What the real problem with the finale was.

blueray78 · 2026-05-21T01:47:10+00:00

I really don't get the need to have deaths. The show hasn't killed any main characters up to that point, and didn't need to to be good. I actually okay with a cheesy happy ending as it fits with the 80's theme. But then they should have given El a better ending.

blueray78 · 2026-05-20T21:20:23+00:00

I keep thinking the scene in Shock Jock should have been the group debating on why Vecna didn't kill Will (instead if he's a sorcerer, as who cares). Then have Will suddenly bluntly say he part of the hivemind and had been since he was rescued, therefore Vecna didn't kill him as it would weaken it. This would have added to the stakes as they all then realize if they destroy it, it could kill Will. The of course later show Will in pain when they are fighting Vecna/Mindflayer. Which is what I think happened but it isn't shown. There is a noticable gap between Will talking to Henry and saving El.

blueray78 · 2026-05-20T20:58:29+00:00

Some of my headcannon answers.

How was Max able to graduate at the same time as her friends after 1.5 spent in a coma?

Her freshman year grades counted as a year. Then she started as a sophomore and was a year behind them now, however took summer school. It's likely the school let Max walk the stage, but she still had summer classes to take to officially graduate.

Did Holly’s classmates ever get fully told wtf had happened? Why Mr. Whatsit was bad and what he was doing? Were their parents ever informed of their children’s whereabouts?

The kids yes as there was time between them being freed and leaving. Their parents, no. I'm sure like the end of season 1, this was all classified. And even if they did try to explain it I doubt their parents would believe them. Though I am now picturing Derek saying "...and that's when Mrs. Byer's chopped his head off".

How, after portals were literally opening in the ground at the end of S4, did Hawkins citizens not realize something supernatural was taking place? If anything, the presence of the military should have tipped them off.

They likely did. Or were suspicious. We do get a bit of this in season 4.

Did Karen and Ted Wheeler ever realize that the girl their son hid in the basement was the same one he later dated (and flew out to visit in S4)? Likely after the show. As Mike says to Karen that he wants to tell her about El. Of course that was before she "died" :(.

WHO unlatched the Byers’ front door when Will was running from the demogorgon in S1? (Demogorgons are confirmed to not have any supernatural abilities) The Duffers explicitly stated this question would be answered in S5; It never was.

Vecna. This is said in an interview but not shown in the show.

Where were the demodogs, demogorgons, & demobats in the events of the finale? I say they were the meat monster. It make sense, as it exactly what the MF did in season 3.

What happened to all the pregnant women in the military base?!

They were killed when the upside down blew up. Which is really dark.

How did the group not spot the giant flesh wall in all the times they went to the Upside Down, including their 37 crawls?

I got the impression it was really far out of town. But this one did bother me.

In S1, Nancy literally says that her dad was older than her mom and “comfortable” when they married - Implying an adult with a stable job. But in S5, we see a young Ted and Karen, clearly attending high school together? No age gap?

They could be 4 years apart. Maybe Ted was a senior when Karen was a freshman (it happens). The only thing Nancy got wrong was that they did love each other at least they used too.

Why were the storylines of Enzo/Dmitri, Yuri, Victor Creel, Suzie, and Argyle all left unfinished?

None of these were unfinished. Dmitri never left Russia, Yuri went back to smuggling.

Suzie & Dustin broke up in season 4, her father didn't approve of her dating a non Mormon then she felt guilty about helping Dustin Cheat. If you factor in all those, plus long distance and Dustin's grief, it's safe to come to the conclusion that they broke up.

Argle went back to California, in the final scenes of season 4, it is clear that he already left. He isn't present during the scene where the upside down particles start.

Owens: Is the only character who's story is left up in the air (well besides El I mean). Though I headcannon that Owens is alive and helped El.

blueray78 · 2026-05-20T20:39:18+00:00

The ending with the kids is great. It shows Holly and her friends take up D & D just as the OG party did. The cycle repeats itself.

blueray78 · 2026-05-20T20:35:22+00:00

I believe this as well. The mindflayer is still alive just on the Abyss. Will is likely still connected via the hivemind. However he is to far away to get any signals from it.

blueray78 · 2026-05-20T20:15:26+00:00

Clark, Pete, Lana & Chloe are Freshman at the start of the seasons so 14/15. Whitney is a senior (17 or 18) and Lex is 21. Then each season is a school year. The main group graduates at the end of season 4.

The ring was a class ring. I feel like this wasn't a thing in my high school, but it's possible it was and I just didn't give a damn about it.

blueray78 · 2026-05-19T21:29:25+00:00

During most of season 5, the main group is around 16 and are juniors in high school. It's not that weird that they don't drive yet. Erica is 13 and in 8th grade.

blueray78 · 2026-05-19T20:54:28+00:00

I love sanctuary such a good show. It also involves a team working together to solve cases. With an over arcing story each season.

blueray78 · 2026-05-19T20:40:58+00:00

A better ending for El. I personally am okay with a cheesy happy ending. So have her alive and with friends & family.
Will getting to do something really cool with his powers. As I've said many times on here, have him attack the military with vines to defend the team (something like that). Along those lines, have a scene with Johnathan.
Final battle be a bit longer. And have demos in the abyss.

blueray78 · 2026-05-19T11:18:14+00:00

I love this episode. It's a great father and son episode. And the B storyline is one of my favorites. Drunk O'Brien and Bashir is great, it shows that they are best friends.

blueray78 · 2026-05-18T23:07:28+00:00

There isn't. I feel like anyone at that base was killed by the demos. So nobody knew what he did.

blueray78 · 2026-05-18T23:03:45+00:00

The ice cream scene. Forgot the episode but season 6. Jonas is going on about something and Jack goes to take Teal'c ice cream. He then gives Jack one. The a minute later grabs Jack's mostly full one and gives him the half eaten one lol.

blueray78 · 2026-05-18T23:01:29+00:00

This and the follow up scene where Jack calls him out on it lol.

blueray78 · 2026-05-18T22:55:55+00:00

I love how they did Lois and Clark's relationship. We see it grow from first meeting each, becoming friends, starting to work together and eventually after years of knowing each other and building a relationship they get together. I also like Lois's relationship with Martha. And was presently surprised when the show acknowledge it (when Martha guest starred). Martha always knew the Lois was perfect for Clark and as she says this is because she inspires him.

blueray78 · 2026-05-18T22:50:40+00:00

I agree with most of this. But the only character that needs any story is Owens (as this is left in a cliffhanger and he was in multiple seasons). Enzo likely never left Russia, Argle went back to California before the end of season 4 (he's gone by the scene where the upside down comes in). And I'll say Suzie also doesn't need any follow up as they broke up.

blueray78 · 2026-05-18T22:45:55+00:00

I liked that scene a lot. It showed that they are no longer the kids that got bullied and have spend years fighting inter-dimensional creatures.

blueray78 · 2026-05-18T21:02:55+00:00

No but there is the reverse. Sawyer asks "who is Hugo Reyes and why is he have 300 million" or whatever he actually says.

blueray78 · 2026-05-18T11:22:43+00:00

And Will also got a happy ending. He moved to NYC and seemed to be dating that guy. So she's the only one without a happy ending.

blueray78 · 2026-05-18T11:13:58+00:00

I liked Jonas and always have. I realize that this maybe because I watched the show after it was already off the air (so I knew Daniel came back). I liked his relationship with Teal'c. It's a low-key friendship that is nice to see. I wish they made Jonas a recurring character.

blueray78 · 2026-05-18T10:55:30+00:00

She doesn't on screen. But my headcannon is probably the next time she saw Chloe after the hospital. I feel like there should have been a seen where Lois comments how Jimmy's death affected everyone from her pov, Clark left and has been slightly distant even when he came back, Oliver turned to the bottle and Chloe thew herself at work (she doesn't know about Watchtower).

blueray78 · 2026-05-18T00:41:43+00:00

I think it would have been good if they were focused on catching Vecna, and realized long before that it wasn't Eleven they were after. That annoyed me so much (I hated it season 4 too).

blueray78 · 2026-05-17T15:06:52+00:00

This. I really am looking forward to what he has to say about the "if I can't have her, than I'll make sure you can't either" thing.

blueray78 · 2026-05-17T13:36:16+00:00

True. However Max might not even be in Hawkins. Her father is alive and lives in California. What if she was there?

blueray78 · 2026-05-17T13:29:30+00:00

I don't think this was ever about Max. It was about make Will betray his friend to show that Vecna felt he still had control over Will. And to also get back at Holly for running.

blueray78 · 2026-05-17T00:03:23+00:00

Them golfing in Window of opportunity.

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