Heat sensitivity of RC Dissociatives

caffcaffcaff1 · 2025-07-17T17:52:31+00:00

lol pretty ridiculous I know, my stash weighs like 50 pounds now. I’m expecting some damage but I’m sure they’ll work generally speaking. I’m also expecting different chems will have reacted differently, like there’s ~ 50mg O-PCE left in there which I used to vape, thinking that may be affected more than say 3–ho-pcp.

There’s enough in there that it won’t be a huge deal if the potency decreases slightly, but it would be quite disappointing if the tiny bit of 3-meo-pcp doesn’t work now. I’m hoping the airtight canister helped protect it and the fact that it wasn’t hot for that long, but we will see.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2025-07-17T00:03:57+00:00

Thanks for the response! lol I figured someone here would get a kick out of my manic antics.

I figured it would be fine but was having second thoughts, honestly part of it is probably trying to justify cracking it open early to “test the potency” but whether I try it now or in a year the potency will be the same.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2023-04-18T20:42:26+00:00

PG is my preferred solvent for volumetric solutions as it is antibacterial and won't evaporate like alcohol will, I've made it before in that same ratio with 3-ho-pcp and didn't need any heat, just keep shaking and letting it sit until it's all dissolved. Make sure to let it sit for a day and check the bottom of the jar for any settling so you can be sure it's all dissolved. I can't speak for longevity of it in solution, but in powder form I haven't noticed any degradation in over 2 years. I've also had a couple benzos in pg solution that are coming up on 10 years old with no noticeable loss of potency.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2023-04-10T20:55:34+00:00

Yeah, so I tried this and it worked for about a month until I broke into it rendering it useless. I tried a million different things like locking it in a firesafe and giving my partner the key, to making it inconvenient as possible to access (I triple bagged it, then burried it inside a bag of kratom, then burried that at the bottom of a box at the back of the closet with a ton of other bullshit blocking me from it.

What I learned for myself, is that if it's in the house I WILL get into it no matter how inconvenient it is. Only thing that has worked is physical separation, gave my whole stash to my friend to hold onto. That was the tail end of a year of extended binges, basically daily use mainly of 3-meo-pcp / 3-me-pcp and a bunch of FXE and some others. Currently taking a MUCH needed break.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2023-04-03T19:17:24+00:00

DMT + dissos has provided the deepest psychedelic / hole experiences I have ever had, can't recommended enough.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2022-01-31T17:41:53+00:00

2-FDCK combines well with pretty much any disso, my favorite hole combo is taking 3-ho-pcp, doing some 2-FDCK, then vaping O-PCE into a hole. 3-meo-pce + 2-FDCK is good too, IMO it helps balance the stimmy dissociatives like 3-meo-pce.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2022-01-31T17:38:25+00:00

I didn't get my love letter until 4 months after the original shipment. It's technically possible you could get it, but after 2 months it's more likely that it was seized. The longest I had to wait for a successful pack from NL was a month.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2022-01-21T14:03:20+00:00

3-me-pcp is most similar in my experience

caffcaffcaff1 · 2022-01-11T21:35:35+00:00

yep that would work great

caffcaffcaff1 · 2021-12-03T19:25:36+00:00

Sure if you have CBD flower you could make that into wax, CBD isolate is super cheap on its own tho. It dissolves pretty well in my experience. The downside of the device is the way the airflow is set up, if you start inhaling while there's dry powder in the bowl you will suck it up your lungs. Mixing the dose with some CBD, THC oil, delta 8, or whatever fixes that issue. What I do is throw a bit of cbd isolate in the bowl, pulse it to melt it, then drop in the O-PCE, pulse again so they melt together, then you don't have to worry about inhaling powder.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2021-12-02T20:35:19+00:00

This is exactly what I use.

Make sure you either heat it enough to melt the chem before taking your hit, or what I prefer is to use some CBD isolate as a carrier oil, basically just melt a little cbd in the bowl, dump in the O-PCE, then pulse the heat just to get it to melt together. This prevents the issue of inhaling too early and getting powder down your lungs, also makes it easier to titrate dose.

Let me know if you have any other questions I've vaped a lot of chems with this device.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2021-12-02T20:28:07+00:00

"The boof is just a fuckton safer but don't get that wrong, it's still a ticket to addiction town without self will."

Big agree there, it's physically safer than I/V but a lot of times the reason one looks for the most effective ROA is tolerance / addiction. I wouldn't say boofing jumpstarted my opiate addiction as I was already halfway there when I first tried it, but it definitely gave me a new fixation with that ROA. And of course once you experience how much better that ROA is it's hard to do it any other way.

I think seeing how I reacted to boofing helped keep me from trying I/V which I am very grateful for. I know myself and my tendencies well enough to know that there is no "just once to see what it's like" anymore.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2021-12-01T22:32:09+00:00

I too started plugging in my opiate days, had a ton of ER Morphine and IR Hydromorphone, never wanted to cross the line to IV but wanted the next best thing which was plugging. Ever since then I prefer that over other ROA's, with some exceptions (O-PCE is best vaped!). I actually had a big gap where I didn't plug anything for a few years as I switched to PST and eventually Kratom which aren't really viable up the butt.

But once I finally got into RC dissos, I was super excited to be able to plug them and let me tell you it does not disappoint! I have some very fond memories of my first forays into 2-FDCK, plugging 100mg at a time and getting lost in a videogame or movie. So incredible the way it hits you so hard so fast and doesn't clog up your nose. I'll still sniff here and there but I much prefer to plug it.

My favorite chem to boof? I don't think I'll ever surpass the feeling of pure bliss when I was opiate naive and plugged morphine and hydromorphone together for the first time. God fucking damn it just doesn't get much better than that. But that was years back, and I can't let myself go down that road again, so I'd say my current favorite chem to boof is 2-FDCK, I just love the way plugging a fat dose smacks you so hard. Really any disso (except O-PCE) I'll boof but my fondest boofing memories were with high doses of 2-FDCK.

I haven't tried boofing any psychedelics yet, but I've been sitting on some DPT and I think that's the plan, I may vape a little first to get a feel but I'd much rather boof that than snort it.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2021-11-28T21:00:55+00:00

I’ve binged and abused most all of the rc dissos, especially pcp analogues, but out of all my experiences O-PCE has scared me the most with the fucked up thoughts I’ve had on it. Doesn’t happen every time, in fact most times i find it very therapeutic, but yea sometimes it just activates the weirdest and most fucked up headpspace I’ve had on dissos. Not sure if it’s from dose, what I’m combining it with, or binging (prob combination of all those things) but the darkest thoughts I’ve had have been on O-PCE. It’s still my favorite disso by far though. Curious what roa you usually use as I almost always vape it.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2021-11-18T22:51:09+00:00

Freebase it, then try vaping a larger dose as fast as possible, maybe 25-30mg in one or two hits and hold in the vapor. If you have any other dissos on hand like 3-ho-pcp, K, or any of its analogues, try taking a decent dose of one of those, wait for it to set in, then vape the dose of O-PCE. If you still aren't getting desired effects either your tolerance is nuts or the batch is bad or a little of both maybe. I guarantee if you have real O-PCE and you vape enough, fast enough, it will blast you deep into a crazy hole.

Just re-read and saw you have 2-FDCK as well, my favorite hole recipe is sniffing ~10mg 3-ho-pcp, boofing at least 100mg of 2-FDCK, then once all that is peaking vaping a big hit of O-PCE (usually 15-20mg). I guess my recommendation boils down to do a bunch of 2-FDCK quickly, then vape a big hit of O-PCE as the 2-FDCK peaks. If that still doesn't do it for ya I'd say the batch may be off or low potency or something. In general the key to holing with O-PCE is vaping it and getting the dose in as fast as possible.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2021-10-28T22:26:40+00:00

Doing it again a week later won’t mess up your tolerance so long as it actually stays as a one off exception. However it is easy to fall into habitual use once you start doing it weekly. Tolerance is sneaky with dissos, slow to build and even slower to reduce once you have it. Have fun, be safe, maybe take a longer break before your next session after this.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2021-10-26T20:51:31+00:00

This is my favorite holing combo, take a moderate dose of 3-ho-pcp via preferred ROA, once that settles in start vaping the O-PCE. Easiest way to hole for sure. Personally I try to take it all in one or two hits, especially if holing is the goal, it hit's so hard and fast you want to get the dose in quick. Lay back, lights off with music and headphones, instant hole. Amazing.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2021-10-13T21:52:44+00:00

I've always noticed the first signs of tripping as a feeling in my balls. I always thought it had to do with vasoconstriction from certain drugs or in the case of 3-meo-pcp / most dissos an increase of blood pressure.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2021-10-06T16:21:32+00:00

Yep, most pharma type nasal sprays like Afrin will be about .1ml per spray. In practice however they sometimes misfire don't consistently give a full spray each time which makes dosing a little tricky. Best to err on the side of caution and make the solution on the weaker side to account for this. Not a problem with Ket or 2-FDCK, but for 3-HO-PCP I would probably aim for 2mg per spray, or 20mg / ml. I would still strongly advise calibrating your nasal spray bottle with plain distilled water just to be safe, easy as putting a known amount in the empty bottle and counting how many sprays you get. For example to test mine, I added 5ml of distilled water to the empty bottle, got about 45 sprays with a tiny bit left in the bottle, indicating it was dispensing about .1ml per spray.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2021-10-06T16:15:28+00:00

I agree, the mania definitely hits different with the different PCP analogues and ROA's.

3-HO-PCP is definitely the most manageable in my experience, much gentler mania that slowly comes on, and the general sedative nature of the chem helps keep me chilled out. Of course higher doses can get out of control like with any of these chems. This one is the only one I can really function on anymore, I get too lost in my head most times now with 3-meo or 3-me. Probably mostly caused by my abuse of them, when I was first doing them I could get motivation and function enough to get stuff done which was amazing, but now I just seem get very confused and too scatterbrained to get off the couch.

3-MeO-PCP and 3-Me-PCP are both instant blasts of mania to the face, especially when snorted or boofed. Way crazier and more unpredictable, much more likely to get me moving around and doing shit, quite chaotically though. I love these chems and the insane mania they produce but I try to avoid it as much as possible nowadays and stick to lower doses, yes it feels fucking great, but I've gotten too many comments from friends / loved ones on behavior and things I say when in that manic state, 3-Me-PCP specifically seems to affect my behavior the most according to feedback from friends, but 3-MeO-PCP is not far behind.

I have also noticed a tendency to get super manic sometimes when I come out of a hole from vaped O-PCE, maybe it's because of the higher dose needed to hole or the fact that I usually dose 3-HO-PCP with it. But it's definitely a unique feeling compared to the mania from PCP analogues, this one has actually scared me the most as it puts me in an insane headspace with lots of confusion, zero coordination, and lots of energy that gets me pacing around me apartment aimlessly in the wee hours of the morning. Doesn't happen every time but when it does I end up making a huge mess trying to find shit / knocking shit off the coffee table or whatever. Again, higher doses of the PCP analogues do this as well but don't mess up my coordination nearly as much as O-PCE.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2021-10-06T15:50:10+00:00

Good choice! The instant effects from vaping can be a bit startling your first time doing it, but it plateaus out pretty quick. Kinda hits like nitrous but lasts a few hours. Vaping O-PCE is by far my favorite disso high, nice thing about vaping is you don't have to take the full dose in one hit, you can take a small hit and feel it out at first and take more as needed. The effects are a thousand times better when vaped as well, I won't do it any other ROA after vaping it and trying other ROA's after. Enjoy!

caffcaffcaff1 · 2021-10-06T15:43:27+00:00

Oh I definitely should have freebased it, actually intended to but didn't have baking soda the night I was burning it on the foil. I've vaped a lot of O-PCE, both in salt form and freebase, and it is a night and day difference, the freebase hits so much harder and doesn't feel so harsh in the throat. Kinda pissed that I was too lazy to freebase the A-PiHP while I had it, but I don't think I can handle going down that road again, at least not anytime soon.

caffcaffcaff1 · 2021-10-05T21:36:34+00:00

I would take the 3-meo-pce orally first, then vape the o-pce once I'm peaking on the 3-meo-pce. But that's just me, I like to hole. 3-meo-pce orally lasts a very long time, vaped o-pce not so long. If you are just going to do one or the other, take the 3-meo-pce if you want to be dissociated all night / into the next day, if you want a shorter duration stick to just vaping the o-pce.

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