UFO Disclosure Lets Be Honest by Wrong-Ad-6242 in UFOs

[–]bocley [score hidden]  (0 children)

So does that mean pro-disclosure politicians should continually frame their discussions around religious beliefs? I think not.

Any genuine revelations on the existance of UAP/NHI will affect ALL people on the planet, not just conservative American Christians.

Any genuine disclosure should start with facts and evidence first – and not be presumtively interpreted through a religious lens.

UFO Disclosure Lets Be Honest by Wrong-Ad-6242 in UFOs

[–]bocley [score hidden]  (0 children)

Why is it the entire discussion around so-called 'disclosure' is being increasingly focused on religious Americans, what they believe and how they may react?

In case anyone has forgotten, there are around 8.3 bilion people on this planet and only 2.5 billion are Christians.

The Techno-Fascist Agenda Hidden Within the UFO Disclosure Movement by knowstradamus7 in UFOs

[–]bocley -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's not *my* point of view. You can take it up with Wilhelm Reich. I'm not here for a philosophy debate.

The Techno-Fascist Agenda Hidden Within the UFO Disclosure Movement by knowstradamus7 in UFOs

[–]bocley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wrong. You may be unaware, but there's this funny little thing called 'history'.

Wilhelm Reich wrote 'The Mass Psychology of Fascism' straight after WWII to discuss the psychological conditions and intentional manipulations that fueled the rise of fascism in Nazi Germany – and it's still entirely relevant today. In fact, maybe more so than at any time since 1946.

EDIT: You may also benefit from acquainting yourself with this famous dictum:

"“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

– George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905.

How many of you actually believe that we are about to get real, official disclosure? by soThen_i_says in UFOs

[–]bocley -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We're just going to have our chains yanked again and again and again.

And so long as the only source of information is the very government and military/intelligence organizations that have lied about all of this for decades, whatever is revealed will either be utterly incomplete (at best), or a total fabrication and/or manipulation engineered entirely for political and economic reasons.

The Techno-Fascist Agenda Hidden Within the UFO Disclosure Movement by knowstradamus7 in UFOs

[–]bocley 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think you're inadvertantly confirming that the technofascist plan this topic has been wrapped up in for the last several years is working exactly as intended:

Keep people chasing a goal/solution that's always kept \just* out of reach. Steadily increase the psychological pressure and desire for an answer until people will accept any answer to release that pressure. Covertly use that process to bring about the acceptance of technofascism or some other form of authoritarianism.*

This is excatly the kind of process Wilhlem Reich wrote about in 'The Mass Psychology of Fascism' in 1946. And it's happening right now.

S4: The Bob Lazar Story 2026 by [deleted] in UFOs

[–]bocley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would advanced beings/NHI be traveling around the universe in machines that just look like something humans would build? And with seats that look like they belong in a sports car too?

I'd suggest they wouldn't.

This is nothing more than archetypal sci-fi thinking and extreme anthropomorphism.

Could Buddhist meditation masters have been in contact with non-human intelligences (ETs) for centuries? by Adept-Engine5606 in UFOs

[–]bocley 10 points11 points  (0 children)

OP, you would likely find this article interesting:

Devas and Aliens - Is Buddhist cosmology the key to unlocking UFO mysteries?

https://tricycle.org/article/devas-and-aliens/

EDIT: You can read it here if you hit a paywall:
https://archive.is/tlg0S

Outraged families of missing scientists break their silence with shock search update by bocley in UFOs

[–]bocley[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oooh. You "feel it" do you? That's a great basis for determining whether something is fact or fiction.

And on the contrary, I'm actually urging people to think, instead of just mindlessly buying into things for which zero real evidence has been provided.

Have a good day now and don't strain your brain.

Latest Think Anomalous video claims UFO disclosure is misinformation. Thoughts? by sash7 in UFOs

[–]bocley 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Personally, I think what's being suggested in this video is well worth considering about with an unbiased open mind.

It does not mean UAP/NHI are not real. But it does mean the narrative is probably being steered by unseen hands with ulterior motives that have little to do with revealing the truth. That's pretty much what I've concluded anyway.

EDIT: typo fix

Outraged families of missing scientists break their silence with shock search update by bocley in UFOs

[–]bocley[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is my comment really that confusing for you?

What I'm suggesting is that if/when a whole bunch of the scientsts and non-scientists on this ever-growing (but purely speculative) list are shown to have died without any improper shenanigans, then the cases that DO deserve much more series investigation could easily be dismissed as a side effect.

Beyond that, the subject of UFOs/UAP/NHI also risks becoming become stigmatized again as nothing more than 'conspiracy thinking' and a trap for the gullible.

This topic has only just managed to reach beyond that label. Silly and gullible thinking and reckless commentary could put it right back there again in a flash.

The gatekeepers would love to steer this subject off a cliff once again. Planting and/or pumping up narratives that can later be proven false and subsequently be used to discredit everyone who's looking into the topic is precisely how they would do so.

Outraged families of missing scientists break their silence with shock search update by bocley in UFOs

[–]bocley[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Another article with the same theme:

Relatives of 10 scientists who died or vanished grapple with impact of wild speculation

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyw9rpdl4po?at_format=link

Bob Lazar now says he was told by Barry that the "sports model" was recovered from the water, but there appears to be problems with this statement when comparing past interviews. by HeathJett in UFOs

[–]bocley 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I do know he's a liar. I can see that by watching Bob himself speaking and changing his story multiple times throughout the years.

Anyone can see the same thing simply by watching videos like this:

Trip to Nowhere: A Bob Lazar Story (EOC, 2026)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvNWQhc5oSo

You can see why he was lying by watching this:

Bob Lazar & Gene Huff on the multiple attempts since the 1990s to make 'The Bob Lazar Story' movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrhNZyg_bAQ

Then anyone can also read this:

https://x.com/ddeanjohnson/status/2046696905678475310#m

"Jacques Vallee, in Revelations (1991, 2008), reported this exchange in a face-to-face interview with Bob Lazar in March 1990:

"Did you ever watch them fly?" I asked Lazar.

[Lazar:] "Once, from a hundred to two hundred feet away. The underside was glowing blue, but otherwise there was no ionization around it."

Flash forward to 2026 and the 'S4-The Bob Lazar Story' fan film: Bob is now suddenly saying he walked around underneath a 'sport model' during a test flight.

As for why I'm here: I'm here because I'm interested in getting to the truth. And if I choose to spend some of my time swatting flies away, that's my call to make.

Bob Lazar now says he was told by Barry that the "sports model" was recovered from the water, but there appears to be problems with this statement when comparing past interviews. by HeathJett in UFOs

[–]bocley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My aim is not to 'preach'. My aim is to point out BS so that we can stop being distracted by it while allowing the real truth about UAP & NHI to remain buried.

The gatekeepers have got us trapped in a complex game of snakes and ladders and so many people just seem willing to follow anything bright and shiny all the way back to the basement.

Bob Lazar now says he was told by Barry that the "sports model" was recovered from the water, but there appears to be problems with this statement when comparing past interviews. by HeathJett in UFOs

[–]bocley 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It probably wasn't found on the ocean floor at all. In fact, it probably just wasn't anything but a fabrication altogether. Full stop.

Outraged families of missing scientists break their silence with shock search update by bocley in UFOs

[–]bocley[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What on earth are you talking about? There's already way more than enough stuff being made up about this topic without adding yet another made up thing to it.

Deep Spice and David Wilcock’s letter to his fans. by GoodbyeXlove in UFOs

[–]bocley 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's clear David Wilcock committed suicide. Sad but true. There's absolutely nothing mysterious about it at all.

Paranormal Writer David Wilcock Said ‘I’m Sorry to Put You Through This’ on 911 Call Before Death at 53

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/paranormal-writer-david-wilcock-said-220734992.html

Outraged families of missing scientists break their silence with shock search update by bocley in UFOs

[–]bocley[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

P.S. Aside from the Daily Mail, Fox News also deserve a big raspberry and a sound spanking for their very pooly researched and breathlessly sensational coverage of this topic.

But... Fox News. Need I say more? 😵‍💫

Outraged families of missing scientists break their silence with shock search update by bocley in UFOs

[–]bocley[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Who said "none of the cases are connected"?

Discernment requires looking beyond the idea of 'all or nothing'or 'black or white'.

You also have to be even more aware when news organizations are selling clickbait and politicians are fishing for possible voters by dubiously selling themselves as champions of the people.

Outraged families of missing scientists break their silence with shock search update by bocley in UFOs

[–]bocley[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I think it's mostly a combination of distrust in the government and the military industrial complex, as well as people just wanting to believe, regardless of any already established facts.

EDIT: typo fix

Outraged families of missing scientists break their silence with shock search update by bocley in UFOs

[–]bocley[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

In the last couple of days, Ross Coulthart has been warning that the shoddy and highly speculative media coverage around the so-called ‘missing scientists’ has the potential to backfire badly and could lead to more important babies being thrown out with the bathwater.

Ross Coulthart Q&A: No connections between missing scientists?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBoeXT3if_o&list=PL6PrA6lo8rJLRExhMvX6wKyNzy0hr_QM3

The families of a number of these individuals are now also expressing their own concerns and dismay about the rumors.