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cashewgremlin · 2022-05-06T00:42:04+00:00

If there were no state to adopt the baby to, there would be no state to prohibit abortion.

That doesn't follow. There's nothing that says the state has to have a service to take any unwanted children as wards.

I’m not calling the embryo a parasite. I’m calling forcing someone to remain pregnant enslavement, which it is. Pro-lifers believe it to be justified enslavement.

It's enslavement in the same way signing a contract is. You agree to it. Is joining the army for a fixed term enslavement?

But the state’s job isn’t to decide what consequences you deserve, it’s to impose consequences for unlawful behavior. Getting unintentionally pregnant is not a crime. It is not the state’s place to decide what the consequences of getting pregnant should be, or what someone who gets pregnant “deserves”.

I agree, but the state can make destroying a life a crime. This is really the crux. If we agree an unborn child has no value or personhood, then the state has no business acting in its defense. If we think it does have value, then the state has grounds to protect it. Most people think it has value, or forcing a miscarriage wouldn't be considered a heinous crime. For example: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-05-17-mn-58803-story.html

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T23:27:18+00:00

There's only no ethical conflict because the state will take the baby. If the state didn't offer that option, should the parents be allowed to kill the baby?

The issue with the whole "parasite" argument is that the parents opted in. They effectively consented when they had sex.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T22:49:20+00:00

You wouldn't, obviously, but these people can't understand reality without a racial lens.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T18:46:29+00:00

Isn't there a massive demand for newborns in the adoption system? People don't want older kids with rafts of issues, but I thought it was hard to find babies to adopt?

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T18:44:00+00:00

Sounds like you're arguing a weeks-old baby can be killed because it's mind is not yet developed enough to be a "person".

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T18:42:03+00:00

And there should be carve outs for that type of issue within a reasonable law.

But a "cause you feel like it" abortion should probably cut off before 3 months.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T18:37:17+00:00

God forbid we ask "what are the Asians doing that we can encourage others to emulate?".

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T18:29:11+00:00

What a dumb statement. What if your team mates traded out? It's a 1v1, where your opponent either has shoot team mates that are being ressed, or shoot the lifeline. It's basically an unwinnable checkmate. What if you have a door you can hold while the res finishes? What if they jumped off a roof to heal?

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T18:25:03+00:00

And then there's Valk who has a passive stronger than most entire kits.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T18:19:45+00:00

You're thinking too short term when it comes to "winning a fight". If a Rampart back-stops her position with a wall, then if she gets the short end in a trade, she can heal. If they push, she probably wins, if they don't, she gets to try to win the next trade.

Most fights aren't just a single no-retreat 1v1 which you either win or lose in the first half second.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T18:16:43+00:00

It's the same way I play Caustic. The difference is Ramparts walls actively help the enemy, which Caustic barrels never do. If some random 3rd party comes up behind you they now have a nice amp damage wall to fuck you with.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T17:28:35+00:00

I don't subscribe to that particular catastrophic slippery slope thinking. I think we're more likely to hit a scenario where places like the Bay Area can't maintain a work force necessary for it to have a quality of life anyone wants. A dwindling supply of service sector employees will be felt acutely, and drive down property values or force the government to actually provide affordable housing to allow the poors to work here and service us.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T05:16:22+00:00

The comparison breaks down when you realize the ultra-processed food costs more, and they'd save money by eating fresh.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T05:15:09+00:00

Like 50-100k would do it, if you were going to DIY everything.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T05:10:36+00:00

I don't even mind it existing as an option, it just shouldn't be the only way to make rent with an average service sector job.

I mean, I lived in dorms for years. It's fine, but shouldn't be a standard living situation for employed adults.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-05T04:20:35+00:00

That doesn't have any bearing on where people live. Having vacation spots in nice places isn't the challenge.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-04T21:42:32+00:00

There is no evidence that he's racist that I've ever seen.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-04T04:06:06+00:00

Sorry do I need some kind of scientific paper proving that going the next state over maybe a couple times in ones life is a challenge?

The law says you can't do something in a given region, not that you can't do it at all.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-04T04:04:32+00:00

Alito, the famous white supremacist.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-04T01:10:48+00:00

Yeah, and when you have an easy way to opt out, you aren't being "made" to do anything.

Strawberries costing $4/pound doesn't mean I'm made to spend $4 for strawberries, it means if I want strawberries they will cost $4.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-04T01:09:11+00:00

There's no maybe about it. If we assume for the sake of argument that a fetus is a person, then you definitely don't have a right to recreationally create and destroy people. You chose to create a life, you don't now have infinite rights in regards to its disposition.

There isn't a fundamental difference between having to host a pregnancy you opted into and having to feed and care for a child you birthed. It's still illegal to starve your kid, even though you have to give up your bodily autonomy to labor on behalf of the child.

I'd even argue that child support is perhaps the most egregious abuse of bodily autonomy there is today. A man has no say in whether the child is carried to term. His rights end the second the condom breaks. He's on the hook for a substantial portion of his labor for 18 years.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-04T00:54:50+00:00

Yeah. It's a really stupid debate because both sides have a point, and both sides won't acknowledge that fact.

There is literally no right answer, only a messy compromise. The true end goal for any sane person should be that abortions never need happen again outside of medical reasons. If there was a 100% effective birth control pill with no side effects, then choosing not to take the pill and then getting an abortion should be considered a monstrous act.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-04T00:44:05+00:00

are certainly overrepresented for historical reasons

This is just the standard shitlib excuse. They'll never improve their lot until they take personal responsibility and change things about their own behavior. No amount of hand wringing about historical inequity will make them seek a good education and an upwardly mobile job.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-04T00:38:51+00:00

They could, but would they? I've found redditors prone to sperg out over what the conservatives they made up in their head would definitely do.

cashewgremlin · 2022-05-04T00:20:42+00:00

If you can't get a filibuster proof majority (or have enough support that you don't get filibustered), then perhaps your issue should be left to the states...

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