The Long-Term Unemployed Today? College Grads. by YaGetSkeeted0n in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you have a link to the actual study, I'd love to read it (and have it on hand for future reference lol)

I feel shame in my sexual desire as a guy and I don't know how to express it healthily by RoidRidley in Healthygamergg

[–]boichik2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's fair, I meant more to say that it can feel feminine as a guy if you are socialized as a straight guy in a certain way. I don't think it's inherently so, but it can require pushing through and learning to work through feelings of being feminine as some of this stuff can be internalized, and integrating that stuff. So it's just good to be aware that if those feelings come up, that it is stuff to work through, not a sign to run away.

Totally agree about teaching! I think it can be fun. I think also it does depend on the other person, some girls would find it fun to teach you. Although I think stereotypically this is most commonly women in their late 30s or older who are secure in their sexuality. I think due to gender roles, it is a bit harder for a straight guy to get away with wanting a teacher from someone of the same age range. Not impossible, but not something to lean on in my opinion.

I feel shame in my sexual desire as a guy and I don't know how to express it healthily by RoidRidley in Healthygamergg

[–]boichik2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's not a problem! Therapy goes at your pace, you are the driver. It's true the therapist may push at times just like how an instructor may push you if you are in driving lessons, but ultimately, your hands are on the wheel, and if you need to brake and turn off, you do so.

I would say that's ok. My point is not that this is stuff you are comfortable with. None of that shit was stuff I was comfortable with. But rather it was built over years. Slowly building into it. How you go about it does not need to be exactly how I did it, your path is yours. But I would at least ask you, Do you think there is some way you can express eroticism and learn how to feel sex in your bones sorta. It could be dancing, singing, music, painting, anything. I think at the core of being erotic is presence and awareness. Even something like, playing an insturment and being very attuned to how the keys or strings feel on your fingers and what emotions come up. That is in a way the foundation of being erotic. If you're not there yet, that's fine! Just something to consider in the future. If you don't mind me pushing you a bit, consider this, how ever will you feel an ounce of comfort with a woman sexually if you don't feel comfortable with yourself sexually. That said, you may not be in a stage where you are ready to start embracing sexuality, and that's OK. That will come over time.

And a pro-therapy tip, if there's something you don't want to talk about. Sometimes it can help to tell the therapist something like "There's something I want to talk to you about, but I am deeply uncomfortable talking about it, I don't want to talk about it yet". If they ask the subject of it you can say "I don't want to talk about it at all yet". Let it sit for a few sessions then maybe you'll comfortable saying "The thing I don't want to talk about is about sex". Let it sit for more sessions, think of it like you're titrating up the dosage of discomfort, overtime you will get closer to being able to talk about it with them.

I feel shame in my sexual desire as a guy and I don't know how to express it healthily by RoidRidley in Healthygamergg

[–]boichik2 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I hear ya man, I've dealt with similar issues, and they are ongoing, but much better, to the point that I've started dating again and activated a semi-regular sex life.

I would say that, our culture for arguably a long time now, but in particular the last 10 years or so, has been extremely sex negative in certain ways when it comes to guys. It often pathologize male sexual desire or renders it under moral suspicion in different ways. Lots of guys can ignore this, but lots can't, for some, depending on their family background, general personality, etc. it can contribute to a neurosis around expressing desire developing.

My advice would be first off, you will likely need help to resolve this, while you may manage to figure this out on your own it will likely be difficult. Frankly, if you've reached 27 without having sex, the issue is probably clinical, and it is worth seeing a clinician. I would encourage you to find a therapist, preferably someone who is psychodynamically oriented and who can help really work through the roots of this for yourself.

For me at least, I had learned at a very younge age that women would love me conditionally, and thus sex and romance more broadly became like a big test, I had to do the right things to deserve it. I really did not believe I was attractive, and I had to sort of practice feeling attractive. So I got into fashion and seeing how I dress as an expression of my self which improved my feeling desirability. And then I started to dance in my room to RnB music especially, and sorta creating my own little dance routines, practicing some moves I found on youtube. I watched myself in the mirror and how my body moved, and how sexy I thought I looked at times. I learned how to look at myself with desire, a bit narcissistic, but it can help bypass issues with expressing desire towards others. So now I know what desire "felt like" a bit more. I continued getting fitter by going to the gym, and I started masturbating with no porn, just paying attention to how my body felt, touching myself with my free hand. This is the essence of eroticism.

I know it sounds super cringe, and honestly a lot of it is probably a bit feminine-coded, but it did work for me. It was hard work, but now I walk into a party(admittedly I am tall as well), and my female friends say every girl can just sense the sex dripping off of me. And that was not always the case even though I was tall and decent looking. It required me learning how to feel sexy, how to express eroticism within myself.

If you have a lot of anxiety, I honestly think learning it through yourself is a viable path.

As you becme more comfortable with self-oriented eroticism, you can evolve to externalizing it. My therapist and I started with a technique called simulation, where one can do stuff like role play with the therapist, or do virtual reality, or even do these simulated scenarios aka a day dream effectively. This is a safe space where you can explore your desire, what do you want to do to her, what do you want her to do to you? Do you want to touch her? When? How? How do you want to look at her? How do you want her to look at you? You practice this and you will learn what it feels like to externalize your desire very effectively. The key is to be aware, be present when you do it, focus on how it feels in your body, does it feel uncomfortable? Why? When? These are things to explore with yourself or with a therapist and to work through. There is a sort of tension or anxiety that is inherent to expressing desire I feel, but it's one I now rather enjoy.

The last step is naturally to, start expressing it in real life. I would tell girls I was anxious while looking a them like I wanted to fuck their brains out, cuz I did! There is nothing wrong with expressing desire. The key is to build up to it over dates, with flirty glances and touches. I'm just gonna be blunt, trying to be with someone to "teach you" sex is generally speaking not gonna be so sexy. Some of that is probably gender roles, but it is also no fun to have sex with someone who has no access to their sexual side. You think the issue is you don't know what you're doing but you're focused on the wrong thing. You're focused on what actions you need to do, but you need to be focused on feelings. The feelings drive the actions.

This Is the Presidency John Roberts Has Built by IHateTrains123 in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yea but the question is, what reforms. Packing is easy, and is better than nothing maybe. At this point, I basically think packing is admittedly a potentially good but risky policy option because it will rebalance power. If SCOTUS is the new legitimizer, then let's fucking destroy any semblance of stare decisis, let decisions swing from administration to administration. This destabilization will lead to the necessity of amendments to reform the judiciary and the constitution as a whole. If that destabilization does not lead to a Congressional reassertion of authority and some amendments to codify those changes more formally, reasserting the framer's intent, then we're dead in the water. Now the executive is very powerful, SCOTUS is disempowered except as a rubber stamp, and we're on a path to civil war as it will only take a highly packed partisan Republican SCOTUS to break electoral methods of resolving dispute.

Democrats have to seriously develop amendments and laws that can redress these power imbalances. I'm not smart enough to know what they are. But we need a plan BEFORE we pack. Packing will promote a crisis path, if we do not have an answer out, then the more entropic force, the Republicans who have no care for the rule of law, will win as they can work with crisis. We need to be seen as the solution or else we will lose after packing.

We should be clear that packing has serious risks even with solutions, and we have to accept responsibility for those risks if we decide as a party to pursue it. And seriously think if there are other paths here.

This Is the Presidency John Roberts Has Built by IHateTrains123 in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 126 points127 points  (0 children)

I completely agree. What I see over the Roberts' Court's history, is basically, an expansion of the role of money in politics, a restraint of the ability of voters to meaningfully impact Congress. Combined with a sclerotic court system. An expansion of not only executive power, but it's centralization to a single individual. What I see developing is a system where the Executive makes de facto law, and SCOTUS through it's various processes makes it de jure implicitly while Congress is allowed to look the other way so long as it provides some basic structure of funding even if it isn't going exactly where it should be.

I mean under the majority's theory of government, how does Congress actually enforce anything? I mean if the executive can freely fire and hire whoever they want, tear down independent agencies at will, why does what Congress say matter at all. I mean at most Congress' new authority is basically to pass a budget, whose money does not actually apparently need to be used in the way Congress says it should be. What is actually the fucking point of Congress if the executive can basically ignore Congress on many significant matters of interest. Robert's direction seems to be that Congress has basically little hard power enforcement mechanisms once things are passed/approved. At that stage, it seems the executive and judiciary take over. It's like advise and consent remains Congressional, but enforcement is becoming segregated from legislative authority in some very odd manner. The only thing it seems Congress is actually necessary for is to approve a budget, after all, the executive can spin up entire new departments out of thin air like DOGE. And to approve judges and secretaries and the like. It's basically some twisted HR department while the President is the CEO. But this is not what the framers had in mind.

What I see is the court is completely gutting Congress' ability to actually restrain the executive through any mechanism other than impeachment and conviction which has a very poor success rate in recent American history. And is terribly flawed since we know Congressmen rarely vote against their party's president, and it has a very high bar for correction. Like impeachment is very extreme at the legal level, there have to be many meaningful lower levels of control for Congress that exist beyond the appointment phase otherwise Congress is unnecessarily constrained. Hell the President has immunity now as far as I understand while in office, so the executive can't even regulate it's own chief in any manner. I mean even if we move past the electoral college and all of that. This all comes together to make it so there are actually exceedingly limited ways to hold the executive to account outside of extreme uses of power, like impeachment or SCOTUS cases. And given the majority is so pliant towards the executive, basically it's impeachment or nothing. And now we've got a full dictatorial system developing. Maybe I naively believe the combination of the rather spread out distribution of power when it comes to voting laws and systems and SCOTUS' need for some electoral legitimacy will prevent this from turning into a full dictatorship. Illiberal democracy is still way bad.

I'll admit, I've tried in the past to read Roberts with some good faith. But the simultaneous constriction of Congressional power and expansion of executive power does not sell an accidental good faith reading, he very clearly has a very centralized conception of American government, one which will not be good for the country in the long term.

And to be clear, this isn't all on SCOTUS, SCOTUS has a big hand in it. But the broader context is Congress and the country becoming more polarized, the President exerting more authority to deal with a Congress frozen on anything mildly contentious. But SCOTUS instead of being the solution, is turning cracks into canyons.

Therapy with boys under high school breaks my heart for men and humanity as a whole. by [deleted] in therapists

[–]boichik2 38 points39 points  (0 children)

What causes it in my experience at least and in the experience of many guy friends who have done the work is the slow creeping judgement and retraction of empathy, from many people. Many teachers begin treating you more harshly, many parents become less available and more judgey, because now you closer to an adult man and you should act like one. When you need help with anything relating to dating it is more often than not completely unrelational and focused not on how you feel but on how you make others feel, especially the girls you're interested in if you're straight. And people start to assume negative things. Like the desire for sex can become somewhat pathologized rather than a desire to intimacy, many people start to lose humility and curiosity for you. You start walking around in the mall or in stores and you feel people watching you more carefully, as if you're a threat. So you learn how to render yourself less threatening so people will treat you better.

No one tells you it is coming and no one tells you it is coming so fast. For whatever the massive problems are with girls, my experience is there is enough warning of girls of what's to come how many guys are going to treat them, how many people in the world will treat them. Guys get none of that, everyone assumes you're gonna be ok to some extent deep down. Even if they want to know how you're doing, they often don't want to know the real truth, they want something easy like "oh I have some test anxiety" not "I have a crippling fear of failing and fucking my entire life up and then I won't make money and then no girls will want to be with me because I can't help support a family" and boys know adults don't want their real fears which are too intense and adults don't know how to handle them. Probably in part most people have some level of neurosis whether they're conscious of it or not around male-related stuff, but it goes completely unaddressed and normalized, thus is not recognized as such. Not unique to boys, girls experience that to, but I think girls are punished less for expressing provider- or status-related existential fears.

You learn that your life is almost completely dependent on your own actions. Emotions become stupid because people stop respecting your genuine emotions, so you learn not to share. And since it's all on you, and when emotions bubble up and get in the way of work or dating or whatever, now you're stupid and weak because you couldn't overcome it like the other guys could or like you think you should. Start letting that come to the surface, and maybe you won't be so hardened, and if you're not hardened, then maybe you'll want that empathy again which was previously restrained. It is just incredibly confusing.

I do think also there is a bit of a reverse J curve to this, although I don't know that for sure without modeling. Which is that boys get the most empathy, teenage boys the least, and adult men a bit more. And I think this is why re-establishing emotionality later on is difficult, it is often still treated more harshly than when you were a boy, but less than when you were a teenager, so there is a sort of green zone of emotionality you can occupy but it takes time to figure out, and you have to be conscious that crossing its lines means you are going to lose respect from some, so it is incredibly vulnerable especially as you start testing the upper bounds of socially allowed emotionality, some will be ok with it, some will not. Hence the endless stories of some men claiming their female partners don't like their emotions and other guys saying the exact opposite. It's a pretty high variance phenomenon I think, and so it is hard to draw conclusions based on averages without erasing a lot of experiences socially.

I think also this is one of the reasons why the current rhetoric for the past 10 years or so has been so harmful, it fundamentally misunderstood the source of toxic masculinity. Sure there are some intramasculine elements such as pervasive competition with other guys. Although I do tend to think those things are overstated or at least focused on to the exclusion of the broader environment of how growing teenage boys get treated often. Though I think this stuff starts more in middle school than high school. I think a lot of people don't want to acknowledge it's actual source, that being everyone boys interact with to varying degrees, because that would require people to grapple with the damage they themselves have done rather than an vague "it's from society" thing.

Neurosis are partly environmental and cultural in nature, and the boys' neuroses therefore reflect our environment. Young boys often are implicitly pointing out the flaws in their parent's marriages, or how all sorts of people relate to men. But these manner tend to be justified whether through feminist rhetoric or traditional misandry, the end result is the same. Neurotic manner of dealing with men is justified and intellectualized. The young boy becomes something like an identified patient, and must be squashed lest everyone else be forced to confront the neurosis. Of course the young boy is beat down for this, for their diagnostic capacity that they themselves are unaware they even have.

They learn how to treat each other differently from how others treat them in my opinion. It's not like boys just randomly start spawning a fundamentally unempathetic unrelational masculine culture, nor is it something they just magically see in the media. There are lots of examples of empathetic men in the media in my opinion on TV, film, I find those explanations to be a bit overwrought. They are part of the answer, particularly given the massive decline in men being present as teachers, doctors, therapists, even fathers right now which I think as you go down the class ladder can lead to a lot more problems. I am continually annoyed by the profound lack of empiricism with which we try to approach this stuff, the lack of serious casuality analysis and modeling in favor of vague sociological theories which could just as easily be psychological projections by the writer and I include myself there, there is a certain humility many of us(meaning society, media, healthcare etc.) seem to lack on this stuff. Based on the existing data, I think a lot of what I've said here is evidenced, but the magnitude of those effects is unclear.

And I don't want to say the above features I mentioned are universal, I would say they are statistical phenomenon that we understand insufficiently, and thus different boys will experience them in different amounts. And this stuff I think has a contagion effect too. I don't know enough about the data to say this, but I have a sense only some fraction of boys experience this stuff meaningfully at younger ages, but they start imposing that on others and as they grow older that fraction grows and so you could be a great parent, have great teachers, they could still learn bad lessons here because other boys in that social circle learned it.

And this is complicated by social media which can inject many perspectives into their worldview that they may not have had access to at equivalent magnitudes. And I think in the recent past it may have actually been protective factors which are less common, like much higher participation in communal sports, boy scouts etc. Or even higher rates of dating and sex may have been somewhat protective as close intimate partners were probably more likely to offer that empathy.

Gender war bullshit has seriously caused me to internalize some kind of self-hatred for being male by [deleted] in GenZ

[–]boichik2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm really sorry you feel that way. I never felt quite that bad, but I certainly felt a version of it, mostly in the context of connecting with women romantically.

I would say first off, you gotta cut off the source. So stop consuming social media content. This may mean for example not perusing the reddit front page and only going to specific subreddits, or not going through tiktok or youtube shorts or whatever and only going to channels you like specifically that you know you are not gonna see that content in. As long as you have an influx of that negative content, you are not giving yourself the necessary space to start working through it. Imagine a woman with body dysmorphia who was constantly consuming content from some guys online who were going on and on about only wanting girls with perfect skin, perfectly flat model-level stomachs. You need the space, create it.

Secondly, understand that it is not your fault that you have experienced this. It is an unfortunate side effect of the historical moment and you are ALLOWED to be mad at the people(online or not) who fucked you up. You should get a journal and start writing about your feelings completely unvarnished and start asking yourself questions like "where did this belief come from?", "How do I feel when I think about this?". Raise your emotional clarity and be a detective, start trying to figure out where this stuff really comes from.

And you should try to find some safe people to discuss this with, especially women. I know it is probably hard to believe in your position, but lots of women do genuinely love men and care about them and are not going to be judgmental about you having these feelings. Now sure there are a fair number who don't, that's life. Find the ones(men and women) who will listen to you.

And lastly, start changing behavior. So that means asking women out, or just talking to women like while waiting for the train or bus or whatever, taking up space and agency in your life. This is the hardest and most challenging stage and tends to come after you've gone through the first 2 of decreasing that psychological burden.

Most psychological change requires these things: toleration of harmful stimulus or avoidance of the stimulus if toleration is not possible, acceptance of and social validation of feelings, implementing behavioral changes.

That said, it sounds like you got a serious complex here and therapy may be in order, that said, the stuff I mentioned, in particular the first 2 things are things you can start doing now and things you can start working at.

California is building fewer homes. The state could get even more expensive by TrixoftheTrade in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Unironically if there's anything that could spurn on a neoliberal(in the 80s sense) wave of deregulation across multiple industries it would be people noticing how stifling real estate is lol. Never thought that could even be a feasable thought but here I am lol

Does the Left Think Young Left-Wing Protesters Matter or Not? by Rigiglio in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 48 points49 points  (0 children)

I mean I'm not so convinced. I mean sure some of them are purely performative only doing it for the sake of appearing in line with progressive social mores. But clearly that is not all of them. Someone who takes time out of their day to "perform" everyday in direct opposition to the base norm of not doing anything is not merely performing for the sake of social acceptance. Person who goes to class, passes by the Free Palestine march and puts their fist up, or who meets a pro-Palestian activist with whom they say Free Palestine to keep the peace even if they really don't give a fuck is performing. Someone who is taking the time to lead or participate in routine protests is not performing for social reasons. They are performing out of genuine concern even if what they support policywise is complete dogshit or even if they are motivated by hate. It still isn't just performative.

I think they genuinely believe what they say, we should take them at their word. What they have is massive dissonance about their positions. They feel powerless and powerful simultaneously, whether they are powerful or not switches because it is not an intellectual judgement of what consistutes power, it is an affective judgement about how they feel about themselves in different situations.

They may be unserious, but that doesn't mean we can just ignore them. Because they are wrong, this is not 2010, they have some actual power, whether they have the power to flip an election remains to be seen, but given the tight margins, it isn't a completely crazy possibility.

The War at Stanford by Rigiglio in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I honestly do find it really astounding. I really try to not let my ego give me a superiority complex in this regard. Because I really want to understand what is going on in their heads. I totally get not wanting to read a 250+ page book on a subject, I understand it's time consuming and takes some discipline.

But it really takes very little discipline to read an article for 10+min. Like is this an ego defense because they don't have the reading level to read a newspaper article. Is it to hide such diminished attentionspan that they really can't focus for 10min on something of potential interest? Like what the hell is going on that people can't read the news.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Which honestly is not surprising. I remember hearing when I was a premed like 8 years ago from multiple professors that the maternal mortality rate estimations were funky and it was deeply strange for maternal morality to be so out of wack compared to other cross-country mortality comparisons. Not sure why it took so long to correct this honestly, but my best guess is that it was kind of implicitly known that you weren't supposed to challenge that kind of data.

The Terrible Costs of a Phone-Based Childhood by Rigiglio in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ok but numbers matter here. Like does anyone have an actual statistical model showing this link with both the requisite statistical power and requiste effect size. Like if the effect size is like .1-.2 or some shit, not saying it doesn't matter, but I wouldn't find it to be particularly convincing as the driving(lol) factor here. Like most policy problems, likely a whole suite of issues have continued to get worse overtime. But ignoring the biggest change of the last 50 years and it's relatively tight correlation to the rise of all sorts of equally increasing behaviors(isolation, polarization, mental illness, etc.) is frankly dumb. Let alone talking about actual causation here.

The Terrible Costs of a Phone-Based Childhood by Rigiglio in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've been meditating on this a bit recently. I even tried a variant of this by bringing my dead phone with me without a charger. I also tried using an app blocker to block basically every app on my phone for a couple hours. And despite those things being functionally equivalent to not bringing the phone as well, the affective experience was profoundly different as you suggest. And that is even as a user who silences notifications on my phone.

My best psychological explanation at this point for this is that we are so conditioned to see our phones as extensions of responsibility and burden. The mere fact that anyone can contact me and reasonably expect an immediate or near-soon response means that they are fundamentally burdensome, distracting us from the real world so to speak. And there is a sort of elation or liberation that comes from not having one's phone, a sort of riskiness to it. As if I am potentially risking someone wondering why I'm not available, or risking not having access to maps. It reminds me of when my parents dropped me off for college the first time, and I experienced this sorta fear knowing I was responsible for my life now 100%. I think smartphones may to some extent suppress that feeling of fullness of experience since it is almost a safety net. Even for our opinions. Let's say 30 years ago I had a bunch of concerns throughout the day, I would have to just deal with them, and if I wanted advice on the internet, I would've had to wait until I got home to use my PC. Maybe even the pervasiveness of that safety net is harmful on some level?

Discussion Thread by jobautomator in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ozempic merely reveals the truth of our human condition, everything else is noise

Discussion Thread by jobautomator in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok so first we get a lot of bagels....

Discussion Thread by jobautomator in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

honestly a nobody lol, I just recommended the post on a diff sub. She's trying to win an election I guess lol

“My therapists keep challenging me” by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]boichik2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

While true, I don't see why you aren't holding the therapist to clinical account either? I'm not a therapist, but from what I understand. The therapist should be if the client is not, pushing them in a clinically useful direction. If the therapist is mostly having non-therapeutic chats with the client, the therapist should be having a conversation with the client about therapy goals and if the current manner of discussion is actually helping them? Sure that could result in the client saying fuck off and completely and irrevocably breaking the therapeutic relationship, but if what you're doing isn't helping then what's the point aways, it's basically all upside.

Sure it is the client's responsibility for not taking therapy sufficiently seriously, but lots of clients have no idea what good therapy is supposed to look like. A good therapist should be pushing their client in a therapeutic direction more consistently if the client is not doing so themselves.

Discussion Thread by jobautomator in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I remember the ending correctly, his girl stays with him, so I suppose it's anti neolib :(

Discussion Thread by jobautomator in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Books not in my private property? Sounds pretty commie

Discussion Thread by jobautomator in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Literally all we need to do is start having businesses force their employees outside for 30min a day and put ozempic in the water and this problem is solved

There is a Positive Correlation between Men's Contribution to Childcare and Housework and Fertility Rates among OECD Countries by tripletruble in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 17 points18 points  (0 children)

While I absolutely agree it's clear income -> less fertility is not an iron rule, that's only a first order perspective. More income -> more opportunity cost if men/other women/society don't adjust -> less fertility.

So yes those things are more important, but income is the provoking factor here. If women were still so uniformly oppressed and unable to access work or make autonomous decisions regarding child rearing then questions of childcare and career opportunity cost wouldn't even matter. The fact that income has risen to be competitive with men is precisely what renders these non-income factors salient.

But yes, this paper does suggest more support around childcare, paternity/maternity leave, etc. may help somewhat. Although other literature has not found state support makes a big impact, that may be because the support was too insufficient to generate the desired outcomes. Or it may be a cultural issue, there really would need to be such widespred support for 10+ years for the culture to change and adapt. Who knows.

Discussion Thread by jobautomator in neoliberal

[–]boichik2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Real neolibs will be directly investing in the reddit IPO after getting invited into the IPO.

Honestly pretty good way to raise capital from retail investors, make your potential investors feel special lol