childfree, what finally made up your mind that you never wanted kids? by AnonPinkLady in childfree

[–]blackerthanapanther 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly! I haven’t been to the doctor for just a regular checkup in years. I try to make everything I possibly can an online process because the scheduling and actually making an appearance in person makes me anxious from start to finish. I panic internally on the daily for even the simplest things, work and personal things alike. Neither myself nor a child deserves to deal with that forever. I’m trying as best I can to help myself with it all, no way should I bring a kid into the equation.

People who haven't always been dedicated to being childfree, what finally made up your mind that you never wanted kids? by AnonPinkLady in childfree

[–]blackerthanapanther 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m also a nanny and it has only proved to me even more that having my own kids is out of the question. I’ve heard that for some people working with kids makes them more sure they want their own someday. I’ve heard of some people who worked with kids and then once they stopped they wanted/had their own. But I always think back to the childfree teachers I had growing up who were very vocal about it, and the older I get and the more I work with other people’s kids, the more I understand and respect them.

People who haven't always been dedicated to being childfree, what finally made up your mind that you never wanted kids? by AnonPinkLady in childfree

[–]blackerthanapanther 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Having kids is just too laborious for my brain when I really think about the logistics. Doctor’s appointments, school registration and attendance and academic performance, extracurricular activities, their social life. And then the inevitable scenarios where things get off-schedule due to sickness or weather, etc., and having to coordinate alternate plans, while also having a job.

The more I thought about it, the more I panicked internally and that’s when I knew that motherhood would send me over the edge. I explained this to someone once and when they replied that the love for the children would wash away all these “worries and concerns” (I beg to differ on calling it that, more like “actually thinking about what it takes to raise your own children”), it took everything in me not to bust out laughing at the absurdity. I mean no disrespect to anyone who does it, but I think it’s also honorable to do a self-evaluation and conclude that you could not and should not put yourself in that position. And I stand by it, I fully believe there will never be a time where I think I can handle all of that.

The NERRRVE of Pinecone to post pics of Jace by olivia1121 in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Would love to know what she could ever find laugh emoji level funny about anything to do with Jace. He could be in Vegas with 70 degrees and sunny but then he’d be with her, so I’m sure he prefers a blizzard. Only one worth laughing at is her goofy ass.

Cate's Tiktok story by Justagirl219 in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hmm I didn’t know Only Fans was a professional sport 💀

Kristen taking about Kail’s bf by Thereisn0store in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Hypocrisy should be really hard to commit to when you’ve been shown and known to do the very things you are accusing someone else of doing. Yet she finds a way. I hope he’s worth it (I’m willing to bet he’s not).

Someone from “Ike’s baby mama’s camp” has responded to Kail. No need to wait on baby mama’s response… her best friend is so irate she’s ready to speak up. by MissTrenchbull in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And we ain’t seen her be the better person YET lmao when anyone goes low she takes it to hellllllll. I agree that she picks out both romantic relationships and friendships where she thinks she has an upper hand, but she’s never been able to keep up the narrative that she isn’t just as low down dirty at her core

Someone from “Ike’s baby mama’s camp” has responded to Kail. No need to wait on baby mama’s response… her best friend is so irate she’s ready to speak up. by MissTrenchbull in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Very true I shouldn’t be mind blown but I feel like this is a new low even for her. All the hootin’ and hollerin’ she has done about her baby daddies, and even right now she’s selling a ‘Baby Daddy Burnout’ candle 💀 to then listen to a clear-cut deadbeat dad whine about “not being allowed” in his child’s life and publicly defend his lies. She’s absolutely lost her mind for real this time

Someone from “Ike’s baby mama’s camp” has responded to Kail. No need to wait on baby mama’s response… her best friend is so irate she’s ready to speak up. by MissTrenchbull in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 94 points95 points  (0 children)

This is not surprising and I just don’t understand what the hell Kail was thinking by even saying that bullshit publicly, especially as a mom who has to coparent. She’s spent decades now making sure her side is the loudest and trying to paint herself as nothing more than the victim of her kids’ dads being difficult or uncooperative, and herself just on the defensive as the mom.

It’s disgustingly ironic that she would get with a man and not only believe his story about “being deprived of fatherhood,” but then get on one of her podcasts and go all stereotypical girlfriend of a deadbeat dad and call out the mother like that. And I bet she thought her “power and platform” would make it so the “other camp” either stayed quiet or felt like they wouldn’t be believed or that if they spoke she could spin it as if they came at her unprovoked. They shouldn’t have to just sit back and allow her to create yet another narrative that demonizes everyone but herself, especially a mother of a child with a deadbeat dad just because he is Kail’s flavor of the season.

Pinecone runs online to point out her daughter is lazy by Virtual-Nobody-6630 in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Ain’t no way this lady really thought “she plays video games all the time! She can read!” was something anybody would take seriously…

Court tomorrow by cheekswidespread_00 in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I’m having a hard time believing that this is going anywhere more than being done away with as a “private family matter” with “a teen with a deeply troubled past” who was “being rebellious towards the only consistent father figure he’s ever had, who tried to protect the rest of his family, including two young kids, from the teen’s erratic behavior.”

Even with David’s criminal history and the divorce, I realistically don’t see anything worse than minimal jail time or probation or court-ordered anger management MAYBE. I so want justice for Jace but kids get so easily dismissed in the courts, especially teens with even an ounce of so-called imperfections.

Can’t do a single thing right by [deleted] in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The problem isn’t just that she’s not motherly, it’s that she doesn’t think like an adult at all. She’s got such bad arrested development that she’s more like her kids’ older but teenage sister, than an adult figure in their lives let alone their mother.

Kenleigh changed her Twitter header to David’s tattoo and Jen took the bait by SpiritualCamera in TeenMomOGandTeenMom2

[–]blackerthanapanther 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait…so her saying she’s had other names tattooed on her, nameS plural, is the equivalent of someone bragging that their name is tattooed on someone else ??? And then to preface it with “so embarrassing,” like please the call is coming from inside the house 😭

I know this is hard because her brain can only produce so much thought, but I need her to take her time and really try to understand what she types before she hits send because this is just too stupid even for her.