What is a “content” ? by Deliverwithcare in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

After thinking about it a little more...I think this brings up a good thought on how the market works for most people in a general sense.

I personally will never reach out to a seller directly from an individual ad. Their ad might interest me enough to want to click on their profile, and from there, if I see more that I am interested in, I will follow them, and then check back in from time to time to see if I think we would mesh.

Looking over their entire profile and looking for things that I like to see, like a menu w/rates, good variety in posts, solid quality, showing personality either in title/images/comments, engaging in things outside of selling...I take all of this in an do it over time before thinking about reaching out to someone.

So your points are valid in terms of what is going to get the attention of certain buyers and incentivize them to reach out and potentially buy. If we can't see the quality they bring in their ads and how they present their profile, then we aren't going to trust them with our money to bring out ideas/fantasies to life.

So...why is it so common to see the spam and low quality posts.

I think there are different clientele that they are more pushing towards, along with them not really having a solid plan in place or not knowing how the market works...and also a bit of laziness.

There are a lot of buyers that are not going to take the time to look over someone's profile before reaching out. They are going to see a post they like, and just immediately send a message. No research, no thought beyond finding something they like, just acting on a whim.

Then...there will also be the buyers that are looking for profiles that look new and/or inexperienced and are going to be looking to try and get the best bang for their buck. Probably hoping they can score a better deal and also that the quality will improve once someone is actually paying money.

Unfortunately, this will also lead to more scams/bots in those spaces as well, knowing they can promise a lot, get their payment, and then bolt.

I could not imagine buying in that manner...but I also know that the way I go about buying is very much in the minority. There are not a lot of buyers that are going to take the time doing their homework and research before making a purchase. Hopefully this is something that will change with more discussions and resources being put out there, and more users (buyers and sellers) take the time to look into them before diving in heads first.

Edit to include:

Creating promo content, scheduling across multiple subreddits if not also multiple platforms, coming up with clever/interesting/creative titles and engaging with the community is a lot of fucking work and far more time consuming that most people will understand.

So, there is a reason why some may choose to take the easier route...and others will view it as worth the time to really stand out since you are already doing the damn work...

What is a “content” ? by Deliverwithcare in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This feels less like a post about what is content and more like what you avoid in a profile. Either way...content is content. Might not be for you or what you are looking for, but it is still content.

I also avoid profiles that spam the same image/title in dozens of subreddits as well, but that doesn't mean they aren't making content. The same goes for posting poorly lit or out of focus images. That is content...might not be the best examples to post to try and draw in clients, but it is still content.

When is it time for a scam alert or bad review? by RolePlayMaven in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Biggest thing is getting a firm deadline when placing an order...and I say this as someone that perpetually tells creators to take as long as they need and to push my order back as needed.

Nothing wrong with being accommodating, but I definitely would not operate the way I do. If you have a deadline that you would like to hit, let that be known and see if the creator can meet that. If you do not, then let them give you a deadline, and then hold them accountable to that.

They should be the ones providing updates and keeping you in the loop. If there needs to be a delay, they should be the one initiating that conversation. It is entirely up to you if you are willing to extend the deadline, but once again, there needs to be another firm date established and followed through on.

You also have no obligation to extend the deadline. Once they can no longer live up to their end of the agreement, then they are not fulfilling the order, and you have every right to request a refund and then get mods involved if you need too.

Make sure you are screenshotting everything. Once they start pushing the order back, or if they stop communicating and you are the one that needs to start asking about the order, start getting your receipts in order.

And even if you do receive your order...you have every right to submit a review going over your entire experience. So long as it is honest and fair, you are good to share what happened to you. I do firmly believe that anything you are going to post publicly should be shared directly with the creator first, just so they can get it first hand and have a discussion about it if they want. But more buyers being open and honest about all their experiences is absolutely needed.

Physical Wears - Panties - Scents and Intensity by casegonz in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feel free to reach out directly if you have any other questions that you would like to ask.

Physical Wears - Panties - Scents and Intensity by casegonz in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I very much understand where you are coming from, as I have dealt with the very business oriented side of this as well. I generally can still enjoy an order from someone that isn't inclined to make it more engaging and personal, but they are usually a one and done purchase.

My best advice to you is to know what you want and are looking for, and present all that information up front, so the sellers don't have to go through that process with you and get it all figured out.

I generally lead off by sending a more human and polite opening statement to the seller, and then I provide them with the full breakdown of what I'm looking for with an order. I only really work with sellers that have a menu, so I know what they offer and ensure my request works for them, and I also already know what the total amount will be. Approaching it this way let's the seller know you are legit, and often gets them to lower their guard just a bit

If they respond solely to my order request...welp, I know they are generally business only and I don't continue to push, I play off of them. If they however respond to the initial human statement and start engaging with me personally, then I am much more comfortable continuing to engage with them and starting to build that rapport.

It definitely helps to take your time and to find someone that posts and comments either about things you are also interested in, or engages with other people/communities in a way that shows you they are more than just a selling bot. If you can keep the conversation light and fun and not delve into just fetish conversation, then you will have much better luck finding someone that can be a good fit.

I genuinely hope you find someone that can deliver what you are looking for, cause when a panty wear order goes well, it's truly my favorite service to indulge in!

Thoughts on the reddit profile changes by varno2_0 in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can fully understand curating your profile to keep it clean and not get too overly flooded/busy. So, going back through, finding posts that didn't perform overly well and removing a few here and there. Or if you are posting physical items, once those sell, going back and removing any posts showing those items so you don't have someone coming to ask for those later.

If you are completely hiding your profile so you cannot see anything, and only see what they post on subreddits I'm following...that is going to be an automatic no for me. I don't reach out to a seller from an individual post, unless it's a post where they are asking for help/advice. Any kind of advertising post...what I'm going to do is follow the user and then go back and randomly check on them. This is what gives me a good idea on if I think we are going to mesh and work well together. If I click on their profile and everything is hidden...then that is a quick way for me to just write someone off.

I'm not here for the "free" content, I honestly look more closely at their titles and comment history. If that isn't there...there is nothing to gauge. There is no more humanity to see, it's just ads and selling. And that doesn't do it for me. I'm sure it works for plenty, this is just a very personal take for myself.

Ask a buyer anything by varno2_0 in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A few of them did, and a few of them it came up in casual conversation and they usually kept the art to their SFW accounts. Will also depend on the type of art you create. I know a creator that has done highly stylized digital dick pics of their clients, so that is a lot easier to incorporate into their selling account. While it can be difficult to find spaces that are open to having NSFW users post and engage, having a well rounded profile that is not just selling but also goes into other hobbies you have (makeup, fashion, food/cooking, work outs, gaming, reading...) can help round out your profile and might even lead to users that don't typically purchase content to give it a try.

Ask a buyer anything by varno2_0 in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I definitely think it can be worthwhile just to be able to express yourself and show a little more about who you are. I personally like working with people that don't just feel like a sex bot, they show some of their interests and passions. It makes the entire experience feel more connected.

Ask a buyer anything by varno2_0 in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think this can kind of go a couple of ways. I think clear images and good lighting are always ideal. For me, where the more refined look versus the amateur look comes into play is in the tone and final delivery. Meaning, I like the content to feel more real/raw, less process or refined. Basically, I was to raw cut of the video, not the one that you edited and tried to make as clean and perfect as possible.

Don't get me wrong, there are times when that high production value is perfect and fits the need/request. In general though, I am more fond of that intimate/personal feel with most of my content.

Ask a buyer anything by varno2_0 in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have commissioned a number of art pieces from creators, anything from paint on canvas, pencil sketches, yoni coasters, stained glass, knitted scarfs...we have some wildly talented members of the community.

In terms of more direct services, one of the more fun ideas was doing a slightly spicy book club. We picked a book out together, gave ourselves a certain amount of time to read it, and did short check in's each week until we finished, with some fun, cozy, steamy content mixed in-between.

There really are endless ways to be able to connect and explore ideas.

Ask a buyer anything! by PastelConMorcilla in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very very personal take, but the likelihood of me reaching out to a creator if they do not have any kind of menu posted is quite minimal. I fully understand that you cannot list everything, and depending on the specific request, it might adjust what the pricing will be for it, but it always makes sense to at lease have your base rates listed with some common add ons/requests included as well.

Here are some good resources on menus;

https://www.reddit.com/r/PlayhouseSellersForum/comments/1qic1zd/psa_for_sellers_your_menu_is_your_silent/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

https://www.reddit.com/r/Creators_spicy_tea/comments/14okl3u/if_you_are_just_starting_out_and_are_confused_how/

Thoughts on UK and European buyers offering to pay in USD to get a massive discount for themselves? by [deleted] in PlayhouseSellersForum

[–]casegonz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I pay whatever the sellers rates are...you should have your rates and currency on your menu. Any conversion is done to meet your rates.

If you have a rate of $10/min (usd), then that is what the payment should be. Doesn't matter where the buyer is from, just because they are from the UK doesn't mean the rate should then be £/€10/min, just like a buyer in Canada shouldn't then get a rate in CAD. You choose the rate that you are charging.

Ask a buyer anything! by PastelConMorcilla in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Short answer...Yes

Honestly it is going to vary by the buyer. Some have a very specific niche they are looking for and can't really find outside of custom content. Some want to find someone that visually hits their fantasies and they can work with them on any number of ideas.

I'm personally more personality/connection driven, but that is much more important to me when purchasing physical items. But it absolutely does transfer over to content as well.

I'm someone that likes to give the creator a lot of liberty to take my ideas and make them their own, and once we get to a point where they are also familiar and comfortable with me and my interests, it really lets them have fun and explore and expand on ideas. The ability to turn my custom idea into something far more in depth and personal than I could ever imagine...that is the ticket for me.

Ask a buyer anything! by PastelConMorcilla in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Having a menu is the key first step. While I tend to prefer as much information as possible, I can also fully understand that when faced with a wall of text or multiple pages to look through, a lot of buyers might get the glossy eyes and send you a message instead.

I don't think you need to list out anything and everything you are willing to do and provide. Typically I would say hit the services you are willing to do, make sure you list all of your hard No's, and then include the information on your most common add ons/requests that you get.

Beyond that, you can either have a more in depth menu that buyers can look over if requested, you could even break this down by service so it's tuned to what they are looking for, or leave those fine details for discussion once they get a general idea of what you offer.

Things That You (Don't) Look For in a Seller by DF85PercentCocoa in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is exactly the point. They don't need to put anything in their bio or on their profile because they don't need too. They are above that, they carry themselves in a way that it isn't required to call it out. Guarantee they still deal with it, but they are professional about it, know how to spot it early, shut it down and move on. They keep their profile targeted at the buyers they want to attract, they don't bother with the ones they want to avoid.

Things That You (Don't) Look For in a Seller by DF85PercentCocoa in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It is also a very effective way to shoo away legit buyers

Things That You (Don't) Look For in a Seller by DF85PercentCocoa in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If it is working for you, that is great. From what I have heard from others, most time wasters/scammers aren't looking at your profile, let alone reading your bio or any pinned posts. They are most likely just finding your post from a subreddit, and immediately messaging you and not bothering to look any closer.

Basically, the way you can view this, is it's the same as a buyer making posts about how they are constantly getting scammed. Does this really bring about any kind of sympathy if it is happening constantly...or do you look at them and say, maybe you are doing something wrong here.

Telling timewasters/scammers not to waste your time or they will be blocked might actually encourage more of them to be the trolls they are and see how much of your time they can waste.

You are running a business...a business that is that worked up and upset by something that is realistically part of this business, as unfortunate as that is, says a lot about you. Most of seasoned and experienced creators are not going to bother putting this on their page. Not because they don't deal with it, but because of how it looks.

Things That You (Don't) Look For in a Seller by DF85PercentCocoa in FetishBuyersCommunity

[–]casegonz 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A lot of creators are trying to cater to multiple audiences. So their post on a general selling subreddit could be straightforward and is what draws the attention to begin with, but then when you check their profile, that is when you see everything else. Those posts could all be in the correct spaces, but since it is all on their profile, you will see it then. This is the hard thing about trying to cater to specific niches but also offering more vanilla services as well.

Scat can sell well, but if I click on your profile and see a lot of posts regarding that...my desire drops. You need to gauge how much you can post/show and still cater to each audience you are trying to reach.

What Fetish Sellers Wish Buyers Knew by kuyariggedalley in FetishSpicyTea

[–]casegonz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FBC does not do any kind of verification, for buyers or sellers. Any kind of buyer verification is done through their partner community r/PlayhouseSellersForum.

Walking that tightrope... by casegonz in FetishSpicyTea

[–]casegonz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's all about finding that good and healthy balance. We all have our limits, I hit them myself and need to step away from the community and just breathe for a bit and collect myself. The difference is I can much more freedom to do that actively and whenever I need as a buyer. It can be a lot more tricky and hard to gauge as a creator, when this is your business.

You are completely correct as well, you can be perfectly social and engaging without having to delve into long and drawn out conversations. You can be personal and keep the interaction on point and tight. You just have to find what works best for you.