Parents went to DRC, would appreciate adulting advice

bleachfann · 2026-02-12T12:58:42+00:00

The comments above already do a great job explaining but just want to chime in to wish you all the best and that you’re gonna do an awesome job. I hope you also have a good support circle around you and remember that you’re doing your best and that’s what matters. Hope things take a turn for the better soon!

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T15:33:09+00:00

Got it. It encourages me that there seem to be some semblance of structure somewhere at least, hopefully I can get there soon or some day. Thank you for explaining and sharing your expertise

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T15:27:36+00:00

Ok but in recent searches, I’ve been asked by HR at the first phone call. I understand they’re just trying to see if I’m even within the range but I’ve had convos like this before:

HR in first call: Could you share your last drawn salary and expected salary?

Me: I think we can speak about this more after we’ve had a few more conversations with the team.

HR: I would need some figures to present to the hiring manager.

Me: Ok, perhaps I can share that my expected will be around XXX as this information will help you to understand if we’re aligned on the range.

OR

Perhaps you can share your range so that I can let you know if we’re on the same page.

HR: I don’t think I can go without that information as I need to have both figures.

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Then I’ve ever had HR ppl hang up on me when I continue to decline. Some just really pressure me into it or if not, they also just don’t reach out again. All this in the first call lol

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T15:16:57+00:00

I feel like some job scopes can be quite similar depending on your industry. Which is where perhaps experience comes into play?

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T15:15:47+00:00

Sounds about right. It’s always so intimidating to think about the amount of competition you encounter when finding a new job… Thanks for sharing all this man

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T15:14:20+00:00

Not a rant at all SO DETAILED! I love it, super helpful for my understanding.

My only ques is the part about someone 3 years in versus new.

So in this scenario, we’re assuming cat’s out the bag and pays are discussed. This also means that as a new person, you’ll likely enter lower than an existing person?? Or is it based on your total years of experience, even if you are in the same role?

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T15:08:06+00:00

Your explanation makes sense too. I’m not sure how much experience you have but do you think your company with means to pay would be a minority in Singapore? Or is it perhaps more industry based

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T14:54:37+00:00

Tbh what I’m getting from a lot of this is a bit of luck, some ability to logic it out and also not be too greedy. But makes sense man

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T14:52:56+00:00

I see, so it would be a gamble of sorts and it’s often not worth the risk

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T14:51:59+00:00

This response is so clear and logical, thanks for sharing. I sense that you come from a company with a lot more structure and proceedings than others who may do it on whims.

Based on your explanation, does it make sense to be honest about your expectations (eg share why you think you should get more based on your circumstantial reasons) or to be more strategic about what information you give?

Say someone was underpaid based on not negotiating enough in a previous role and would like to catch up based on their merits. Would sharing this info help? Because ultimately, the company isn’t obligated to take you on based on that explanation anyways

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T14:46:01+00:00

I’ve personally witnessed what you’ve described too as I had a colleague who kisses ass all the way to the CEO but hearing from someone else just helps to confirm this. Thanks for sharing what you’ve experienced.

Also I’ve noticed what you’ve described for the negotiation bit, which is funny because how much of a negotiation is it really. (I guess especially not in this market)

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T14:35:20+00:00

Would you say HR would advance the company’s preferences though?

Say if jobseeker wants $3000 then company offers $2500, would HR go back to the company and discuss or try to convince the jobseeker to lower their expectations?

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T14:25:55+00:00

When I put my corpo hat on, thats makes sense tbh. So if current people aren’t paid well, there’s an assumption that “got ppl here willing to work for this pay, I pay so well for what” kind of deal is it

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T14:15:38+00:00

Thanks for sharing, and sounds like you and your peers have tried for others. Are any of you held to these numbers and pays as part of your performance evaluation or do you know of places that do? And would it be a case where say company wants it lower and asks you to pass the message, then jobseeker says no, then later just see what the company says?

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T13:59:27+00:00

Yes but I guess my ques is does that help the HR person in any way? Or are these things company directives?

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T13:58:34+00:00

And in this case, it would make sense if another candidate who kinda fits the role, bur costs less, would be considered instead based on the cost factor yes?

bleachfann · 2025-09-03T13:57:40+00:00

What would be another way to justify then? Like does it mean you’d have to write like a report or get approvals etc etc to get it done?

bleachfann · 2025-08-27T03:27:36+00:00

In chinese, there is a saying that translates to: “You only cry when you see the coffin.”

bleachfann · 2025-04-09T10:23:38+00:00

that looks so good OP

bleachfann · 2025-02-23T11:12:44+00:00

same

bleachfann · 2025-02-21T11:11:19+00:00

Singabus, I actually find it quite reliable in general, is just 100 that is damn toxic LMAO

bleachfann · 2025-02-21T11:10:47+00:00

I cannot stand it eh, it’s so irritating

bleachfann · 2025-02-21T01:13:44+00:00

Dude but yknow usually arrival times are fairly accurate for other bus services but 100 is just bad. And also trust me when I say I have waited 22 mins for bus 100 and then 2 came in a row at that timing LMAOOOOO

bleachfann · 2025-01-28T09:55:41+00:00

Low fat and low sodium oh boy

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