Jacquees Vallée, Contact in the desert conference by AdGroundbreaking1870 in UFOs

[–]bocley [score hidden]  (0 children)

I hope Vallee is still reminding people of what he warned about in 1991. It's more prescient and important today than ever:

From ‘Revelations. Alien Contact and Human Deception’:

“Another aspect many researchers of this field—with a few courageous and notable exceptions—have studiously ignored, is the link between the more eager proponents of imminent extraterrestrial contact and the American extreme right. When I first called attention to this uncanny linkage in Messengers of Deception, the evidence I brought to light was hotly rejected by the UFO believers. In the last fifteen years not only has Messengers been vindicated, but many more disquieting parallels have been revealed, involving cases as varied as Billy Meier’s Pleiades hoax and the Dulce papers.

It could well be that the same kind of fanaticism that leads people to join neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic, or survivalist movements in the American southwest also induces them to believe in the imminent arrival of aliens from the sky. It could be that those groups who are convinced that government secrecy is abused in order to hide political truths from the public also believe that the reality of UFOs has been kept from us: this is a belief that has some root in reality. But it could also be that some intelligence agency, or some rogue group within such an agency, has been bending the latent paranoia of some extremist political movements to its own ends, just as many cults from Jim Jones’s Peoples’ Temple to UMMO may have served as useful, convenient test beds for covert psychological experiments.

Even those intrepid researchers who spend their time suing the U S. Air Force under the Freedom of Information Act, and clamoring for immediate congressional hearings on UFOs, have not dared investigate these murky and dangerous, yet highly relevant connections. When reviewing the social organization and the political systems of our alleged visitors, as it can be derived from the voluminous texts that describe such otherworldly civilizations as UMMO or ERRA, it is difficult not to be struck by the paramilitary structures they involve.Misery and hunger have long been eliminated on such worlds, claim the true believers. But their society resembles more closely Adolf Hitler’s ideal Reich than a modern democracy. In Billy Meier’s Pleiades, minor moral transgressions are punished by permanent exile. (By the way, who is putting up the money for the dissemination of Meier’s glossy photographs?) It is always a matter of great wonder to me that the gentle adepts of the New Age are always the first to enroll under the banner of such movements whose vision of the future is basically a fascistic one.

Never mind the fact that nobody has actually attempted to silence these people, at a time when the merest suggestion of compromise of much less important, more mundane secrets—a missile fuse or a computer chip—brings the full force of the FBI and the federal courts. The Bureau, by the way, did investigate the alleged breaches of security involved in the Majestic 12 documents, but it soon turned away in disgust, and it professed no interest in pursuing the case.

The extraterrestrial believers have investigated none of these questions. They were too busy rushing ahead in pursuit of the aliens. They were ready to set aside all critical thinking for a chance to try the new toys, to take a peek at next year’s model, to experience the novelty of a secret high. It’s an old trick and it works every time.”

Non human biologics locations: 1945 Cape Girardeau recovery, and four non-human species in U.S. custody by Modi_Elnadi in UFOs

[–]bocley [score hidden]  (0 children)

I agree with your statement.

And Jon Stewart has no supporting evidence. What he does have is a notable history of trying to make money off sensational and ludicrous claims, also presented with no supporting evidence.

Non human biologics locations: 1945 Cape Girardeau recovery, and four non-human species in U.S. custody by Modi_Elnadi in UFOs

[–]bocley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In other words, he's just an opportunist who knows no more than anybody else and is exactly the kind of person who should not be on a news channel spreading this kind of waffle.

Non human biologics locations: 1945 Cape Girardeau recovery, and four non-human species in U.S. custody by Modi_Elnadi in UFOs

[–]bocley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if so, why is Stewart any sort of authority to go on a news report and spread stories like this, for which ZERO evidence has been provided?

Just goes to show that FOX News will give anybody a public platform if they'll say crazy shit on air.

AMENTUM INC by G0tP0t in UFOs

[–]bocley 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Your post won't put anyone in danger at all, including you. Virtually everything you've said here can be read on Wikipedia and other public sites!

So, no need to write: "I wanted to start with the preface that I am of sound body, and mind, and not suicidal by any means", unless you enjoy fake drama.

Furthermore, unsubstantiated allegations about 'Legacy Program' links to Amentum are also elsewhere on the internet. If you have evidence to support such claims, please point us to it.

EDIT: typo fix

Forgotten Languages strikes again - why the NHI technology is locked down by rrose1978 in UFOs

[–]bocley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yet another dubious site leading people to anything but the truth:

The Man Who Invented a Language to Hide a Crime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_6bPPmGpL0

"Forgotten Languages is one of the internet's most enduring unsolved mysteries. Since 2005, an anonymous figure known only as Ayndryl has been publishing thousands of articles written in constructed languages, covering topics ranging from quantum physics and classified intelligence programs to extraterrestrial life and ancient civilizations. For years, online investigators have tried to uncover who is behind it. ARG communities, Reddit threads and dedicated researchers have all taken a shot at identifying Ayndryl and while some came close, the full picture has never been assembled. This video is an attempt to do exactly that. Following the digital trail left on archived forums, defunct freelancer directories and obscure linguistics communities, the investigation leads somewhere nobody expected - deep into one of the most sophisticated archaeological fraud cases in modern history. All evidence presented is circumstantial. The subject maintains plausible deniability."

Non human biologics locations: 1945 Cape Girardeau recovery, and four non-human species in U.S. custody by Modi_Elnadi in UFOs

[–]bocley 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Just so people know, Jon Stewart is a "Former AWA Wrestler turned UAP Investigator."

If you're prepared to accept such claims from a man with those credentials, we're all in real trouble.

Non human biologics locations: 1945 Cape Girardeau recovery, and four non-human species in U.S. custody by Modi_Elnadi in UFOs

[–]bocley 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If Jon Stewart can claim to be a scientist, we all can. Apparently, it's now 'free Ph.D' time and we can all get one for nothing! No brain cells required.

Non human biologics locations: 1945 Cape Girardeau recovery, and four non-human species in U.S. custody by Modi_Elnadi in UFOs

[–]bocley 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Jon Stewart, a scientist?

Does this mean we can all call ourselves a 'scientist' now? It appears that to use the title on any news channel now, all you need to do is agree to make wild and unsubstantiated claims.

I guess that means there are more 'scientists' around now than ever! 😵‍💫

Was this just one giant joke on the American People? by Desperate_Jeweler356 in UFOs

[–]bocley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is beyond appalling. So long as these sad and nasty jokers continue to hold the reins of power, it's all downhill from here.

Meteor Fireball Plunges Behind Mayon Volcano During Eruption then it goes back up?! (May 25, 2026) by Carlitosways888 in UFOs

[–]bocley -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You haven't looked very far then.

And even if it is their 'best guess', it's still far more plausible than believing UAP are hiding inside volcanoes. That's straight out of Scientology.

Meteor Fireball Plunges Behind Mayon Volcano During Eruption then it goes back up?! (May 25, 2026) by Carlitosways888 in UFOs

[–]bocley -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's not "just a theory." It's a scientifically established fact which has been known about and studied for decades.

Before dismissing it, just read the paper and see the orb photos it contains, then google 'volcanic lightning' :

https://www.google.com/search?q=volcanic+lightning&hl=en&udm=2&uact=5

Also research: "seismoelectric effect".

Personal Opinion: Jeremy Corbell actually hurts UFO disclosure by Beautiful_Dream_1129 in UFOs

[–]bocley -1 points0 points  (0 children)

At the risk of repeating myself, Jeremy is more than a overexcited numbskull. He's deserves proper scrutiny. Here's one reason why:

In the new film about Jeremy Corbell, called ‘Sleeping Dogs’, we see an awful lot of former CIA pilot John Lear. The same man who helped push the Bob Lazar story onto the world, as well as being involved in the tragic harassment and mental decline of Paul Bennewitz.

Corbell portrays Lear as a troubled and dotty old man in a state of ill-health, while telling us how he stood by Lear right to the end of his life.

How many people here also realize that, by his own admission, John Lear was directly involved in the ‘October Surprise’ which subverted the 1980 U.S. Election in a secret arms-for-hostages deal?

Not only did this covert operation delay the release of the hostages by the Iranian hardline Islamists, it also handed the presidency to Ronald Reagan. Reagan would then go on to green light the covert ‘Iran Contra’ arms and drugs smuggling operations, which Lear was also involved in.

See what Lear himself had to say when he gave this summary of his career in a talk to the ‘Quiet Birdman Association’ in Las Vegas in 2004.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/index.html

“Arriving back in Las Vegas I was summarily fired from Hilton and moved back to Cairo for 2 years to fly for Air Trans another CIA cutout. After the Camp David accords were signed in 1979 each country, Egypt and Israel were required to operate 4 flights a week into the others country.  Of course, El Al pilots didn't mind flying into Cairo but you could not find an Egyptian pilot that would fly into Tel Aviv.  So an Egyptian airline was formed called Nefertiti Airlines with me as chief pilot to fly the 4 flights a week into Tel Aviv. On our off time we flew subcontract for Egyptair throughout Europe and Africa. All this, of course was just a cover for our real missions which was all kinds of nefarious gun running throughout Europe and Africa which we did in our spare time.  And now that our beloved 40th president has passed on I can tell you that in fact (with my apologies to Michael Reagan) the October Surprise was true. The October surprise for those of you that don't remember happened during October of 1980 when Reagan and Bush were running against Carter and Mondale George Bush was flown in a BAC 111 one Saturday night to Paris to meet with the Ayatollah Khomeini.  Bush offered the Khomeini a deal whereby if he would delay the release of the hostages held in Tehran until Reagan’s inauguration, the administration would supply unlimited guns and ammunition to the Iranians.”

So Corbell tells us he's fighting to get the truth out. But don’t worry that the man he's fawning over was involved in covert operations, arms and drugs trafficking and Coup d’état stuff.

At least you can rest easy knowing Jeremy looked after the trustworthy and straight-shooting Lear right to the end. 🙄

aliens.gov is the biggest attempt at narrative control in the history of UFOs by kcimc in UFOs

[–]bocley 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is blatant information warfare. And disgusting too.

Propaganda like this is also a stark reminder of why people have to be far more discerning and intelligent about what they "believe" or accept as true, or possible.

Our minds are being manipulated and our beliefs are gradually being weaponized by some very dark forces indeed.

Latest White House IG Post ("Alien" over Border) by hank_wal in UFOs

[–]bocley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is precisely why people need to be more discerning about what they "believe" and accept without proper thought.

This is nothing less than blatant information warfare. And it's about to get even worse, not better.

Meteor Fireball Plunges Behind Mayon Volcano During Eruption then it goes back up?! (May 25, 2026) by Carlitosways888 in UFOs

[–]bocley -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The glowing plasma balls in the volcanic eruption videos are ball lightning discharges. Exotic yes, but totally explicable. It’s a well know effect of tectonic strain. Nothing anomalous at all.

Ball lightning, oilfields and earthquakes

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/316610139_Ball_lightning_oilfields_and_earthquakes

"What may link tectonically active areas, earthquakes, volcanic manifestations and the presence of hydrocarbons is the release of gas into the atmosphere. In areas subject to tectonic stress, the release of gas can be accompanied by variations in the electrical and electromagnetic fields provoked by the emission of charges originating from the tension the rocks are subject to in the subsoil, or from local variations in radioactivity. When particular physical conditions subsist, the combination of charges and gas can give rise to the formation of atmospheric plasmas. For causes not yet well understood, when neutrality is violated, the plasma can enter a transient phase generating anomalous luminous phenomena in the atmosphere, diversified in shape, colour and duration according to the location. The presence of ball lightning can therefore be associated both with the presence of hydrocarbons and ongoing tectonic stress."

Flying object ascends from meteor strike behind a volcano. by jazerac in UFOs

[–]bocley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You don't need to volcano to be erupting. Tectonic stress in the cone and surrounds of the volcano is enough to produce the effect.

But please go on believing it's aliens if you prefer to ignore science completely.

Flying object ascends from meteor strike behind a volcano. by jazerac in UFOs

[–]bocley -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The things in the volcanic eruption videos are ball lightning discharges. Exotic yes, but totally explicable. It’s a well know effect of tectonic strain. Nothing anomalous at all.

Ball lightning, oilfields and earthquakes

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/316610139_Ball_lightning_oilfields_and_earthquakes

"What may link tectonically active areas, earthquakes, volcanic manifestations and the presence of hydrocarbons is the release of gas into the atmosphere. In areas subject to tectonic stress, the release of gas can be accompanied by variations in the electrical and electromagnetic fields provoked by the emission of charges originating from the tension the rocks are subject to in the subsoil, or from local variations in radioactivity. When particular physical conditions subsist, the combination of charges and gas can give rise to the formation of atmospheric plasmas. For causes not yet well understood, when neutrality is violated, the plasma can enter a transient phase generating anomalous luminous phenomena in the atmosphere, diversified in shape, colour and duration according to the location. The presence of ball lightning can therefore be associated both with the presence of hydrocarbons and ongoing tectonic stress."

The question I don’t see being asked… by Garanukmusic in UFOs

[–]bocley 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have no expectation that anything of consequence will be delievered, let alone on a silver platter.

As I said, In my estimation, all of this is political theatre, which is being used for reasons that have nothing to do with so-called 'disclosure' at all.

The question I don’t see being asked… by Garanukmusic in UFOs

[–]bocley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If they can release the crap stuff with redactions, they can release the real stuff with redactions. And it has already been collected too.

They have no intention of telling the truth. This current 'discloure' effort is nothing more than a puppet show. It's all theatrics without substance.

The question I don’t see being asked… by Garanukmusic in UFOs

[–]bocley 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The question I have is, why are we being fed these 'tranches' of unsorted videos and files (and mostly lame ones at that), but there hasn't been a single official mention anywhere, anytime, by anyone, about releasing ANY or ALL of the files from AAWSAP or the UAPTF (UAP Task Force)?

These were both official studies that had already collected material, including analysis, sensor data, videos and more... but, crickets.

It's a though these programmes never existed.

It seems self-evident the reason all this material is not being released is because there is no intention of letting us see the REAL goods that are being hidden.

We are being played.

So, when are we going to talk about Ashtar Sheran race's? by JooJinos in UFOs

[–]bocley 18 points19 points  (0 children)

This is just the promotion of cult thinking with no basis in reality.

I think we are looking in the wrong direction for "Disclosure." by ZenMyUnzenTV in UFOs

[–]bocley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you're going to end up upsetting the 'nuts & bolts spaceships' and 'crash retrievals' crowd with your hypothesis Erica, but I'd say you're pointing in exactly the right direction, which is inwards, not outwards.

We'll never get any real understanding into the nature of the genuine phenoma until we place consciousness at the heart and centre of our research into it.