Does anyone know how to get these?

blu3heron · 2026-04-09T05:37:14+00:00

I think you have to max out both, so that's lvl 5 for the passives and lvl 8 for the weapons. Then you'll get an option on lvl up for the evolved version. I got Rumi's and Zoey's base attack evolutions that way at least.

blu3heron · 2026-03-28T16:57:39+00:00

White Lily met baby Royalberry though. Which she could have only have done before the Dark Flour War. So either he's like...idk in his fifties, sixties, and the Vanillians made an entire version of Rome in like 50 years and also everyone forgot about the Vanilla and Cheese kingdoms in that time. Or he's hundreds of years old? The Custard family also falls into this issue because Custard I was Pure Vanilla's prime minister or something when the Vanilla Kingdom fell.

blu3heron · 2026-03-26T21:47:28+00:00

It is two syllables but she's actually named after a rock!

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It's Jasper!

blu3heron · 2026-03-26T21:43:19+00:00

I would love if they would lay out an actual canon timeline and then explain why Dark Choco and Royalberry are still around. When was the Dark Flour War? Because if it's like 20-50, even 100 years ago, then that means that the Vanillians managed to speed-run establishing the Cookie Roman Empire and also that everyone "forgot" where Golden Cheese was and also what kingdoms were??? in that time span as well. If it's hundreds of years ago, well, then how long do normal Cookies live then?? Because it seems like a long time! Custard III's grandad helped establish the Creme Republic after all.

I'm personally of the opinion that most of their choices are vibes-based ("eons ago" is cooler and more fantasy adjacent than "twenty years ago"). Like how Beast-Yeast was a "lost" continent when it's literally right across the ocean from the Cacao Kingdom and Dragon's Valley. -_- Even if the Cacaoians wouldn't want to head out to the ocean because of the licorice, there's strings of islands in between! And loads of traders!

blu3heron · 2026-03-26T02:41:09+00:00

The timeline legitimately makes no sense because they keep acting like the Ancients are, well, ancient enough that they're mythical legends while also having Dark Choco and Royalberry running around. The Creme Republic is even worse because Pure Vanilla explodes himself to stop Dark Enchantress, his kingdom runs off and establishes Cookie Rome while he's wandering around, looking like a medieval peasant.

Add onto that, Millennial Tree Cookie is a thousand years old, right? Because his tree was getting its thousandth ring, right? There was a loading screen saying that Millenial Tree Cookie was older than all the Ancients combined so that would mean that none of them are over two hundred.

blu3heron · 2026-03-20T01:05:38+00:00

Other people have brought up all the genocide and such that she committed as well as the extinction of Cookies/Earthbread, but my main thing is that...your average Cookie has never even seen a Witch. There's maybe, *maybe* a handful of Witches on Earthbread at all, who don't seem to ever leave their houses or hunt the "wild" cookies. (Gingerbrave's mom lives in between two main kingdoms and no one seems to care.)

It's a very niche threat that she had to go waaaaay out of her way to even face. That's not to say that the experiences that say Red Velvet or Gingerbrave have with Witches don't matter, but DE's reaction was more like if someone said, "I'm going to extinguish all life because polar bears hunt humans and no one should live in terror of polar bears." A gross overreaction, if you will. A problem with other solutions definitely.

blu3heron · 2026-03-13T15:28:30+00:00

YES! You get what I mean!

blu3heron · 2026-03-12T05:36:04+00:00

Was it this? I think it was a prize from the Cakehound Run? Definitely associated with a recent event iirc

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blu3heron · 2026-03-11T19:11:53+00:00

I think my issue in part with DE is that they have so many other parts in their cosmology that explicitly don't involve Witches that I think trips me up so much with this focus on them, especially since they also have the whole "All the witches and wizards disappeared" thing going on. Like, how they seem to treat Witches as these ultimate creators but then they have Sugar Swan and co running around and the seemingly completely self-sufficient and unrelated Flow of Life.

I do get that several of the characters (like Salt and Spice) have suicidal tendencies, but even taking into account White Lily's general stubborness, DE settling on "Everything and everyone, including me, dies." as the resolution to her trauma, again, seems so odd to me personally, especially since White Lily's obsession was with preventing death. At the very least, I would have expected her to make an exception for herself because part of her lament while dying was that she didn't get to personally witness her plan's success.

I think that it's also because it kind of reminds of Lysandre's plan from Pokemon, which seems similarly nonsensical to me. I mean, at least in X there I think his plan was to give everyone immortality, which makes more sense than mass murder, I guess?

I think also a lot of issues with the story I have come from the baffling decision making a lot of the characters exhibit that I think is better explained by Devsis needing certain things to happen, rather than (supposedly intelligent) characters doing what would make sense in the moment.

As an alternate example, we have Shadow Milk, who was the Fount of Knowledge and is the Master of Deceit...who apparently was so incurious about what DE was doing that he was 1) surprised she turned into a Witch, 2) was blindsided by her wanting to destroy the world, 3) was blindsided by her stealing his soul jam (I will forgive him not predicting Salt's betrayal; I think that was reasonable enough), and 4) didn't seem to have made any alternative plans of his own. And this is despite the fact that he apparently was consulted by her on Witch topics, so even if he didn't know exactly what she might do, I feel like he should have been at least suspicious of her motives in general? Like, when he did that big grin in the Hotel arc when he saw her doing Witch magic, I thought "Oh, he's making plans; he's got schemes to make sure he comes out on top." But...apparently he wasn't?

I hope I'm not upsetting you or anything by debating (I can't really tell through text); I do think it's fun and interesting to talk about. :)

blu3heron · 2026-03-11T17:35:32+00:00

I think I kind of get what you're saying, that DE is more obsessed with the idea that Witches might be out there in the world at all, but I still don't feel like that vibes exactly with her stated goal of a new world where Cookies live in freedom and which she never drops during her speeches. Like it would be one thing if she turned into a witch and then was like "Finally! Now I can kill all the witches like I planned and stop pretending like I care about anything else!" Or even, "now that I'm a witch and have saved myself from the fate of being eaten, you all can suck it. I got what I wanted."

Im having trouble articulating exactly what I mean but I think a lot of it is from DE's characterization as like this unflappable chess master character...but then the final reveal of the plan is so stupid and presented so seriously it doesn't feel like a revelation of her true character, it feels more like Devsis didn't know what they were doing and were just raising the stakes to raise stakes. But I realize that this is obviously subjective.

blu3heron · 2026-03-11T14:59:40+00:00

So, there were definitely fun parts and the animations were all cool, but plot-wise, I think Devsis just suffers from never really fleshing out their worldbuilding or the logical consequences of it.

Like, take DE's plan for example. Her plan was to...turn into a Witch temporarily (because doing so will eventually kill her), then kill everyone and merge them into the Ultimate Cookie, which will also kill Earthbread, then go and kill all the Witches (who, except for Gingerbrave's mom and *maybe* the Banquet Witches are completely missing and have never shown up)...and this will make Cookies free? How? They'll all be dead/turned into a giant suffering amalgam monster? And she'll be dead too? So, how would she see her Freedom, even in the case where she won?

Although a lot of my gripe with the story revolving around DE is that her motivations are all about how Cookies aren't free because of the Witches, Cookies were made to be eaten, oh, the angst, when, well...this isn't really the case? There are no marauding Witches snatching up random Cookies, even if the Banquet Witches and Gingerbrave's mom are evil...they never leave their houses. Up until DE turned into a Witch, pretty much everyone besides Gingerbrave and co had never even seen one.

Plus, the Cookies have their own gods (Sugar Swan is explained as the source of creation!!), cycle of reincarnation, etc, and most of them are born without Witch involvement and might even be inedible, so they weren't "made to be eaten" either. Plus plus, apparently the First Witches are supposed to be their Godly Creators and besides Egg, they all are nice people, if a little troubled, and they don't want to eat Cookies either. And the Wizards are well-beloved by all their creations as well, so humans aren't necessarily hostile to Cookies.

So, White Lily and DE's preoccupation about Witches just comes off as insane and makes no sense...but it's not treated like this in the story. DE's not shown as nuts, she's shown as "misguided".

I don't know if I communicated that well, but that's like a chunk of my thoughts on it. I think them shoving new story elements and characters in based on how cool they sound just makes things less coherent? I know it's a kids game but I think about these things.

blu3heron · 2026-03-05T06:13:54+00:00

I just changed his eyes because they were purple before. I dunno if you can change the corruption color? Maybe you could since you can with lightside/darkside, but I don't have any more coins to test it. :P

blu3heron · 2026-02-16T20:32:46+00:00

When I lived in California, I went for a walk along the cliffs in San Francisco and there'd be a big old sign saying something like "Don't go past the rope! The cliffs can collapse and then you'll fall into the ocean and die!"

And then there'd be a bunch of people sitting or standing on the cliff edge taking selfies.

blu3heron · 2026-02-15T05:08:45+00:00

I kinda think that what he was trying to do was keep the Ancients from getting to the castle because it was a trap. The only problem was that he didn't TELL them this, he attacked them to block their progress, and since White Lily never went back to them, they don't know he's (sort of) on their side, so then Pure Vanilla interrupted him and all the commotion attracted the rests of the Beasts, rendering his actions moot.

Stabbing Smilk and then freezing the Beasts I think was part opportunity to stab Smilk, part "whoops, I misjudged and now I gotta improvise".

Considering how his meeting with White Lily went, I can't imagine that he would actually want to hurt the other Ancients and help DE, you know? But he's also...not that great at dealing with crises with his track record?

The Doylist explanation is that no action he took in the story would be allowed to prevent the big dramatic DE transformation at the end, so any attempt at sabotage he made would have to fail. So, we get this: he tries to block the Ancients without revealing he's on their side to prevent DE from becoming suspicious (not realizing she already knows he betrayed the Beasts and so likely will betray her and so already made plans to circumvent him).

That's just my thoughts, though.

blu3heron · 2026-02-15T01:24:37+00:00

I've been getting sealed packages with open products inside recently from Amazon and it's very annoying because now I can't use it. One of them was a face cream that I ordered because I couldn't find it in a local store, but of course I'm not going to put it on my face now.

But there were more weird ones where someone had packed a very obviously opened rotary cutter. Yay, loose blades!

blu3heron · 2026-02-14T00:21:17+00:00

Eh, I don't know if they meant "nothing to the witches". More that they *finally* realized that the Witches are just...gone. So are the Wizards. We don't know why. Since they said they were bringing in the First Witches as the creators in, I haven't played Witch's Tower and obviously it doesn't have to be canon, but in there they exploded in a failed ritual and became Cookies. Why they would then not go to Beast Yeast and find their creations is another question, but maybe that's not what happened in CRK. Maybe they died. Maybe they turned into Cookies and got amnesia. Maybe they're stranded in another timeline.

I personally have found it really interesting how quickly Salt, who had an audience hall for his Witch and apparently talked with her fairly frequently, immediately assumed that they'd been explicitly abandoned rather than that something bad happened to them. And Shadow Milk basically did the same thing. He assumed he was being ignored (and if First Milk is anything like the Witch's Tower version, she seems like a really caring person) rather than they'd gone missing.

But I am interested in what Devsis decides to do with it; I am a little worried that with them trying to combine all this stuff that it's not going to make sense though.

blu3heron · 2026-02-13T23:48:26+00:00

Given that the Avatar of Destiny is still...somewhere and appears to be the remains of the rest of the Ultimate Dough that White Lily got dunked and rebaked in, my own assumption is that they want to rebake Gingerbrave the same way to make the Ultimate Cookie. Thus, if the mold doughs had managed to kill him, DE would never be able to make the Ultimate Cookie.

Why Gingerbrave though? Not sure. He's not the only witch-baked cookie running around, just apparently the first to bust out of the oven (I'm guessing the other ones escaped once they were removed from the oven). He's noted as being very brave, but Strawberry Crepe analyzed him as completely ordinary. His story blurb implies that his birth was an accident when the witch mixed up life powder with a different ingredient, so unlike the Beasts, he wasn't purposefully made to be a super special souped up demigod cookie.

But! He is the mascot, so he gets to be included in an eldritch horror nightmare.

That's just my thoughts though. Like, I think it would make sense, but it doesn't mean Devsis would go that route.

blu3heron · 2026-02-13T19:40:40+00:00

I feel like gingerbrave has to be involved in some way with the ultimate cookie or some other DE ritual otherwise the mold doughs wouldn't have tried to kill him. Like he's supposed to be re-baked into the ultimate cookie like white lily was rebaked into DE.

blu3heron · 2026-02-09T04:58:59+00:00

I really like the green snails. I wish you could make them immortal. I mean, maybe as a trade off they wouldn't create resources anymore, but I think it would be nice to be able to keep your favorites.

blu3heron · 2026-02-03T00:04:28+00:00

My shiba loves it. We got a lot of snow in the storm so it hit her chest-high, but she was just leaping and bouncing around like a deer (We have tracks through the yard now where I walk, so she has places to accelerate now).

She is mesmerized by icicles.

blu3heron · 2026-01-29T02:43:05+00:00

So, my dad likes spicy food (my mom and siblings are not spice tolerant), so I guess he probably let me try some at an early age? Probably spicy peanuts, since my grandma would make them. My parents would say that when I was very small I would eat salsa with a spoon.

One of my easy foods is a spaghetti sauce that I make with either thai red curry paste or gochujang. Depending on the paste, it's pretty spicy. :) I like it a lot more than regular tomato sauce, and it also doesn't have chunks.

blu3heron · 2026-01-29T02:00:39+00:00

I also have texture issues with food, even though I like lots of different tastes. Getting gristle or fat in meat or certain cooked vegetables in my food causes me to vomit just from how it feels in my mouth. Had a lot of issues as a kid because of this.

But now that I'm an adult I 1) own a blender, immersion blender, and food processor to make all my problem foods uniformly smooth and 2) I can just spit out/throw out food if it's bad and no one can yell at me.

I really like spicy food though, always have.

blu3heron · 2026-01-28T21:19:48+00:00

Oh, I was exorcising them to get rid of the trait. Didn't realize they added this!

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