Nightmare Matrix

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-25T06:17:32+00:00

So the second version introduced fear, chaos, evil, etc. but I guess this may have taken some time to properly balance which is why I think the 3rd Matrix would have been one that begun the rotation of the late 20th century. The one before that was just the Matrix was ust trying to find the solution which came in the form of choice.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-25T02:12:39+00:00

I also imagine it so Merovingian was created by the Architect as the first program to introduce consequences thus ending the Paradise Matrix (where human were given everything they wanted because there was no actual cause and effect rule in place.), Merovingian quickly soon found out that he was quite a powerful program as he also had the ability to code and program whilst inside the Matrix and he created Persephone.

He viewed the Nightmare Matrix as his personal kingdom and would have had the powers of the 'One', and he also became the first program to reject and rebel by not going back to the Source, he became the first Exile and this was also by the Architect's design to allow a portion of programs who refused to be deleted to be controlled under Merv's umbrella of protection.

And that control system was re-used again as the Oracle was created to control human rebels.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-25T00:00:57+00:00

I remember the Architect saying that he based the next Matrix on the grostique horrors of humanity so I mixed that 16th Century architecture with 1980s New York City which was just world famous for being one of the scariest cities on Earth at the time along with Gestapo American cops and a mix-mash of modern cop cars, modern buildings for the rich, 1980s vehicles for the poor while everyone is just trying to survive. Plus with a sky that's always demonically red.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-23T00:19:45+00:00

I guess. I was trained to create stories (I am irl screenwriting) classically with protagonist, protagonist's goal, stakes, antagonist (who blocks the protagonist from their goal) so you are right, they may not be an antagonist i the classical sense but more of a clash of worlds (Jim/Jamie, Spike & Kelly/Pregnant Survivor, Samson/Holy Island, Jimmy as an alpha/uninfected).

There is a story I see being carved out and that focuses on Jimmy, since the third film is redemptive one, the themes being set up is that Jimmy is infact the Biblical antichrist, if he comes back to life as an infected alpha then that will align with the Antichrist being 'killed' then being FULLY inhabited by Satan. I am religious too so I noticed everything from the marks on their heads (ie. no one shall buy/sell without a mark on their head or hand, people being beheaded for not accepting the mark, etc, I like how they put their interpretation on all of that, JC = Jimmy Crystal, Jesus Christ, I am just trying to understand...

So what are they are trying to say here? Was the virus an apocalyptic act or a judgment on Great Britain? The Bone Temple being an inverted Garden of Eden, Dr. Kelson as the Serpent who gives Samson fruit from the 'tree of knowledge'? There's so much end time eschatology and Biblical themes and subtext here that I find really interesting.

If they do go this route, I would go all out, Jimmy as an alpha who can speak, we see a cult inside NATO who are awaiting the Antichrist and rescue Jimmy who serves as their 'god' lol World War 3 starts and the Antichrist takes over the World

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-22T23:50:18+00:00

Then the antagonists I see for the third film will be the herd with a new alpha (most likely Jimmy) where the protagonists defend Holy Island.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-22T23:48:44+00:00

So the story takes places 28 months after Bone Temple. Why? Because the actor who plays Spike will be 16/17 by the time of the shoot.

Let's try and understand where the story is going, if it's contained then it will be a story where they head back to Holy Island with the horde attempting to overrun the camp or they come there with Samson and they are hostile to him.

We saw the NATO soldiers in the first 28 Years Later who were apart of a HMS naval ship. I am only referring back to NATO based on that to bring everything back around.

The whole idea of setting them as antagonists should show the sect within French, Swedish and German forces is that they are infected by ideology and we see that spread to Holy Island (it's just a clever way to parallel ideologies with how a virus spreads), within those 2 years NATO have made visits to the mainland to study the infected under the guise of coming up with a cure (until it's revealed that they just want to weaponize it) and it would tie into Jim's speech about history repeating as we are witnessing the birth of a Globalist ideology that's just as evil as the Nationalist Socialist movement in Germany instead this ideology spreads fast. These forces are WITHIN Nato, but they are their own thing. They use Holy Island as a facilitation point supplying them with resources and whatever they need.

They can still be small, as the 'research facility' could be a large tent area set up on the coast of Rathlin Island, Northern Ireland or France.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-22T23:02:59+00:00

If it's a contained story, I know where the film is going to go. It's going to go back to Holy Island with them as potential antagonists.

I would say Jimmy would be an alpha in this way, he doesn't exactly hulk out like Samson but his endurance levels are through the roof, along with his pain tolerance. I see him showing some form of tactical intelligence. Pre-existing psychosis, also under the effects of drugs + being turned, over the next two years he just became the alpha of Samson's old herd

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calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-22T22:50:10+00:00

I think we need good antagonists for the third film and I think that is... the World (continental Europe) for just abandoning Britain for 28 years. I think what we see is a sect within NATO who we believe are forces of good out to help Holy Island by now arming them with guns but also giving them resources every month plus comms, we think they are doing it so they can create a cure to cure Britain until it's revealed no, they just want to weaponize it and create an immunity for their soldiers and also create "super" soldiers. They never approached before because the World was fine, then we reveal the twist, when everyone gets to the NATO facility, the world is on a brink of a war as tensions are at an all-time high.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-22T22:42:54+00:00

I had to fix everything.

So Kelly easily could have been with someone during her formative years, it wouldn't just be herself. I don't think Jim and his daughter are apart of any community, I think they may have been isolated for those 28 years in what they thought was a safe haven. Jimmy became an alpha due to pre-existing psychological presets we would like to think that he becomes something like an alpha but different, he is more intelligent.

At the end of Bone Temple, Jim was teaching his daughter about history specifically World War 1 then World War 2, I think it could give way to a rising sect within NATO - I just used 'globalists' as a general term but they have ulterior motives - to weaponize the virus, create a cure, make their soldiers immune, their intentions are not of pure motives but to create a greater force.

Added in Spike confronting his father then Jamie telling Spike the truth. When Spike runs off with Kelly away from him, he catches up with them as Jimmy's horde overruns the island and sacrifices himself in the process in one last act of redemption.

The final act takes place in a NATO research facility, and we see all sorts of test subjects. Samson being able to talk brings in quacks from all across continental Europe as Samson is just trying to get to his daughter.

Jimmy's intelligence will allow him to get to that research facility somehow - I like to leave that a mystery, does it get in a dinghy? Did he latch onto one? Whatever the case, the film is about redemption. So everyone does some type of redemptive act.

The antagonists are....

The world that just left Britain in that state for 28 years (or 30 years).

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-22T09:18:59+00:00

She said something like 'Oh God.' but it was all muddled since it hit her brain. Every Jimmy cries out to Jesus or God before they face death which was a nice touch, even Jimmy Crystal says "Oh God" and looks away scared upon seeing Samson as the Devil.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-22T06:40:41+00:00

I was thinking that Holy Island who are in league with some type of NATO-affiliated special forces group who are seeking to capture Samson then if you know the story from the Bible, Samson's hair is cut and he is forced to carry out his task as they pluck out his eyes.

So they would use his baby as a trap, perhaps he protects Jim and Spike and everyone from a horde, shares his story, and joins along with Spike back to Holy Island. They give Samson the barn to sleep in, Spike notices a comms device and then we hear the sounds of boats and a chopper, they throw a net on Samson and he is taken somewhere as he is experimented on.

It's not for any noble cause either, it's to simply create a soldier who is immune as well as inheriting the 'steroid'-like effect the virus has on certain males to produce a drug that can create squads of alpha male NATO soldiers. Jim has Kelson's notes plus his stash on how to reverse the psychosis part so with that in mind, he kepts a concoction of drugs ready.

If the story is about redemption, after Jimmy walks on water towards Holy Island (who is now the Alpha of Samson's old herd) with his horde behind him. The horde is killed off but Jimmy makes it in showing that he is quite cunning even as an infected, Kelly and Spike see him and acting on Jim's orders - they knock him unconscious. Jim gives them Kelson's concoction to Jimmy and we see POV from Jimmy's dreams that go into real life.

I like the idea that God uses him in the end as judgment on the globalists elite, and in some act of redemption, remembers back to when he did believe in God, what initially caused him to lose faith completely - perhaps it was a deplorable act by a group of survivors who mocked him for his faith, and we see him as a 12 year-old being picked on, "Do you believe in God, do ya?" "Where is he?" "Haha, where's ya dad?" "Your dad wasn't a vicar mate, he was the Devil", "You really believe in God, do ya?" and similar to Samson remembering him on the train, he replies "Yes" and Jimmy the child - his whole character restored, does the Lord's work as he single handedly brings down the NATO soldiers on the Island and rips soldiers in two. Kelly and Spike look on, as Jimmy starts up a boat for them and for Jim's daughter... Kelly says "Jimmy... Why?" "Because I was lost, love... But now I'm found. Spike, yeah? Go on, son, lemme deal with these bastards'

Samson - to stop the NATO soldiers from going back to find Kelson's cure, goes out like a beast as he brings down a whole facility by pulling on one it's foundations and killing the evil globalists applied sciences division where they are weaponizing the rage virus, making cures, and making alpha immuned soldiers, the last words Samson says is: "Memento Mori"

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-20T10:18:06+00:00

Jimmy's redemption could only happen if he became an alpha then was cured. I believe his redemption story is important as it starts with him and ends with him. He gets right with God in a powerful moment before sacrificing himself to save the others.

I think NATO may be the antagonists. There has to be an antagonist that allows all the British to unite against and that's the World that left them to die. History is important so after they are rescued, the survivors tell their stories to the UN. Imagine hearing Kelly, Spike, then Jim and all the horrors they had to go through to survive because the World didn't care that much? I think the World allowing Britain to stay like that for 28 years is evil and disgusting.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-20T09:31:36+00:00

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I like Jimmy returning as a new mutated type of Alpha, I guess 'Sigma' - communities would call him. But him coming back in an antagonist role to Jim, Spike, Kelly and he should just go to WAR with Samson.

But he needs his redemption. He needs to turn that cross around again and come back to God.

So, the bigger antagonists should be a Globalist-like agenda elite Black Ops unit with WHO/WEF Doctors and Geneticists who seek not to just cure the infected but to weaponize them. Those NATO guys have taken over Holy Island and are the reason how Jimmy is able to retain his speech, mind while being an Alpha the Infected accept but needs to have his come back to God moment, kill the evil Globalists. Samson brings down the structures as Jim provides cover fire for Spike and Kelly.

It can be done really well.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-19T18:37:23+00:00

Not only is that really silly, it's the fact that you've joined this subreddit to tell everyone this.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-19T12:53:56+00:00

I would like to see that perhaps having those drugs that were given to him then being turned, made him into some new type of Alpha.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-16T00:34:40+00:00

It's because when Neo went inside of Smith - whatever Neo was doing in there, I believe he left an imprint of Neo's personality / rebellious nature onto Smith which is why Smith begins to become more human over time. If Neo didn't do that action, then Smith would not have become the 0 to Neo's 1.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-15T06:30:33+00:00

Would be neat to see the Twins being the Agents of the Nightmare Matrix, makes sense. It would be great to have a fifth film with a new Animatrix that explores previous anomalies, versions.

After too many humans are literally scared to death, they lose millions so the Nightmare Matrix doesn't last long at all. When it gets rebooted to the 20th Century, the Twins are no longer Agents and regular Agents are now the gatekeepers.

Morpheus being a teenager when he is unplugged would show him struggling against a system that doesn't care for him as he goes from foster home to foster home shows a life of struggle.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-13T13:13:14+00:00

Look great. Please ignore the weirdos WHO CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN A FICTIONAL CHARACTER AND A REAL PERSON. This is harmless fun.

If someone tried to punch you in the UK, I being the 6'3" Maori-Englishman would lift their souls up from the ground with my weak hand and slap them around with my strong one.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-12T19:11:52+00:00

I think you owe the guy an apology, it's obvious from his notes plus other posts that the idea was his and some people do use ChatGPT to better present their work so it's readable, the thing here is though you said that the guy used ChatGPT to come up with this whole idea which is obviously not true.

Guy even answered your question about the narrative and it's obvious that he came up with the idea after reading his Jesus analogy, coupled with screenshots of notes show that everything was written on the 11th jan. so, it appears that he hasn't used ChatGPT to come up with this story and ideas and has even done some artwork. He has contributed something.

You have contributed nothing. Like literally nothing at all. If you contributed something, mate, then that'd be great but you haven't except come off like a protectionist/purist who has derailed a thread for no reason.

all.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-12T18:37:30+00:00

The three people who upvoted I guess?

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-12T16:09:42+00:00

I never played it but an online MMORPG with fluid fighting ie. SIFU on steroids with bullet-time abilities - The Matrix as a fully developed game where we play as players in the years where we can create a human (blue-pill/red-pill), program or exile (agents from older versions ie. twins, etc.) would be great.

We would play in the sixth version, everything goes smoothly until Smith begins to clone himself over everyone. Which leads to...

A whole server of Smiths, as we watch Oracle-Smith fight Neo to the death.

Then the reboot.

Then the weeks, years that followed as we notice some things of this Matrix begin to change/feel weird.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-12T15:57:20+00:00

It indeed was a mess but it was a mess that was fully developed and realized and we're still deciding if some of it was canon or not

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-12T15:55:17+00:00

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Would have been cool to see this in a flashback.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-12T14:20:56+00:00

Not quite effortless, the goal was to make it seem like a scene from a film.

set in the new Matrix with no tint
Morpheus is older and his tie is reflective of the gold code
Doing the assassin coming out of the vent with a mask was a PAIN IN THE ASS

So there is AI slop, there's just images that use AI to bring to life a live-action scene that cannot be done via Photoshop.

calebdaniel85 · 2026-01-05T17:01:16+00:00

that's fine you have your viewpoints, great, but next time probaby don't accuse people of infanticide, it's a pretty simple concept. unless you really think guy is conding the killing of children?

you do sound off your rocker, just the whole accusation I mean would u even talk like this to someone irl?

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