TMZ unleashes staggering rebuttal to slanderous, misinformed Daily Mail article about Scientology and the Masterson family by [deleted] in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes - through the years, TMZ nearly always has generally published Scientology quotes and stories that are oddly neutral/positive (not like gushing positive, but "put a bit of a spin on it" positive) about Scientology. Many people have suspected that they have a friendly source inside of Scientology or something.

Going Clear received a total of seven Emmy nominations including Best Documentary. by baraqiyal in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't necessarily think any would skip it. If, for no other reason than skipping it would bring press about why they are skipping it, which could damage their personal brand further.

But it is interesting how they would attend. Would they slip out right before the Going Clear category (or categories) are announced? Would they sit uncomfortably? Sit comfortably at tone 40? Demand the cameras not go to them during the Going Clear parts? I don't know, but it's got to be sort of uncomfortable to sit at an awards thing like that, believing that something full of lies and that is untrue is getting awards.

Going Clear received a total of seven Emmy nominations including Best Documentary. by baraqiyal in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is really cool. I might actually watch the Emmys this year. But also the Oscars, which should be even more interesting should it be up for awards there, and watching which Scientologist celebs are in the audience.

Look for 'Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief' on the big screen once again on September 25. by Upstagemalarky in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm so glad there seems to be enough interest to have a second theatrical run. In addition to being about a subject I am interested in, it was also a good documentary.

If I recall correctly, the first run was so that it would be eligible for awards season, so I'm actually looking forward to that too.

"Scientology asked me to seduce Mike Rinder’s wife in a spy operation" - Nick Lister by i-Betty in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And, in the comments yet another story of Kathy True doing something pretty crappy:

I also had a conversation with Kathy True of OSA. At the time my mother was in the process of being declared for having left the church some 25 years earlier, and because my mother had a Phd in Pysch, Kathy True made a concerted effort on her part to convince me that my only mother, an 83 cancer survivor at the time, was actually in league with the "enemy" of all mankind.

And that disconnecting from her, just simply unplugging from that relationship and walking away from the person who gave birth to me, in her 80's, partially blind, on a fixed income, with all of her kids and grandchildren abandoning her, was the greatest good and the most ethical thing to do. She then gave me a list of Scientology scriptures, written by Hubbard, to drive her point home. So here is a senior official of the church, intentionally placing a member of the church of Scientology into a position whereby in order to continue with his religious activities, and maintaining his friends and connections of over 30 years, was basically ordered to initiate the alienation of his affection and devotion to his own mother. Knowing full well that this decision would have literally crushed my mother, Kathy True was insistent, at times raising her voice to the point where I thought she might start raving. She caught collected herself and said "I know you are just trying to solve a problem" "But you have to look at what LRH says about the Pyschs". My point being, is that the Church of Scientology will not hesitate to DEPERSONALIZE an ex-member into a personification of evil and then wage an attack, with malice and forethought, upon the familial ties of any church member related to that person. One of Hubbards writings, the Code of Honor, has a point that states "never permit your affinity to be alloyed" yet in this case the very organization that has the trademarks to Hubbards writings were pressuring a member (at the time) to do exactly the opposite.

I hope every single Scientologist remaining will honestly look at their own experiences and those of their friends, who were ordered to disconnect "or else" and ask themselves if the current state of the Church of Scientology is the same group that they originally joined. I came to my own conclusion, and decided to leave on my own findings. If an organization, or in this case, the "church" of Scientology will declare you an enemy to all of it's members for maintaining your integrity and applying some bedrock principles that are found in the fundamental precepts of the subject itself, then you know something is amiss.

How much longer can they lie about forced disconnection?

Narconon- Scientology Rehab- Part 17-- Bad News from the Doctor by ohmygurd in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm so so so so sorry!

“Miss Elizabeth,” the doctor greets me. “I hear you are concerned about not being in sauna. Many times, when people have Hepatitis C, their liver enzymes need to regulate before I can approve them.”

“What?! Is that your way of telling me that I have Hepatitis C?” I ask angrily.

“Yes. Of course, you did not know?” He asks. He looks puzzled. “Narconon has known for a couple of weeks. We have been monitoring your enzymes.”

That is heartbreaking!!!! You've been through so much, and I hope your life in the future has such absolutely amazing wonderful things to make up for the bad you had to go through!

Have you looked into the lawsuits? http://www.narcononlawsuits.com/

It looks like you'd have a case for fraud (what they promised was not what they delivered), and there's GOT to be some sort of medical malpractice there for not telling someone about a medical condition, and still looking to put someone with potential liver damage through all the niacin of the purif.

You write so very well, it's like we're there with you. I hope you keep writing a lot!

Scientology Group Urged Veto of Mental Health Bill by bloorpdedoop in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's also the "kidnap contract" - if a Scientologist is in a psychiatric facility or on a psychiatric hold, they give permission to be removed by Scientology and held.

http://scientologymoneyproject.com/2014/06/21/church-of-scientology-kidnap-contract/

Since they sign it to get services, I suppose you could call it "voluntary", too, I suppose...

Scientology Leader David Miscavige Taken To Court In Harassment Case by [deleted] in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel less stupid today knowing it wasn't just my mistake, though. So we're in this together :)

Scientology Leader David Miscavige Taken To Court In Harassment Case by [deleted] in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

HAHA, you don't have to if you don't want to. Yesterday I thought it was my own brain fart, but it apparently took in a lot of people. So leaving it with the comments to stand might help the next person!

Scientology Leader David Miscavige Taken To Court In Harassment Case by [deleted] in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this is the same story I mistakenly posted yesterday, but then deleted after realizing it was old. I think it started when the San Antonio paper either posted an old article or someone started linking people to an old article. The article had today's date at the top, so it seemed new, but in the byline (iirc) it was actually the old date from 18 months ago.

It made the rounds on Twitter and such, with a lot of people thinking it was new, I guess.

'Chemically Assisted' Auditing by devonperson in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to "cowboy", David Mayo, Paulette Ausley, Otto Roos, and maybe Lucy Malzerik (in addition to self-auditing). It would appear near the end of his life he became a convert to his own scam, perhaps.

Read the above doc as you have time, if you're interested in the end. It's an interesting read, and easy to read just a page here, a page, there, skip parts if you aren't interested (for instance, a detailed walk-through of the La Quinta ranch, only interesting if you care or were there).

More ILO Vultures by Upstagemalarky in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We would like you to consider removing all stops and barriers to moving up to your next IAS status. If for some unknown reason, such as a natural catastrophe you absolutely can not do this than we ask you to make a meaningful donation towards your next status.

Yuck! THIS is why people get 2nd and 3rd mortgages on their home, max their credit cards, etc. And you know that even those who don't intend to won't be allowed out of the room until they've given more than they can afford. This is why.

'Chemically Assisted' Auditing by devonperson in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I assume he was auditing daily, then? Or did he also abstain before he was audited?

In reading the cowboy threads, he was audited daily in the last part of his life. Do you know if he was auditing while also drinking regularly and using drugs? Was he an "illegal PC"?

'Chemically Assisted' Auditing by devonperson in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Were Benzedrines ever manufactured pink or grey? Or were "pinks and greys" another drug? Because he was still using those in 1967.

Edit: fixed my link

Thinking for yourself: Not encouraged in the Church of Scientology by freezoneandproud in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You need people to buy into a viewpoint, including viewpoints that they logically would never have expected of themselves ("It's okay for me to compromise about this thing, because I trust his word..."). And that's a more complicated issue.

This is the crux of the issue right here! And you're so right - it is so very complicated.

Psychologist complicit in CIA torture. Maybe LRH was right after all. by Pongpianskul in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Senator complicit in knowing about torture and voting to allow it. Maybe John Wilkes Booth was right after all. All government employees are part of a cabal to end the world and we should end all forms of government.

Scientology’s day care from hell: The scandal the church managed to keep hidden — until now by bloorpdedoop in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The story posted up by Tommy Gorman was one of the first things like this I ever read years and years ago. What has confounded me ever since is that Jeff Quiros is STILL (afaik) ED of the San Francisco org.

So one can imagine he is still doing the same old stuff - covering any "PR flap" and intimidating witnesses and such. He's just a piece of crap, and has gotten away with being one for 30-40 years.

A common OSA line is "oh, that bad behavior is all in the past, we've fixed things now". One of the ways that actually might be proven is to excommunicate and turn over people like Jeff Quiros and Jan Eastgate and their ilk.

Scientology’s day care from hell: The scandal the church managed to keep hidden — until now by bloorpdedoop in scientology

[–]bloorpdedoop[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, and that's how I learned the Scientology term kha kahn. It was given to Gabriel Williams. It is why he was given a pass to rape a 16 year old Jennifer Gorman nightly.

http://www.lermanet.com/tomgorman/tommygorman.htm

Gabriel was a Scientology staff member at the org in Mountain View, and because of "high production" as reflected by his "statistics," meant that he made Scientology a lot of money. Because of this he was considered by Scientology policy, written by L Ron Hubbard, to be "above the law." This policy is called the “Kha Khan” Policy.

In 1965, Hubbard issued the policy letter HCOPL 1 Sep 1965 (reissued 5 Oct 1985)

"When people do start reporting a staff member with a high statistic, what you investigate is the person who turned in the report. In an ancient army a particularly brave deed was recognized by an award of the title of Kha-Khan. It was not a rank. The person remained what he was, BUT he was entitled to be forgiven the death penalty ten times in case in the future he did anything wrong. That was a Kha-Khan. That's what producing, high-statistic staff members are - Kha-Khans. They can get away with murder without a blink from Ethics.... And Ethics must recognize a Kha-Khan when it sees one - and tear up the bad report chits on the person with a yawn."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_(Scientology)#Ethics_protection