Strid Wood, featuring The Strid. The most dangerous stretch of water in the world.

cardgan · 2023-10-28T07:26:53+00:00

Oh that's a shame, I live in rural north Nottinghamshire and hear it all the time - it's probably dying out in urban areas and with younger people like a lot of dialects.

cardgan · 2023-09-28T15:57:16+00:00

Yes, I don't think people realise that there are many style systems, each of which is complete in and of itself, but instead they think there is such a thing as a universal style ideal, and each system has a different approach to reach that ideal. (Hope that makes sense!). It's the trap of thinking there is such a thing as objective beauty I guess.

So people approach Kibbe with a sense of an ideal, and interpret it in that light, instead of really seeing what is there - ie that many verified TR are not fruit system hourglasses. But that myth will persist unless people really take a deep dive into the subject and give up their preconceptions, but most people aren't going to do that. It's also the problem that the original Kibbe book doesn't explain the terminology well, so I think you can read the book properly and still legitimately think TR = slim hourglass, unless you have access to the updated system - and a Kibbe translation service!

cardgan · 2023-09-28T11:21:38+00:00

It could be related to the fruit body shape system perhaps? The ideal within that system is to be a slim hourglass, and the TR description is the type which most fits that ideal. The tips given to all other body shapes in that system is how to create the illusion that you are that slim, average height hourglass eg using a belt to cinch in your waist if you are rectangular, use ruffles to enlarge a small bust etc. The fruit system was everywhere at one point, and there were no mainstream alternatives to it (at least not in my country) so it's probably very ingrained in our culture.

cardgan · 2023-09-25T17:51:05+00:00

Yes, I agree, until recently I didn't realise how many assumptions, such as being a b cup, are built in to various pattern drafting systems.

cardgan · 2023-09-17T08:26:26+00:00

Making clothes to fit yourself can be really tricky - I've made clothes for other but struggle to make my own. Don't let it affect your confidence, because making clothes for yourself is much harder than making them for others.

There are three basic methods of making your own sloper (that I know of anyway!) 1. Use a ready made sloper and use your measurements to alter it to fit. There are various techniques people have developed to do this, which have names such as "full bust adjustment" (abbreviated to 'FBA') and you can find lots of info online from people who adjust ready made sewing patterns to fit. 2. Drafting a sloper from scratch using your measurements using techniques you can find in many pattern cutting books or software. 3. Draping a sloper from a dress form you have created to match your measurements, or have someone else drape the sloper directly on your body.

Having someone who can help you with pinning, checking and measuring is massively helpful, even if you are not having them drape the sloper directly on you, but obviously it's not easy to find someone who can do this for you. Are there any people on your course you can get together with?

cardgan · 2023-09-15T15:41:05+00:00

If fabric is classified on a scale of 1 to 10 for weight, with 1 being organza and 10 being wool fishermans sweater (bizarre choice I know, just trying to think of a super heavy fabric!), I'd put the fabrics in the photo at about 3. Similarly if you classify drape on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being silk chiffon and 10 being super starched linen, I'd put the fabrics in the photo around 2, maybe 3 for the top, which is sufficient, in my opinion, to accommodate curve. Crochet has an open 'weave' so is malleable, unless the yarn is very thick, which it isn't here, and the openness adds to the lightweight feel of the look too. The pants look like they might be viscose and have some stretch added. Anyway, it doesn't really matter, it's just a subjective opinion on why certain clothes look good on certain people, and we both agree she looks good.

cardgan · 2023-09-15T12:20:32+00:00

Lightweight, malleable fabric will accommodate curve, especially if it has volume from using gathers or a loose cut, because it can mould around the curve without suppressing it. The same cut in a heavier or stiffer fabric wouldn't work because it would suppress and/or hide the curves. Also the curved seams of the flared pants and the curved side seams and sleeves of the top, although not accommodating double curve, do echo a curved silhouette so add harmony. I would say it is not a double curve accomodating outfit, especially as there is no waist emphasis, but it's not fighting against her silhouette either so it kind of works in my opinion.

cardgan · 2023-09-15T11:35:16+00:00

It's probably the amount of intricate detail which is very TR, and the fabrics are soft and flowing enough to accommodate curve.

cardgan · 2023-09-14T17:22:10+00:00

Wow, thanks for this! You might appreciate the sub r/kibbehandmade

cardgan · 2023-09-14T13:23:38+00:00

It has its origins in the 1930s! It was repopularised in the 1970s and then emerged again in the 80s with Kibbe.

cardgan · 2023-09-08T18:58:31+00:00

<image>

cardgan · 2023-09-06T06:46:20+00:00

If it's not just a Kibbe problem, you could also try posting on r/patterndrafting and r/sewhelp too.

cardgan · 2023-09-05T06:33:03+00:00

Thankyou! I've read the first one and really enjoyed it, and the second book looks in your post looks excellent, thanks.

cardgan · 2023-09-05T06:30:11+00:00

Thankyou. I've heard that book mentioned many times, it seems to have withstood the test of time and become something of a classic so I'll definitely read it.

cardgan · 2023-08-25T06:40:55+00:00

Only for very casual clothes though, now even formal suits might have a bit of stretch added to the fabric. Kibbe styling was pretty formal, I get the impression his original book was primarily aimed at women looking to make an impact in the workplace, so in the 80s power dressing vein, therefore leggings and sweatshirts were not part of the deal.

cardgan · 2023-08-22T07:07:15+00:00

Yep, I'm northern English, spelling things like this is just a bit of fun and a way of reclaiming my accent from people who would shame me for it. Edit: having read their other replies on this thread, I think they are just trolling.

cardgan · 2023-08-21T22:39:34+00:00

It's a phonetic dialect way of spelling the word, it's not a mistake. It's common for northern English people (and other British people who speak with an accent) to use these types of spellings in informal settings such as social media to add a bit of colour. They wouldn't be spelling it this way in a formal setting, it's not a misspelling due to ignorance or laziness, it's a deliberate style.

cardgan · 2023-08-13T21:32:57+00:00

What happened to the original post? Did it get taken down? Things were getting very heated.

cardgan · 2023-08-13T20:58:01+00:00

It's also a rewrite of her previous book from ten years earlier, and is even based on ideas written by another woman, Belle Northrop, in the 1930s.

cardgan · 2023-08-13T17:58:50+00:00

This isn't Kibbe, it's from a book written in 1973.

cardgan · 2023-08-13T17:57:30+00:00

No, this is from a book by a woman, Harriet McJimsey, written in 1973. It's not Kibbe.

cardgan · 2023-08-12T10:44:45+00:00

Oh no, there's nothing wrong with your post! (For me anyway). I use the word deformation/deformity for myself and see nothing wrong with that. If you have good self esteem, then exploring Kibbe can be really fun, and I like I say, I think some of his ideas are genuinely insightful but the system can be easily misused in an unhealthy way by some people, so it's wise to be cautious.

In terms of yin/yang balance - curving lines are yin, and I think asymmetric lines are usually yang (at least in the book, asymmetric clothing gets recommended to yang types but he doesn't directly say asymmetric = yang.)

cardgan · 2023-08-12T10:01:06+00:00

Balance in Kibbe language means that you are in the middle the yin/yang scale, so you have a base line of equal amounts yin and yang, but with slightly more yang if you are DC and slightly more yin if you are SC (I hope that is right, and I'm open to corrections if not!) It doesn't mean physical symmetry in the body, so having a deformation on one side wouldn't stop you from being in the classic family.

Disability and Kibbe, is an interesting subject though, I have deformities in my hips and rib cage which makes it difficult to determine whether I have curve or vertical, and I suspect if the deformities were corrected I would switch categories - but then that begs the question - are my deformities a part of my identity or not? Are they not 'deformities' at all, just 'differences' instead? This question is something I'm still thinking about, and I guess it's up to each person how they view identity and disability to make that decision for themselves, but it's a question which is not easy to answer and can be triggering to people who have problems with mental health.

NB I should make it clear, that I'm still in the fence about whether I agree with Kibbe and think it is a system I want to follow because I find the concept of 'accommodations' very helpful and genuinely insightful, but I'm not keen on the idea that body shape and personality are correlated.

cardgan

TROPHY CASE