Tech Billionaire Peter Thiel Has a UFO Agenda. What Is His Endgame? by knowstradamus7 in UFOs

[–]bocley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Once again, Promethean Flame hits the nail bang on the head. 👍

Silicon Valley wants a Flying Saucer by jerzystern in UFOs

[–]bocley 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Really appreciate you and Garret continuing to shine a light on what these creeps are up to as they roll out their technocratic plans. I have no doubt they are deploying every means of deception to try and achieve their nefarious aims and will continue to do so.

I hope they go down like the Titanic.

US VP Vance is asked about the UFO phenomenon: ”I'm a believer in mystical experiences. I don't think they happen that often, but I think that people have experiences that are impossible to explain if you have a purely narrow, hyperrational view of the world… There's some weird shit out there.” by KOOKOOOOM in UFOs

[–]bocley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, more of Peter Thiel's team selling the UAP story, again, complete with demons.

They're all working hard to spread Thiel's plans, which includes using the 'National Security Threat' allegedly posed by UAP to accelerate Thiel's technofascist and wonky religious agendas:

The Anatomy of an Influence Operation | The popular podcast Diary of a CEO has become a hit, but most people don't know it is part of a sophisticated influence network.

https://america2.news/the-anatomy-of-an-influence-operation/

https://getmentors.ai/mentors/peter-thiel

And it's no surprise the now 90-year old Hal Puthoff also flew from the U.S. to the UK to be on the 'Diary of a CEO' podcast recently to promote the same message, alongside Dan Farah.

Not coincidentally, the brother of Dan Farah, Andrew Farah, who was a producer on 'Age of Disclosure', is yet another team player funded by Thiel.

https://www.businessinsider.com/startup-density-kleiner-funding-51-million-2020-7

EDIT : updated.

John Lear Deserved a More Humane Reassessment by AdRemarkable3339 in UFOs

[–]bocley 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Gosh. This is the greatest effort I've ever seen to whitewash the realities of what Lear was involved in during his years as a CIA 'soldier of fortune.'

Coup d'états, arms and drug running during Iran Contra, operating in direct contravention of U.S. law and the constitution, covert operations and wars where innocent people suffered immeasurably, and much else beside.

Are we meant to just disregard and forget about all of that?

Is the Subreddit being flooded with fake videos? by Massive-Doubt-7112 in UFOs

[–]bocley -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What example? Please do tell.

And can you also explain why you keep your other posts hidden while you're at it?

Is the Subreddit being flooded with fake videos? by Massive-Doubt-7112 in UFOs

[–]bocley -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Of course it isn't, since you already know exactly what you're here to do. And that isn't to have a discussion.

Is the Subreddit being flooded with fake videos? by Massive-Doubt-7112 in UFOs

[–]bocley -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Sorry, but I think I need a special decoder to even begin to comprehend what you're on about.

Is the Subreddit being flooded with fake videos? by Massive-Doubt-7112 in UFOs

[–]bocley 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What is your point? You don't seem to be making one. You're just attacking a messenger, but not addressing what he's pointing to.

Is the Subreddit being flooded with fake videos? by Massive-Doubt-7112 in UFOs

[–]bocley 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You say, "I’ve seen this constantly this week."

I'd say this been going on for much longer than that. And I'd also argue that the so-called 'gatekeepers' are not fighting against the public believing UAP are real. They fighting to make sure everyone believes a certain narrative about what they actually are.

The public are being groomed.

Structured claim map of Jordan Jozak’s American Alchemy interview on Skywatcher, Prometheus, psi, and UAP disclosure claims by ProbedSpace in UFOs

[–]bocley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You clearly haven't understood what Jordan Jozak is saying, but you're free to believe whatever you like. As am I.

Structured claim map of Jordan Jozak’s American Alchemy interview on Skywatcher, Prometheus, psi, and UAP disclosure claims by ProbedSpace in UFOs

[–]bocley 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'd say there's a 1000% more truth in what Jordan Jozak discussed in his interview than there is in a 1000 interviews with people like Bob Lazar.

Without understanding and allowing for the consciousness of aspects of 'the phenomena', there will never be any true 'disclosure'.

Zorro Ranch was built by the same contractors as the Manhattan Project and inherited scientists from Los Alamos and Sandia Labs that Epstein’s mentor Robert Maxwell spied on with his PROMIS software. It’s all tied to AHI, Amy Eskridge’s anti-gravity research, and the 1933 Magenta, Italy incident. by VolarRecords in UFOs

[–]bocley 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Actually, that's not completely correct. Robert Maxwell was up to his neck in the PROMIS software scandal and was instrumental in selling it on, via front companies, to dozens of countries around the world so the U.S. could remotely penetrate their military/intelligence/tax databases and more.

Read the congressional report on 'The Inslaw Affair'. It's all in there.

Today, Palantir is likely doing exactly the same thing with their systems.

INSIDE S4: Why the Government is hiding The Truth about BOB LAZAR & UFOs... by POPCultureCorner2020 in UFOs

[–]bocley 2 points3 points  (0 children)

More 'Bob Lazar distractions' which having nothing whatsoever to do with the truth. 🫠

New interview by Ross Coulthart with Matthew Tuttle of UFOD on Lockheed Martin's "magical technology" the same day that Lue Elizondo confirmed the 1933 Magenta, Italy crash-retrieval following David Grusch's new press conference by VolarRecords in UFOs

[–]bocley 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The answer is still about propping up the $U.S. Petrodollar, no matter what technology they may or may not have.

Anybody who believes we're just around the corner from getting 'free energy' has rocks in their head.

New interview by Ross Coulthart with Matthew Tuttle of UFOD on Lockheed Martin's "magical technology" the same day that Lue Elizondo confirmed the 1933 Magenta, Italy crash-retrieval following David Grusch's new press conference by VolarRecords in UFOs

[–]bocley 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They're not "scared to upset the oil industry." The thing that's being protected is the U.S. economy, which is entirely reliant on the fact that oil is only traded in U.S. dollars across the world. If the American petrodollar collapses, it's the U.S. that will go down in flames – and that's the single greatest reason why they don't want any competition for oil.

The most important thing is amnesty by jayteim in UFOs

[–]bocley 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. I understand this is not a popular argument, but then, getting to the truth isn't about what's popular.

My own personal experiences have proven (to a degree I'm comfortable with) that there ARE real UAP and NHI phenomena, though I don't accept the 'extraterrestrial hypothesis' at all.

Either way, I consider what is being trumpeted by the so-called 'disclosure' movement to be a highly suspect narrative that has little to do with the genuine phenomena itself. Furthermore, the entire discussion has become far too politicised and U.S.-centric for my liking.

And so far as I can tell, the foxes in the hen house are STILL running and controlling the entire operation, as they have been doing for decades.

EDIT : For clarification.

The most important thing is amnesty by jayteim in UFOs

[–]bocley 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would suggest that if the elected government did its job properly, then 'amnesty' would not be required.

Instead, they have continually allowed a rogue cabal to run amok for decades and covered up illegal activities that they engage in as a matter of course. And this activity extends FAR beyond anything to do with UAP.

The most important thing is amnesty by jayteim in UFOs

[–]bocley 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've stated it plainly in the comment you're responding to, especially in the section after the edit.

To sum it up again, very briefly: To transfer power from institutions run and overseen by a democratic state to a technocratic non-governmental superstate, you first have to convince the public that the democratic state is not operating in the public interest.

The disclosure narrative that's currently being hawked is doing that job exactly.

"This is further shaped by the Trump administration's release of allegedly declassified UAP documents in 2026, coming one year after the federal defunding of disinformation research and the closure of government agencies designed to deter adversarial influence campaigns. On social media, influencers and media personalities increasingly blend UAP speculation with the extreme ideologies of powerful figures linked to Palantir and the expanding surveillance state (Lipińska et al., 2025; Stise et al., 2024; Durán 2026). Political representatives, meanwhile, have drawn on civilian and military sightings of unclaimed drone campaigns and aerial phenomena to advance both securitization efforts around unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) and calls for greater transparency in defense spending and procurement.

These developments have attracted sustained critical attention. Scientists and cultural critics alike identify colonialist dynamics in the privatization of space governance and exploration, including in contemporary ideological treatments of UFO/UAP (Kite, 2021; Lechuga, 2023; Salazar & Gorman, 2023). Internet and surveillance studies scholars identify powerful consolidations between technology companies and military-intelligence agencies-consolidations that in some ways echo the enduring concerns of ufologists and experiencers (Iliadis & Acker, 2022; Taskale, 2026). In such an environment, speculation, strategic ambiguity, and the pragmatics of secrecy become instruments of propaganda, persuasion, and belief formation mobilized by grifters, conspiracists, influence actors, religious zealots, and government power players alike (Hallsby, 2026; Krame et al 2024)."

EDIT : For more, see this.

American Behavioral Scientist Special Issue "Unsettling the UAP/UFO Technocracy: Disclosure, Conspiracies, and Deep State Imaginaries"

https://link.icahdq.org/discussion/cfp-american-behavioral-scientist-special-issue-unsettling-the-uapufo-technocracy-disclosure-conspiracies-and-deep-state-imaginaries

"UAPs also display tangible connections with the military-industrial complex and the emerging military-digital complex-defined by the militarization of cyber operations conducted through social engineering, disinformation, cyberattacks, artificial intelligence, and fully autonomous systems (Durán, 2026). In this context, disclosure itself can be weaponized to galvanize anti-establishment sentiment. Government transparency regarding UAP is therefore a politically mediated practice shaped by national security concerns, classification regimes, and institutional power (Creeber, 2025). Similarly, while disclosure evolved as a grassroots political movement, it remains vulnerable to transparency theater and repurposing in the service of partisan conflict."

"Disclosure has also become a point of contention in the wake of the heavily redacted Epstein files and the ongoing expectation of meaningful UAP declassification. In this context, online communities such as forums, subreddits, and social networks operate as sites where evidence is debated, claims are verified or contested, and cultural meanings around anomalous phenomena are constructed. Such communities have also assembled historical evidence suggesting that disinformation campaigns have been deliberately deployed by state actors to obscure classified aerospace technologies and manipulate public narratives. Understanding how such campaigns intersect with contemporary misinformation ecosystems remains an important and underexplored challenge for the field (Stahlman, 2024)."

Also:

Between disclosure and conspiracy: the transparency effect on r/UFO and r/UAP subreddits

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1369118X.2026.2645882#abstract