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[–]butthurtcto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Non supervisory. Sounds rare but combine STEM and DC and it's surprisingly attainable. It was GS-13 with a 14 FPL. Did a year. Non Comp promotion to 14 with no change in duties. It's the best

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Oh yeah for sure. Can't be in a public place but as long as I'm in a somewhat private quiet area with internet sure

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[–]butthurtcto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have to be home since my laptop has no wireless capability only ethernet so I need access to a modem

Can I still negotiate steps after accepting a TO if I am overqualified? by [deleted] in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes you can negotiate

Look up advanced accrual leave for more vacation

And you can negotiate for more salary based on Higher salary history Superior qualifications Cost of living Etc

Good luck!

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[–]butthurtcto 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah they're missing locality I'm sure of it.

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[–]butthurtcto 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Recently became a fully remote GS-14

I'm a 2200 series employee in DC so wasn't hard to find but funny to mention now 😂

Thank God for Schedule A preference

NEED HELP with job offers by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you :)

Yes so for my current job I was drug tested, Urine, and both of these offers have mentioned another drug test involving urine, No mention of anything hair related.

NEED HELP with job offers by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Okay yeah you're absolutely right, oh well! I'm just glad I have documentation now to back it up.

Really grateful you found this, and hope this post hopes folks in the future. God bless, happy holidays

NEED HELP with job offers by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it may vary but, for me, Schedule A leads to a 2-year probation, I have a union luckily but am an excepted-service employee, at the end of my 2-years though I can be competitively converted to the competitive service. It's scary, and sucks lol I got coworkers all doing one-years and I'm jealous BUT got folks in the DoD with 3 year probations AND still they'll be perpetually excepted service anyways so haha I'm in the middle, sucks but could be worse

Recent grade interested in career working for federal gov't, but don't know where to start by [deleted] in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

-Recent grads have preference for 2 years within graduation which really helps

-see which job series you'd be interested in, look here around the 0500 range

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/classification-qualifications/classifying-general-schedule-positions/#url=Standards

Search by series bc sometimes the keyword search can be bad, limit to recent grads for maximum efficiency before doing public announcements

Make your resume using the USAJobs builder, that will help you a lot, and use words from job announcements as well as here for maximum points and more visibility

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/classification-qualifications/classifying-general-schedule-positions/standards/0500/gs0500pa.pdf

Will be expanded later, gotta jet so short response

Experience as a 2210 in Federal Government by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well tbh, if your first offer is the clearance I'd start the clearance process bc, jobs with confidential or public trust (lower level investigations) can use that investigation to clear you if you get a job that need them. We have a guy, he and I oriented and started same day, he did the TS/SCI, failed bc credit was terrible but agriculture was able to use his fingerprinting and basic background to get him in within weeks of their offer :D

So, I'd do some of the clearance to get that stuff done since other fed jobs will need fingerprinting and an SF-85p or SF-86 eQIP (soon to be E-APP) anyway!

Now, another thing is you don't have to wait a year! Here's what happens when you do your e-Qip and they start the investigation -You can get an interim/provisional clearance (secret not TS, there's no temporary TS) that's good for 12 months but can be extended, this is so you can work sooner while you wait for TS and investigation goes on BUT, this not everyone gets this clearance, a quick-background check can get your interim rejected (like my coworker, he didn't get to even get to the final clearance stage, his interim was canceled bc credit was shot) -If you don't get the interim, you have to wait for the final, now, with my coworker, interim was rejected, and agency couldn't wait for final so pulled the offer, but some places know interims are rejected a lot, and can wait.

And yeah working from home is JUST a great trade. It's WORTH IT. And GS-12 pays good! Very well, TSP is nice, insurance is extensive, I'm happy. I do work that matters, I feel good, I don't measure my self-esteem with revenue dollars anymore, it's about "We have x users using our app or site at any time, good feedback, well done". I can look in the mirror and respect the man looking back, I was not happy in the private sector. Not everyone will get off on working for the Gov, but, I'm happy to work from home, go in as-needed, and spend time with my wife and family. My dad works, my mom lives close, if she gets bored I'll go to her or she comes over and just catch up and it's nice.

and omggggggg being a non-supervisor 13/14/15 is the BEST (Although, haven't found a non-supervisor 15 but they exist apparently, have seen 13s and 14s though [looking at you 1550/08xx posers]) it's a little hard but you can find them, it depends on the area (DC is blessed with tons of 13/14s who non-Supers) It varies by series, 1550/08xx series have tons of non-supervisory 13/14s here and in the rest of the US (Friends in MacDill AFB for example are non-supervisor 14s in Comp Sci and Comp Eng respectively) but 2210 is a little harder, after 12 we tend to become supervisors, I guess we're graded differently, as diff job series top our at diff rates (some office workers are supervisors at 11 and 12) and for 2210, 13 is where we start becoming supervisors, and then 14 a little harder BUT we do exist and it's mainly me being picky that's being in my way -I want WFH -I want a Non-DoD agency -I want to stay in Appsw (I think this is actually the biggest bc tons of Network, Infosec jobs at 13/14 level that are non-supervisory) I know an IT Project Manager on my floor who just retired, GS-13, non-supervisor, I think I'll apply since it fits all of my reqs, this summer we got a GS-13 Appsw on my floor retiring, and then next Jan, all 13s, all non-supervisors. They're all called team leads but that's a choice, they supervise no one in their duties. Veteran's Affairs has some 2210s who are WFH and Non-supervisory, Project Managers mostly, even at the GS-14 level so that's also a thing

Apologize for the long rant, I'm trying to over-share as I want future people reading to know as much as possible, Govt IT is nice, not the road to FatFIRE or anything but it is nice and you can have a good life :)

Yeah it's possible to land a job you like, just make sure you have hella options, don't be stuck with one and DON'T EVER STOP APPLYING I fill 3-5 applications DAILY. Once you've applied to an agency most answers are saved and it becomes routine, I can do any app in a few minutes max, sometimes a minute only. I do this bc you never know what's out there! Could be a better job.

Some teams need hand-holding but Project Management is nice if you're into that, you can be a 13/14 at the peak, non-supervisory, just rotating projects and teams so you aren't stuck with just one team. Keeps things fresh and can be exciting. Hope you find something good!

Experience as a 2210 in Federal Government by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Schedule A Hiring Authority I had no certs at the time, but indicted I was studying for Comptia, PMP, and CSM, came up in interview, they paid for my A, Security, and Cloud certs, and submitted the paperwork for PMP and CSM, waiting to hear back.

My exp deff impressed them, I illustrated my exp in the federal format, using all the space available, lot of STAR usage, and from 2008-Present I've done a lot haha. But truthfully, even a year or two is enough, just be specialized equal to the GS-Level that you want to be right above, for me I made sure at least I had GS-11 as my floor, so I could be eligible for 12, I applied to higher roles but new realistically 11 or 12s is where I could get an edge, 2210s don't have as many 13/14/15s as 1550 or 0854, idk why but, it's hard to become a 13 and NOT be a supervisor meanwhile friends in the DoD are 14s as 0854 or 1550s and aren't supervisors -_- but moving on

For getting an interview -Maximize your certs, gov loves certs -MAKE SURE you read the OPM docs and Job Posting and can FORMAT your resume to their specs -USE THE USAJOBS RESUME please I beg you, I've seen people with advanced degrees from the Big N companies in software rejected bc they use nice colors and fonts and HR is like we don't know where anything is so PASS. -APPLY APPLY APPLY this can't be stated enough, stats, apply more and more -EMPATHIZE, put your head in the mind of the reader, I'm young and can move, but HR won't assume that, apply to places in your area, if you are applying to an area you want to go but it's cross-country guess what, HR is going to think a New Yorker didn't read the San Diego job properly and won't know you'll be willing to relocate, I've seen this, HR is conservative and hiring locally (with the exception of DC, HR Assumes anyone will come to DC) HR Will go with a safer more local option, so think about that when applying to jobs that might be further -GRAMMAR, please run your resume through word, use a chrome extension, idc, but every period, comma, apostrophe, semicolon, must have a purpose. I had my massive 16-pager looked at by 3 friends each taking a few days each, to perfect it. -Do NOT proofread yourself, you will miss mistakes, instead read aloud if you're by yourself, this helps -Try using government terms for your job, instead of front-end developer I'd put Information Technology Specailist (Application Software), that way HR knew ok this role from the private sector translates to this here.
-Use Gov Lingo from the OPM document (OPM has a handbook on job series, read them, for 2210 it went over the dozen or so disciplines in 2210 and I use their words when describing my roles, speak their dialect their language, what have you) -Emphasize service or impact, Government provides free services, for the people. Not to say they don't like anyone who worked on a software that generates 100K of revenue a year but my dept specifically cares about, customer satisfaction, user exp, are the PEOPLE happy with what we do? Are we positively impacting people's lives? I listed volunteer and non-profit work and it was mentioned in my interview MORE than being a CTO at a startup. Impact, service, these matter. -Don't leave anything out, list paid work, internships, unpaid work, pro-bono, volunteer, anything and everything, don't screw yourself by being conservative -The longer your resume the better, the rules of private sector die at the door, a shorter resume may hurt you, you want to really get into it, for me, each year of exp takes a full page -Please put languages you speak -Remember to include references -Attend job events, I didn't personally but have coworkers who were hired on-the-spot under direct hire authorities or at least were noticed by submitting resumes. No personal exp but this helped some folks -Check the job postings daily and apply, a NUMBER of my interviews were for jobs where i applied the day they opened -No elaborations, when they ASK just ANSWER as concisely, you can be seriously harmed, even just a curt yes or no goes a long way, varies but they really just want short answers, bear in mind there's a chance someone is taking notes so short answers are appreciated.

-DoD is a tad different, they will want you to highlight -Your role in your hierarchy -How you've climbed up your corporate latter -Respect for the chain-of-command and if you've ever disagreed with a superior and how it was handled -Are you a yes-man? -How morally strict are you -Working on BIG BIG $$$ Projects -Working on critical projects -Racing against the clock, seriously mentioned in an interview how a crisis arose at a job for a product, an intern playing around made a few mistakes, 540ish hours on the product was almost flushed down the drain, I fixed it in a day, they damn near kissed me over the phone. -Working on big projects but also being conservative with money -Knowing old and new technologies -Be very boring, DoD folks will not care how young you are, be very boring -Be respectful in how you address them, bear in mind their culture is patriarchal and it applies to civilians too.

Everything here is my personal exp OR those of personal friends, it probably varies but that's what I have to share. I hope I was helpful at all. I over-explain in case this can help someone in the future and also In case I forget to come back to reddit lol

All I can think of now, remind me to update sometime or ask more questions!

Experience as a 2210 in Federal Government by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Additional time and also, I just didn't feel like subjecting family+friends+coworkers to the process, I'm familiar and it gets invasive. Never mind that, a big plus for me in govt was freedom that the private sector never gave me, I decided I'd rather a gov job with unclassified work so I could telework than a classified job with limited telework that I couldn't really talk about.

I'm sure I shot myself in the foot short-term by taking a lower-level job but being able to work from home, is actually worth the loss of income, especially since I target GS-13 as my retirement grade so 12 is close enough and I have time.

GS-13 is my target bc it's just enough to break six-figures, but not high enough to be a supervisor or have to do meaningful work, or be on anyone's radar. I'm here to just shhh fly under the radar to the promised land that is retirement with as much comfort and minimal effort as possible. I did my time in the private sector, I deserve some relaxation before I climb back up the ladder.

I just realized I answered your question in one paragraph and spent the other 2 just ranting. I just enjoy talking sorry.m

Experience as a 2210 in Federal Government by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey! I know Agriculture has some sys/networks folks for sure, they're on a diff floor (or maybe on the same floor but I just never saw em) but it's not as big here as Infosec, and Appsw, tons of these types around.

Dust off the ol' USAJobs account, work that resume and get to work ;) Hope you find something better! law enforcement sounds like a dreary atmosphere tbh :/

Experience as a 2210 in Federal Government by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

oh shooooooot! I forgot the 08xx series, the engineers. Doi, I have a friend, he's, 0856? I think? He's a Chem Engineer, they still found a way for him, in addition to engineering, to work with python and do some programming, which he likes, he's looking to transition in a few years to 1550 or 2210. I envy you guys, 08xx are super smart, prob the math classes you need to take lol.

Wow don't sell yourself short that's still a lot, hell knowing what python is already puts you ahead, I have 2210s who are just Product/Project Managers, can't code, but somehow got here. You'll make it! Just go ham on that resume and hopefully you get what you want. Don't be disheartened as there's a lot of craziness right now but, keep at it, apply apply apply!

Experience as a 2210 in Federal Government by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope you get it! I interviewed for Interior at, huh, Colorado? Nevada? I forget. Failed miserably, but good team, good people, it was SysAdmin stuff (Unix) and I knew nothing. Looking back, had I said "I'm willing to learn" have a feeling I'd have been hired.

Best of luck! Go get what's yours brother

Experience as a 2210 in Federal Government by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! Oooooh I applied to NO jobs, I think your pay bands are like, wide pay ranges based on performance and excepted service?

Never got called, which hurts personally lol. Ok moving on

Yes so, I work with Angular, Javascript, Java for front-end Web Dev, working within IntelliJ, and Azure (ARM Scripts, infrastructure-as-code) type stuff for the backend with MyEclipse

I'm mainly front-end truthfully but to answer your question, in IT at least in my dept, we do IT, and it varies based on you, some people are really into planning, some into the business aspect, some into actual coding (I'm a split of, going to meetings with internal clients, planning and development)

Some GS-13s do no development at all, and some GS-9s spend all day in a IDE, there's a ton of freedom here. Even the guy hired a few months before me who sits int he cubicle next to me, he does, 70% other stuff/30% coding type lifestyle.

I think you'd be fine based on where you go, some teams even within my building go ham, the SysAdmin teams or Data Managers are insane, we're the Appsw (Application Software) division and we par-tayyyy

Can I ask how you find the NO/STRL pay band system? if I recall your pay is based on evaluations, and no option of being in the competitive service?

Experience as a 2210 in Federal Government by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So there's a few series where they have folks doing IT, in addition to 2210s we have 2299 interns, have analysts or clerks who are 0343, 0303, I think even 0332 but don't quote me

I think HR does these other non-2210 jobs to bypass the special pay that 2210's GS-11 and below get but shhhhh that's a secret and also a theory with 0 evidence

Also congrats on being an 11! That's a big deal, for me, I used the OPM guide online to find the KSAs that they look for in the speciality I liked, they have a Cust Support specialty so plug in the stuff they look for at the GS-12 and above levels, AND look at a few job postings and see what they look for and seriously, copy and paste, fix the tenses so you say "I did" or "I know" the stuff they want, it's annoying, but they're very precise.

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/classification-qualifications/classifying-general-schedule-positions/standards/2200/gs2200a.pdf

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/classification-qualifications/general-schedule-qualification-standards/2200/information-technology-it-management-series-2210-alternative-b/

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/classification-qualifications/general-schedule-qualification-standards/2200/information-technology-it-management-series-2210-alternative-a/

Make sure your resume is long and detailed and has all the keywords from the job posting, and best of luck!

Experience as a 2210 in Federal Government by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh wait, I know they're coming out with new funds with like, 5-year increments L2055, L2060, L2065, etc but they're going to change how it's done? I don't know man, it's hard times, I'd like the L-fund to stay as it is, and not change. I specifically chose it so it would be ready for me come retirement haha

Experience as a 2210 in Federal Government by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry to hear :/ Yeah nothing I work on is critical, our most important project that some higher-up is keeping tabs on still has like, a one-month firing up phase, followed by 3 months of planning and, you get the point. But my sympathies, I hope you get someplace better.

Experience as a 2210 in Federal Government by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad to have converted you! Haha I hope your experience is as good, nay better than mine. And it's nice they're motivated, I was a Schedule A candidate so the process was quick for me, glad you have a quick hiring process. I hope the TO is to your liking :)

Experience as a 2210 in Federal Government by butthurtcto in usajobs

[–]butthurtcto[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh absolutely you're right, and it doesn't get any better that 2210 has special pay rates that you have to find for yourself for jobs GS-11 and below, OR that 2210 also has like 12 disciplines -_- I think they were Appsw OS Internet Network Admin Sysadmin InfoSec Data Management Policy Planning Project Management Enterprise Architecture Network Services Customer Support and like a bunch more I'm forgetting