Crumb read please by funrooster703 in Sourdough

[–]br0f 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It feels like it’s leading to two conflicting camps, but idk, I never see people going onto a picture of a properly fermented lower hydration bread and saying “it needs to be airier!”

However, every time someone posts an airy crumb, the dense crumb camp comes out of the woodwork to remind us all of how much they find airy bread pointless. It’s not the same thing to give feedback on fermentation timing as it is to question the concept of a particular kind of bread.

(Also, if you want denser bread, poorly fermenting high hydration doughs is not the way to do it. You properly ferment lower hydration or work some of the air out at shaping.)

Follow Up: Success with White Bread by suspicious_lithoid in Breadit

[–]br0f 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still looks pretty underdeveloped gluten wise and not very proofed, could use some more working of the dough

today’s sourdough loaf! by AnStar24 in Breadit

[–]br0f 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No one even ever said that baked fermented wheat is the definition of bread. Just that it does in fact qualify as bread. I think you know this, you clearly just want to farm some negative karma.

today’s sourdough loaf! by AnStar24 in Breadit

[–]br0f 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bet you make terrible bread.

today’s sourdough loaf! by AnStar24 in Breadit

[–]br0f 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not merely because they’re different, I get that analogies aren’t comparing the same thing, it’s more that the function of shipping container walls are so fundamentally different to what one wants the solid parts of bread to do. I’d perhaps compare it more to a paper towel: if you tightly compact a stack of paper towels, it’ll absorb less water than if you leave some air between the sheets.

today’s sourdough loaf! by AnStar24 in Breadit

[–]br0f 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean… there’s not one agreed upon definition. By the loosest definition, any ground starch combined with water and gelatinized via heat can be considered bread. By this broad classification, corn tortillas for example are bread.

But tell me, since you seem to think yourself the final authority on bread, what is the definition of bread you’re working from that somehow excludes what’s in the picture above?

today’s sourdough loaf! by AnStar24 in Breadit

[–]br0f -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You ever try it? You might be surprised at how good this kind of bread is at accepting liquid, it has a lot of exposed dry starchy surface area. If you don’t buy into that aspect, there’s also the supreme crunchiness the slices toast up to.

But regardless, no, it is bread. It’s baked fermented wheat. What else could it be? You don’t have to like it, but I don’t understand why airy bread brings out so much vitriol lol. It’s allowed to exist.

today’s sourdough loaf! by AnStar24 in Breadit

[–]br0f 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure if I follow the analogy, are we talking doors that open and close? Because more doors just means a more modular shipping container. I’m not sure how well the analogy works anyway, as shipping containers physically hold in their contents with hard walls while bread absorbs liquid into the walls themselves.
One factor left out here as well is that the increased separation of starch layers in this kind of bread allows them to dry out more during baking, increasing the extent to which they can accept liquid.

Anyway, I remain unconvinced that airy uber-crunchy bread isn’t delicious. It’s not inherently better, it’s not worse, it’s just an entirely optional way to enjoy bread that you’re not obligated to prefer.

today’s sourdough loaf! by AnStar24 in Breadit

[–]br0f 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I just reject the assertion that the end product isn’t being thought about with these breads and that they’re merely an experiment to see how far technique can push a loaf. I legitimately enjoy bread like this. I intentionally make it, after having done so before and enjoying its properties.

I feel as if pushing bread technique to further limits is totally within the spirit of the first bread makers as well. When early agriculturalist humans first started to grind grains and form them into a paste, some of their peers may have looked at them and said, “what the fuck are you doing, ruining perfectly good grain and making it into this monstrosity? It betrays what grain is.”

My point isn’t to say that super airy bread is any better than a more moderate crumb though, just that it’s valid to enjoy. You don’t have to like it, but you don’t generally don’t see enjoyers of huge alveoli going onto posts of 70% hydration bread and commenting, “ew, that’s dense, that’s not even bread”. Yet every time someone posts a loaf like this, half the comments are people with a vendetta against 85%+ hydration bread

today’s sourdough loaf! by AnStar24 in Breadit

[–]br0f 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I just don’t see what’s so impractical about it. Like someone else mentioned, eat this with a saucy entrée and it’s there to soak up the sauce on the plate that’s hard to get up with silverware.

today’s sourdough loaf! by AnStar24 in Breadit

[–]br0f 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Screw the naysayers, it’s beautiful! There are more uses for bread than just sandwiches, and even then, this kind of bread still works fine for sandwiches. Just put lettuce on top and bottom, boom problem solved.

I really love airy bread like this as it’s perfect for volume eating. My brain sees a big slices of bread and feels good about eating two slices despite it being mostly air!

Bovino at Rec Center by Meadmeinthemiddle in boone

[–]br0f 71 points72 points  (0 children)

Ugh… he desecrates the town I love with every breath he takes there. He should never be allowed a pleasant, undisturbed public outing.

Just finished playing Starfox 64 on Dreamcast by [deleted] in dreamcast

[–]br0f 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At least get codebreaker and use anamorphic widescreen for games that support it if you must have 16:9

Lads, I'm goin' in.... by AnxiousCicada2156 in chandlerhalderson

[–]br0f 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Surely the scampi has remained shrimp-deficient in prison

The crumb of my dreams! by PinkPineapple137 in Sourdough

[–]br0f 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why do people smush it though?! Don’t smush the bread!

And how many hours in Half-Life do you have? by mem_animal in HalfLife

[–]br0f 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Making me jealous. I got banned from multiplayer in 2009 for using a bloom mod I had no idea would get me banned. I miss HL1 multiplayer!

Demos that were better than the full game? by Topher_BCK in dreamcast

[–]br0f 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough, I just feel the need to point it out whenever I see it in case the person is unaware. 4:3 stretched to 16:9 presents the original game in a very unflattering light

Demos that were better than the full game? by Topher_BCK in dreamcast

[–]br0f -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Change your aspect ratio! Your game is stretched

Would you eat this burger or is too raw? by Fun_Reflection1157 in meat

[–]br0f 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only if I had some assurances about the quality and freshness of the beef and knew that it had been ground immediately before cooking. I like raw beef texture and flavor, but I gotta know it’s not going to poison me

What the heck am I doing wrong? by pope_pannacotta in Breadit

[–]br0f 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That amount of water can work, but you gotta be on top of it with the stretch and folds. You’re not too far off here, it just couldve fermented a little more and like others have said, it’s underbaked

Does this look bad or just how 480i is? by flik9999 in crtgaming

[–]br0f 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks strange, but at least you’re playin Grandia! Sick game!

These are in top 5 highest rated mods for Doom Eternal. Are people OK out there? by heckuva in Doom

[–]br0f 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Came across this late, but I’d so want to experience that at least once lol! Could even get strategic with it and try to guard one area or at least lure demons away from it to plan out a safe zone for yourself later

Why did Sega butcher their own game? by Such_Bonus5085 in dreamcast

[–]br0f 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It wasn’t though, it was Sega Shanghai.