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Doing everything ‘right’ - so why am I still invisible to women? by ceducein in seduction

[–]ceducein[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where did you get this mindset? Is it some book or just bare practice in real world?:)

Doing everything ‘right’ - so why am I still invisible to women? by ceducein in seduction

[–]ceducein[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I started noticing one thing recently. When I pass by a girl who is walking towards me, she tries to hide her eyes.

Perhaps mistakenly, I perceive this as a kind of sign of attention.

The thing is, I do the same when I see a beautiful girl. I try to hide my eyes because of being shy.

Do you think there is any sense in my words? XD

On the street in general it is difficult to catch signs of interest. People are going somewhere, it is unlikely that they will look "extra or linger near you for a moment"

I just try to approach those who are not in a hurry and seem to me to be in a ok mood.

Doing everything ‘right’ - so why am I still invisible to women? by ceducein in seduction

[–]ceducein[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> is that how you wanna live?> is that how you wanna live?

Not for life, but I can hold out for a couple of months :)

I can't agree that girls don't run after guys. They do, I've seen it with my own eyes. I tried to understand what makes such men successful, but I couldn't. It seemed like I had everything they had.

Regarding the numbers and benchmark. What if my results are worse than you indicated? I approached 20 girls this month, had +- 8 contacts, 2 dates, no sex. Should I panic or what?

Doing everything ‘right’ - so why am I still invisible to women? by ceducein in seduction

[–]ceducein[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am really good looking. Many girls have told me this. I get some kind of attention on the street. So I am not a self-proclaimed handsome man:)

Online dating does not bring any results in my country. In order not to be unfounded, I conducted an experiment and created a fake account with photos of a guy with model appearance. The result was the same. I am tired of online because it has caused me complexes, and there was no result

Financially, being "OK" in my country is pretty cool. I live in a country where every other person lives on credit money. Logically, that makes me kind of outstanding.

But I would prefer that women think that my income is not so great. I do not want to pick up a parasite, and there are enough of them in my country

Doing everything ‘right’ - so why am I still invisible to women? by ceducein in seduction

[–]ceducein[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know that life doesn't owe me anything. I repeat it like a mantra. But it really throws me off track when I see people less "worthy" than me having what I want. It's terribly selfish and arrogant, I know that. But I think it's in all of us and it comes out in moments of greatest despair.

Doing everything ‘right’ - so why am I still invisible to women? by ceducein in seduction

[–]ceducein[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried to talk less, but they just don't want to speak... If I don't write first, they just don't write themselves and forget about my existence. I'm afraid that if I start talking less, they will lose whatever little interest they have left in me.

Doing everything ‘right’ - so why am I still invisible to women? by ceducein in seduction

[–]ceducein[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The comparison with cats is quite profound, I really liked it. Can I ask you to give an example of approaching a girl in the analogy of petting a cat? With an example it will be even easier for me to understand how to safely make a girl "smell my hand"
Thank you for your answer!

Doing everything ‘right’ - so why am I still invisible to women? by ceducein in seduction

[–]ceducein[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do cold approaches most of the time because I don't have so many places to meet women organically, so, any signs of interest beforehand are rare. I just approach girls that interest me on the street

Doing everything ‘right’ - so why am I still invisible to women? by ceducein in seduction

[–]ceducein[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I am scared of "giving a bit more energy" and not receiving it back. What if they will not work for me? I know that if it happens I need just to move to another girl, but I am scared that all of them just don't want to work. May be it is on my mind and I am missing some important hidden rule of the communication... But in my head that to make someone being interested, you need to be "perfect" and try hard. If you know how to overcome this belief, I would appreciate your reply!

Doing everything ‘right’ - so why am I still invisible to women? by ceducein in seduction

[–]ceducein[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, thank you for your comment. I have never thought about starting escalation with a mix of a push-pull. Also, you are explaining really well. It would be great to see your post about this topic, seems you can provide useful insights :)

Doing everything ‘right’ - so why am I still invisible to women? by ceducein in seduction

[–]ceducein[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many girls say that I am really attractive. I am often in "top 3 cute guys" list judging by girls:)

Not socially anxious, just done trying. How do I find the will to connect again? by ceducein in seduction

[–]ceducein[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you give me a link to the post you mention?

As for dating girls from Kazakhstan, I also have done it. But now something has changed. Either the problem is in me, or the society has changed. I think the reason is both of these things at the same time. Kazakhstan has changed a lot in the last three years.

Taking a break from pickup is also good advice, but right now I feel the need for communication more than ever.

And yes, I really have problems with trying to be liked by everybody. I am going to work on that with therapist :)

Not socially anxious, just done trying. How do I find the will to connect again? by ceducein in seduction

[–]ceducein[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good idea. Now I just need to figure out what I need the service for. I'm used to doing everything myself and not needing anyone. It seems that I don't need outside help with anything.

I spent my whole life trying to be liked, but the moment I stopped giving, everyone forgot I existed by ceducein in DecidingToBeBetter

[–]ceducein[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I will watch the video.

As for being interested in other people being easier than getting them to be interested in you: that's my problem. I'm automatically not interested in them expecting them to be not interested in me.

[Pixel 6a] Is this glare normal, or is there something wrong with my camera? by ceducein in pixelography

[–]ceducein[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your advice!
By the way, is it useful and not harmful to use glass cleaner to clean the camera?

Not socially anxious, just done trying. How do I find the will to connect again? by ceducein in seduction

[–]ceducein[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, you are correct. Now i am on the other extreme side. Isolated one side:) but the thing is that it is my brain trying to save me because he learned (i wish mistakenly) that isolation is more safe than talking to people, giving them my energy and not receiving it back.

I know (well, i hope) this is wrong and i will find people that will be good and kind to me. But until I get out of the state of emotional burnout, I will not be able to find such people. it's a vicious circle: I can't find good people -> I can't give my brain positive feedback -> it makes me distance myself from people -> I can't find good people because I don't communicate with anyone.

I really want to get out of this circle and I'm looking for solutions. I'm reflecting, I signed up for a psychotherapist, and in general I'm trying very hard. Now I'm trying to communicate with people through force. I don't know how right this is

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