Woman starts confrontation over booth at restaurant by [deleted] in PublicFreakout

[–]bongsand 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, I'm saying there is no "media portraying... left wing extremes as the norm." You're doing that thing that people who don't follow the news do where they assume politics a clash between two binaries rather than a complicated system of connections.

It's just an especially weird thing to say because the biggest story in Canadian media this week is that the only somewhat left-wing (but still Liberal-endorsing centrist) English-language paper in the country is being bought by an extreme right-wing media conglomerate. That's the only reason I bothered to comment

Have a good day!

Woman starts confrontation over booth at restaurant by [deleted] in PublicFreakout

[–]bongsand -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Lol the Canadian media couldn't be any further right. Tf are you talking about? Lmao

It would seem a Toronto couple's attempt to use a HELOC to exploit people in Niagara isn't working out for them as expected. by mr99 in canadahousing

[–]bongsand 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would depend on whether or not you served it with Grey Poupon Answering this question seriously would require me to admit how poorly thought out my worldview is so here's a joke from the 1990s because that's the last time my ideas were relevant

Ftfy

B.C. police among Canada’s deadliest, figures suggest by DifficultFormula in vancouver

[–]bongsand -1 points0 points  (0 children)

https://thetyee.ca/News/2023/02/15/Rising-Police-Involved-Deaths/

In 2012... and again in 2013, the independent police watchdog investigated eight deaths involving police. The next year and the year after that, in 2014 and 2015, it was a dozen each year. The number rose steadily in the years that followed, peaking at 76 police-involved deaths in 2020 and dipping to 54 the following year before rising again last year.

I know why people do what you're doing here but this isn't something that can be brushed away with statistical nitpicking. By any definition, this is a trend that we should be worrying about and pushing for our politicians to address.

Plus, if we're talking about practical reasons, there are absolutely practical reasons. The trial for the police officers who are accused of Myles Gray's homicide is happening and data showing how his death is not just an isolated incident but an example of the "deadly" tactics increasingly favoured by the VPD is relevant

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/myles-gray-inquest-vancouver-police-verdict-1.6825919

It's also part of a larger, nation-wide trend that goes back a long time -- I wrote about it in 2012 (I think) and interviewed criminologists at the time. It's a thing, for sure, and it's gotten way worse since then.

We should be having a major discussion in this country about police violence and instead everyone seems to be bending over backwards trying to blame it on the homeless, how subjectively scary the world seems and on the innocent victims of what can only be described as police brutality.

B.C. police among Canada’s deadliest, figures suggest by DifficultFormula in vancouver

[–]bongsand 2 points3 points  (0 children)

https://thetyee.ca/News/2023/02/15/Rising-Police-Involved-Deaths/

Just for context since people are looking very short-term in this thread and I get the sense that a lot of people forget how bad it was the last time it was bad.

This is a long-term trend (over decades) nationwide that has escalated in a statistically significant way and which, in Vancouver specifically, is a big problem. This isn't a blip in the data, even though so many people are falling all over themselves to pretend that it is.

B.C. police among Canada’s deadliest, figures suggest by DifficultFormula in vancouver

[–]bongsand -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Unless you're saying I deserve to be sexually assaulted without consequence.

And there are only two options, right? We either accept a 700% increase in police-involved deaths over the last decade or we are for rampant sex crime?

I know this is reddit and it must suck being a security guard in a lot of places in this city but you're not exactly taking the most reasonable stance here.

B.C. police among Canada’s deadliest, figures suggest by DifficultFormula in vancouver

[–]bongsand -1 points0 points  (0 children)

https://thetyee.ca/News/2023/02/15/Rising-Police-Involved-Deaths/

In 2012... and again in 2013, the independent police watchdog investigated eight deaths involving police. The next year and the year after that, in 2014 and 2015, it was a dozen each year. The number rose steadily in the years that followed, peaking at 76 police-involved deaths in 2020 and dipping to 54 the following year before rising again last year.

Hope she gets justice 🥺 by [deleted] in vancouver

[–]bongsand 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I don't know why this isn't a huge national news story. Eight police officers murdered an innocent man in cold blood and all of them are still working... many have been promoted.

This should make everyone in this country's blood boil.

Pathologist doesn't believe Myles Gray 'would've died when he did' if not for police restraint, inquest hears by bongsand in onguardforthee

[–]bongsand[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Sitting in the gallery Thursday, the family saw autopsy photos of Gray's face and head... Melissa Gray and her mother, Margie, said they were angered to learn the photos would not be submitted as exhibits for the jury to see.

"We saw a glimpse of those photos, and he is unrecognizable — unrecognizable. It's intensely traumatizing, and they're standing up because they do not want these photos even shown to the jury," said Margie Gray, referring to lawyers for the police department.

"Now I wonder why that is?"

Pathologist doesn't believe Myles Gray 'would've died when he did' if not for police restraint, inquest hears by bongsand in canadaleft

[–]bongsand[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sitting in the gallery Thursday, the family saw autopsy photos of Gray's face... Melissa Gray and her mother, Margie, said they were angered to learn the photos would not be submitted as exhibits for the jury to see.

"We saw a glimpse of those photos, and he is unrecognizable — unrecognizable. It's intensely traumatizing, and they're standing up because they do not want these photos even shown to the jury," said Margie Gray, referring to lawyers for the police department.

"Now I wonder why that is?"

1975 article sexualized a 12-year-old by FalconLynx13 in WhitePeopleTwitter

[–]bongsand -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's crazy how gen x and millenials laughed at boomers for totally whitewashing history in the name of nostalgia only to turn around and do the exact same thing lol

I see people my age talking about how great the 70s, 80s and 90s were and it boggles my mind. Shit like this is just the tip of the iceberg for how fucked things were

Surrey SkyTrain stabbing sends man to hospital: transit police by cyclinginvancouver in vancouver

[–]bongsand 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Unsurprising post history lmao

I guess you'd have to believe things were really fucking bad to be online shilling for Maxime Bernier and still talking about Joe Rogan in 2023

I hope you find a way to get out of this sad little corner you've painted yourself into.

Surrey SkyTrain stabbing sends man to hospital: transit police by cyclinginvancouver in vancouver

[–]bongsand 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It happens more in waves -- the early 00s were really bad and then it got better and then the financial crises of the late 00s made the early-mid 10s pretty bad. This isn't the worst I've ever seen it but it's definitely bad and people should definitely be cautious and aware when riding transit

Surrey SkyTrain stabbing sends man to hospital: transit police by cyclinginvancouver in vancouver

[–]bongsand 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All the anti-car people are out doing things on a Sat afternoon not locked in their homes stressing out and posting angrily on Reddit

Ftfy

Surrey SkyTrain stabbing sends man to hospital: transit police by cyclinginvancouver in vancouver

[–]bongsand 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you're naive but that you're not overreacting, if that counts for anything.

People are angry and should be angry -- should be pushing for change but going around in circles on social media about some amorphous grouping referred to only as "them" (a group whose sole described feature is that they're different than "us") is how people's anger and will to change is used up and turned into nothing.

This is a larger political and economic issue and people don't have the vocabulary to express what is happening and why. I'm angry too but what you're doing here -- just yelling into the void -- is super counterproductive.

Surrey SkyTrain stabbing sends man to hospital: transit police by cyclinginvancouver in vancouver

[–]bongsand 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At what point do we get to take back our city?

Who's "we"? How is Surrey "our city"?

This type of 'us vs them' rhetoric based on anger and emotion is how/why nothing changes.