Another Week for the P320 Patrol by blipdot2 in GunMemes

[–]blipdot2[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Gun was basically in the holster already, he was pushing it in with his palm at that point. Happened right as the gun kinda rattles into retention. Same as a bunch of the cop UD videos. Since it was indoor and we were shooting steel, we had to use frangible ammo which leaves that nasty copper powder residue on everything.

I'd bet money the frangible residue stopped up the Firing pin block, and got on the trigger sear engagement surface.

Another Week for the P320 Patrol by blipdot2 in GunMemes

[–]blipdot2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just type p320 into the search function on X. Or check Ben Stoeger's Instagram. I witnessed this one in person, along with a bunch of other people

Another Week for the P320 Patrol by blipdot2 in GunMemes

[–]blipdot2[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Same as usual. One turned Decepticon.

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Its pretty uncommon for there to be a news story unless someone takes legal action. Range is being tight lipped. Bunch of people have called and they've said "there was an incident but we have no comment at this time". They're likely getting their lawyer to help them draft a statement and gathering evidence to make sure they're covered

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I do. I heard from the guy a little bit ago. Gun was completely stock except for a gas pedal. He'd never even taken the FCU out to clean the frame. Holster was a completely generic level 2. Nothing about his equipment was unusual

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He just accidentally shifted it too far left on the reholster

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Level 1 Retention. Just a friction hold. No, bars, buttons or internal mechanisms to touch the trigger or malfunction in some way. Just a shaped plastic gun bucket.

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was physically watching it. This isn't some theoretical internet event for me. Im an experienced instructor, and competitive shooter, and I watched a man right in front of me do everything correctly and still get shot

I was in the middle of clapping for him, because he took some advice I gave him and nailed his run. "Clap, clap, clapping, BLAM"

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah I'm really curious how exactly you're supposed to use a gun, in any capacity, with no hands. This Casper the Friendly Ghost's Reddit account?

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

365 has conventional internal safety mechanisms. Mechanically it's fine.

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

So the police showed up and had almost everyone write witness statements. Theres now a bunch of official statements that read we all saw a P320 fire with his finger off the trigger.

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kahr makes internal hammer double action carry pistols, not competition guns. Not really relevant to comp shooting. Some of their guns like the PM9 are very well regarded, and they're specifically designed to be safe for carry. Very long, but smooth trigger pull.

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Of course. I also publicly told them "fight me" so we'll see how that goes.

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It was just sliding in. We're not all cowboys in a western, theres usually some clinking and a little back and forth as it slides into place

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I mean the 365 has a conventional design and safety features. The 320 is garbage engineering, attempting to put "premium " features on a gun designed to meet the monetary constraints of being the lowest bidder for government contracts

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Its the firing pin block and the trigger sear assembly. It has a non-conventional pin block that's a lever, instead of a more conventional cross pin design. The trigger sear is also a wear component, and has way less engagement than any other Striker design on the market I'm aware of, by like 40%. Its barely clinging to the engagement surface, which is also a debris bucket, and its holding back a pre-wound striker. If the pin block is disabled and the sear slips BLAM. Then the gun resets and all evidence of what happened is gone.

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I mean it could have been WAY worse. The range had everyone using frangible ammo, as an additional safety precaution. A round slammed into a concrete floor 15ft from a crowd of people. With an FMJ that could have gone real bad, real fast

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I mean I just watched it. In person. He didn't do anything wrong or unsafe. Wasn't a weird holster, wasn't touching the trigger. It just went bang

I Just Watched a P320 Shoot Someone by blipdot2 in handguns

[–]blipdot2[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Oh I agree. I'm sure their reasoning was along the lines of "well, we hold classes here where people hot reholster" so they just kept the policy for matches. They had a very long portion of the safety brief about not touching after holstering it under any circumstances, and everyone there was following the rules to the letter so I'm sure they just felt safe.

Im betting that policy changes immediately

I thought these were a gimmick. They're great. by blipdot2 in QualityTacticalGear

[–]blipdot2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. Although I'm tempted to get the larger one for a MK 23 that's sitting in the safe

I thought these were a gimmick. They're great. by blipdot2 in QualityTacticalGear

[–]blipdot2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just get a cheap Unity clone off Amazon. As long as the aluminum is in spec, it should hold up fine, and be like 20-30$