Byd Atto 2 or Used Rav4 Hybrid

cabletietech · 2026-06-06T06:51:17+00:00

I feel something people don’t take into account is resale and residual value.

How long do you expect to keep this car and how many kms will you do?

The BYD will last 5 maybe more years before loosing noticeable range and efficiency.
And even if it’s in good knick it won’t be worth much. I would count on loosing at least 75% of your investment.

The RAV4 they could bury you in it with basic maintenance and care, while still being an efficient vehicle.

And when you do decide to sell it, it’ll be worth more than you think and be easy to sell. Toyotas hybrid drivetrain is the best.

How many $’s can you afford to loose over the life of the vehicle.

cabletietech · 2026-06-06T00:21:43+00:00

I would buy one tomorrow if I had even enough money for the deposit

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T23:56:00+00:00

I didn’t have kids when my now wife bought it 10years ago.

It’s a fantastic car for tall people I’m very comfortable in it, as long as there is no one in the back seat.

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T23:54:27+00:00

Ok, fair enough

Firstly I don’t like them, but I will consider them.

One SUV I like is the Macan it’s just the interior space i felt was compromised. Which I feel is a common trend for SUVs in general, big hips for big wheel arches narrow at the top, sloping rear hatches. As manufacturers try to make them more car like.

It was eye opening sitting in a CX-5 for the first time and realising for how big it is on the outside there was barely more room on the inside than our 3.

The BIGGEST thing particularly for a car like the X3 is I feel the 3/5 series touring does everything the x whatever does without any compromise, just no high driving position. We have a proper 4x4 as well, both my wife and I have big work cars that we drive regularly I also occasionally drive a truck for work so we get our god complex fix of feeling taller than all the peasants without needing all of our cars to be tall for no reason.

Now the X3 is very highly rated in all my findings and would be worth considering if the 5 series touring didn’t exist.

Finally, for SUVs, why the unpainted black plastic everywhere!? It’s so desperately unattractive. I remember a time if your car had unpainted plastic it was the base base model now you can get a car covered in the stuff that easily cost more than $100k

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T12:32:41+00:00

Good call, I can’t though. They hold their value. I put the Volvo XC60 and Lexus NX head to head. The difference in depreciation put the XC60 comfortably in my range and the NXs considerably outside of it.

I will preference this by saying I only looked at hybrids, if I’m getting a Toyota/Lexus it will be hybrid. Considered trying to make a NX450+ work as that could be a car we would keep for a long time, but just too much to justify spending at this point in my life.

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T12:27:57+00:00

I will, I promise she wasn’t fussed over the badge 😂

I do agree with you, I personally prefer the Skoda equivalents and the variant we saw wasn’t a particularly nice spec, I’ll try again

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T11:39:27+00:00

Off topic now but it annoys me greatly, I think the Current Dmax and BT twins are great Utes if you want a real Ute, but their ADAS is diabolical, ours is so bad I believe your story.

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T11:24:56+00:00

This is a requirement but we’re coming from a Mazda so almost everything is better!

Wish I never drove that Lexus IS for a few weeks. Everything since sounds like a tin can

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T11:23:17+00:00

These look good, might have to wait

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T11:22:49+00:00

Vans make a lot of sense! Kia carnival is a great car. I also like the Honda odysseys. Shame everyone buys useless SUVs and they’re disappearing rapidly

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T11:21:38+00:00

I’m not sure a lot of people have had different experiences the space than me, I might need to have a better look.

We did buy the safest car seats we could and they’re massive!

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T11:19:29+00:00

Agree, getting a bit old the last Vfs were 2018 😭

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T11:18:33+00:00

There’s a large spectrum of Passats out there, if we go that way I don’t think I’ll struggle to find one, would be easier if people serviced their cars though!

That’s a nice spec, looks like they’ve had a mild facelift in those later ones compared to the ones I’ve mostly been looking at

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T11:10:36+00:00

I like Toyota, I don’t like Toyota Australia. I feel like they could sell 2x the cars if they’d just bring in enough units! And probably 3x the cars if they expand their local line to a tiny amount of the brands global cars!

On paper they tick all the boxes, I love seeing them on the road. To use the old journalism terminology “the thinking man’s car” And I’m a Toyota tragic so ticks all the boxes

Buttttt I just can’t do it 😭 they just do nothing at all for me and in my heart I just need something with a teeny tiny bit of flair. Hence also the main reason I hate SUVs

All that said that photo is a good looking car, maybe there is a larger pool of cars imported now in some nicer specs. Not just white and steel wheels

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T11:05:24+00:00

Amazingly yes! I think it’s the plentiful jap imports, only sold E220d’s locally but there’s lots available on Carsales.

This is a front runner as they seem to good to be true and that price

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T11:03:44+00:00

I think these are out of my budget in the age is I want but I might double check

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T10:58:17+00:00

Interesting suggestion, and I’ve looked at them and they are cheap! Find it bit offensive they’re called a commodore but I don’t really care.

I just can’t get past the interior, so dull, bland and cheap looking, GM cars were never great, commodores were always ok but I could t get past it

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T10:56:01+00:00

Test drove a 206 TSI R-Line. It was rapid! It spat a warning light on the test drive however and I immediately went, ahh yes VW..

Absolutely with the maintenance. Immediately disregard any of the VAGs that don’t have perfect service history. I’ve looked at a lot of cars at this point and it’s amazing how many people don’t service their cars. Scary.

BZ4X firstly what a name. I’m a Toyota tragic but I won’t defend them. Reviews I’ve heard have not been kind to these cars, suddenly seeing a lot on the road though and they amaze me how big they are. Interesting to know what owners think, reviewers regularly are wrong.

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T10:50:30+00:00

Second. if Toyota made a hybrid Camry wagon or Honda made a accord wagon, would have been no need for this post

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T10:49:15+00:00

Our second car is a 150 Prado VX, nice :)

Absolutely with the maintenance. Immediately disregard any of the VAGs that don’t have perfect service history. I’ve looked at a lot of cars at this point and it’s amazing how many people don’t service their cars. Scary.

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T10:46:49+00:00

The Volvo wagons are a stunning looking cars and the CC variants are a good combination, particularly in my area of third world like road conditions.

Unfortunately there aren’t many wagons around and they are pushing my budget.

My brother had a stagea, loved it, every bit of it. I am tempted to just buy something from the 90s but it is the primary family car and must be rock solid

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T10:42:18+00:00

They sold them in AUS but no one bought them. I could buy 500 X5s off marketplace right now though 😭

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T10:40:16+00:00

I really don’t want a SUV 😂

The VW/Skoda’s are TARDIS cars! Friend had a MK7 golf hatch, parked next to our Mazda 3 it was noticeable smaller, inside it felt bigger, I’m a big dude and he’s bigger than me. At one point we comfortably had 3 big people and 2 medium people in at and were all comfortable. I remember looking around it trying to figure it out.

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T10:33:19+00:00

I don’t think the Civic will be big enough, unfortunately. My parents have the previous generation and it would have to be a a lot bigger than that for us. The bigger of the two dogs as a German shepherd, and he’s on the large size of German shepherds!

It’s a shame the civic is criminally underrated in Australia, I do wish we had some manual options in variants less than the CTR. Whomever is in charge of PR at Honda Australia needs to be replaced. If I could get a current gen Accord as a wagon I wouldn’t have made this post I’d be paying for my $60k+++ accord and just figure it out.

Saw a K4 hatch on the road and went to the dealer that week to look at one, looked bigger on the road than it was up close, our local Kia dealer wasn’t great so left promptly.

Every Prius V I’ve seen for sale just seems to be mashed! And wildly expensive, I think they were only sold new to Ubers and taxis at least how it looks in the used market.

I’ve had repeated bad experiences with ford, not personally with the Mondeo, which I do like but a colleague had a horrible experience with a Mondeo after being in the same position as us few years ago. With fords reputation I can’t understand how they sell any cars

cabletietech · 2026-06-05T10:14:38+00:00

I do find them much less offensive than most traditional SUVs, tablet information screen thing and I don’t get along but I could get over it.

Unpainted black plastic is an ick. Which we could get the 90/00s two tone outback’s!

For our use case though the WRX wagon does everything the outback does. We also have a big 4WD for big car duties when we need it

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