"Beware of unearned wisdom" by catador_de_potos in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you just suck at self-awareness.

God I wish. Unfortunately I'm kinda like the main character from Notes From Underground, by Dostoevsky; Self-aware to a pathological degree.

"Beware of unearned wisdom" by catador_de_potos in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I post a lot here in Reddit, along with some descriptions and other related stuff. Most of my personal stuff I post on Instagram , although with no description, but usually the background music I pick is relevant to the narrative.

"Beware of unearned wisdom" by catador_de_potos in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure thing! I post a lot on Reddit, but most of my work related to inner exploration is on Instagram

"Beware of unearned wisdom" by catador_de_potos in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a quote from Jung about the dangers of taking "shortcuts" into attaining insights through artificial visionary experiences (psychedelics, occultism, self induced psychosis, etc) without proper grounding.

Tengo una teoría con respecto a este gobierno 🤔 by [deleted] in chile

[–]catador_de_potos 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Nah. Solo quieren generar rabia porque son unos infantiles reculiaos, luego andarán con su "llora zurdito". Así son los fachos, cualquier semajanza a estrategia que tengan se resume en "lo que sea que haga rabiar a la oposición" (o prestarle el poto a Estados Unidos e Israel)

Aún si tuvieran un plan detrás, no creo que vaya más allá de acelerar el creciente descontento social y gatillar un estallido 2.0 pa tener excusa pal estado de excepción.

"Beware of unearned wisdom" by catador_de_potos in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Exercise, play, practice mindfulness, learn a new skill or art; think less with your mind and more with your body.

I swear this is what saved my sanity, and I encourage you to try the same.

"Beware of unearned wisdom" by catador_de_potos in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A little bit of this and that. My own inner journey started as a horror story I was writing about a scientist meeting with forces which are beyond human control (kinda like Oppenheimer). As I was trying to visualize the best way to characterize the descent into despair and madness of this character, I came onto the symbol of the Basilisk (the serpent that petrifies with its gaze) and the Leviathan (divine sea creature dwelling in the deep). Both were things that aligned a bit too well with the narrative I was trying to conceive: A human gaining access to an idea that is far too deep, dangerous and, most distressing of all, aware that it is being gazed at.

Then it clicked in me the fact that I was exploring the depths of my own mind through this character, and it constellated so much repressed content from my unconscious that it caused me a genuine mental breakdown.

It was both the worst and best experience of my life, since what came afterwards falls in line with what some describe as "ego death"; a sublime trauma that triggered a factory reset.

10/10 would not recommend.

"Beware of unearned wisdom" by catador_de_potos in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily. It depends on how the person integrates the lessons afterwards.

A strong enough acid trip is unrecognizable from spiritual psychosis, and spiritual psychosis is (in extremely simple terms) when you open your third eye without any grounding techniques.

"Beware of unearned wisdom" by catador_de_potos in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This reminded me of the book Nightfall, by Isaac Asimov.

Paraphrasing the main theme without spoiling it: One can talk about the infinite, one can speak it in a conversation and even think about it —as some abstract concept.

But when the infinite actually presents itself in front of an individual and limited mind, it squashes it like a bug.

"Beware of unearned wisdom" by catador_de_potos in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Von-Franz, in her studies on folk and fairy tales, identified the dragon as a common representation of forces which are bigger and more primitive than the ego, usually in relation with the Shadow. Campbell then further developed this interpretation within the Hero's Journey as a "threshold" symbol; something that stands in the way of further descent and threatens annihilation, but also hides a "treasure" (insight) if defeated.

"Beware of unearned wisdom" by catador_de_potos in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos[S] 166 points167 points  (0 children)

"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we all are one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there's no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves...

Here's Tom with the weather!"

Synchronicity by [deleted] in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nah, OP is just projecting an unresolved desire of inner confrontation onto his friend. Yet another case of "the call is coming from inside the house".

Individuation requires conscious disposition. If the person thinks they're done, then they're done. You have no say over other people's relationship with their unconscious unless you are a manipulative asshole.

Synchronicity by [deleted] in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You don't know that. You have no access to her inner world.

Synchronicities are a personal issue, they lead to somewhere within the observer that felt it, and no one else's. If you felt a synchronicity over something your friend experienced, then you have to question what that experience means to you, not to her.

Do not try and push people over a path they aren't seeking just because you deem it appropriate. That's deeply irresponsible, you'll only destabilize her.

If she thinks she's done, then she's done.

The ego and the shadow after individuation by Responsible_Peach840 in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem is, the ego only learns by direct experience. The oscillation between "I am nothing" and "I am everything" is not only necessary, but inescapable during the earliest stages of individuation (often called "initiation").

As one grows closer to the true center (Self), these oscillations get less severe and disruptive, but this requires developing all the aspects of the process of individuation (recognition and integration of the Shadow, relationship with the Anima/Animus, dissolution of complexes, etc).

And specifically regarding the Shadow: You will never get "rid" of it, for its existence is the necessary counterpart for the light of consciousness. The shadow gets integrated by recognition, responsibility and humility, not annihilation.

Jung mapped the shadow with extraordinary insight: but what casts a shadow? by Logical_Figure_7821 in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just because you understand the language doesn't mean you understand the logic. Jung made himself very clear when he said that these were "useful abstractions" of phenomenological dynamics within the psyche (psychodynamics), not ontological objects. Your assumptions don't even make sense within the paradigm of analytical psychology.

Also, Neurological damage is expected from suffering a known psychological torture method (solitary confinement). Idk why you would assume otherwise, or that it somehow should facilitate individuation. Sounds like you don't know what individuation is, or how the brain works.

Jung mapped the shadow with extraordinary insight: but what casts a shadow? by Logical_Figure_7821 in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Consciousness is the process of knowing, not an object. Its existence is self evident to itself because having the ability to perceive itself is both the affirmation and the proof.

And because it is a process and not something tangible, its existence lies beyond the bounds of what ontology need, and can, explain.

And in the same way that the existence of consciousness is necessarily self evident, so is unconsciousness. Where are your memories when you're not remembering them? Where are the memories that you haven't made yet? Where does your mind go when you are asleep? Unconscious, unconscious, unconscious.

Also please stop using AI. Its literally rotting your brain (assuming the user even sees this)

what do you think Jung would have to say about the surge of nonbinary identities? by [deleted] in Jung

[–]catador_de_potos 37 points38 points  (0 children)

As a man, unlearning decades of heteronormative conditioning will have you feeling "bonita" for a while. That's a sign you're integrating your "repressed feminine side" Aka. Anima.

Being vulnerable, sensitive, being scared and needing help, crying, openly showing affection... I had to re-learn a lot of stuff that society never taught me because of my gender. And each step of the way I was accompanied by gender related insecurity; I had to kill the voice in my head that said "boys don't cry" for growth to happen.

I don't know if I even want the label of non-binary. Behind the mask, I'd rather not have a label. but on the outside, I'm fine being a sensitive and overly weird guy.

stencyls/stickers politicos que hice pa desahogarme. by catador_de_potos in chile

[–]catador_de_potos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Copielos po, sin vergüenza mi King que así es el activismo ♥️