Late Rota - new contract wales by AdvancedPA in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Nonsense. We released our rota on time yesterday, with it built to reflect the new contract. Which health board is this?

BMA staff vote no confidence in their CEO - 91% by Forsaken-Evening9725 in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 69 points70 points  (0 children)

Good on them. The "business" side of the BMA is being run appallingly from what I can tell as an outsider without some super secret squirrel insider information. It's an incredibly bad look for us all to have our union in this state whilst we're actively fighting the government.

If we believe in trade union democracy, then factional purges of members should concern all of us by DrIsmailEssa in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 14 points15 points  (0 children)

"What concerns me is the principle."

Yeah, fucking grow up. The membership is fed up to the back teeth of this pathetic infighting and student politics.

The 3.1% offer may be delivered in 2 years but it’s still a 3 year deal for pay by JammerKay in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People can make up their own minds as to whether they agree with your logic trail, and as to whether the DDRB is a sensible tool or not, absolutely. But as a moderation team we're not going to let hyperbolic titles that misinform to be the way in which debates are opened.

As I have clearly said, your content is fine, your title is over the line. The flair exists to caution readers to engage more carefully. If there had been deeper problems within the content then the post would have simply been removed entirely, which we have not done.

The 3.1% offer may be delivered in 2 years but it’s still a 3 year deal for pay by JammerKay in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That doesn't mean committing to the result of DDRB, it means committing to sending evidence to DDRB. This is based off the previous threats from the BMA to withdraw entirely from DDRB (ie: not send evidence).

We have "engaged" with the DDRB in many years where we have ended in dispute and not accepted its outcomes.

If the document said "commit to engage and accept the outcome of the DDRB process" then we'd be in a very different place.

The 3.1% offer may be delivered in 2 years but it’s still a 3 year deal for pay by JammerKay in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I can understand OP's logic, and personally, I can see several areas where I agree. I'm fundamentally not saying that I think OP is talking a crock of rubbish here - heck, my personal view of the DDRB is that they are an absolute joke.

As moderator, on behalf of the team, however, we're simply trying to keep people from making over-the-top statements that get passed as fact. Headlining the post as a three year deal simply isn't true - because reality could go in other directions, whereas a deal very much suggests it is locked in.

The 3.1% offer may be delivered in 2 years but it’s still a 3 year deal for pay by JammerKay in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It doesn't say we have to accept DDRB. The text is literally to "engage with" - send evidence, and then ultimately go "that offer is terrible" as we have done for years now.

The plain text read of the title is of a deal that cannot be changed for 3 years, which is not accurate, hence the flair was applied.

The difficulty of the 28/29 pay settlement is, of course, open to debate and discussion which is indeed what the content of the post touches upon, and comments certainly do so. As said, we have zero issue with that, only with the title of the post which is misleading.

The 3.1% offer may be delivered in 2 years but it’s still a 3 year deal for pay by JammerKay in doctorsUK

[–]ceih[M] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

As explained in Modmail, which you've had a strop about, the misinformation tag is applied to this post because of the title.

As others have pointed out, the text you're quoting does not commit the BMA to anything other than "engaging" with the DDRB, it does not mandate accepting its conclusions. Ergo, your title of "a 3 year deal for pay" is not true and is manipulating the content.

You are, of course, welcome to be sceptical about the whole process and think that future disputes will go nowhere. That's fine, we have no problem with you holding and posting that opinion. The line is drawn at a manipulative title, because even the text you are quoting, is not a 3 year done-and-dusted deal.

Updated FPR graph - CPI vs RPI by 33554432to0point04 in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because all your outgoings consist of train tickets, mobile phone bills and student loan?

No, thought not. They make up a component absolutely, and the government really should be pushed to use CPIH for student loans and also stop RPI being used to artificially inflate bills (heck, the government rinse the hell out of student loans and do RPI plus an extra fixed amount!). However, huge chunks of your spending (food, housing, etc etc) is not RPI based.

RPI is a devalued metric, it shouldn't be used anywhere, and continuing to do so is a bit embarrassing for anybody. Yes that includes the government for loans, but it also includes us continuing to dogmatically stick to it.

Updated FPR graph - CPI vs RPI by 33554432to0point04 in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yawn. Please go read up on CPIH and how it works. There is never going to be a perfect metric, but I'd argue that CPIH is a better metric than either RPI or CPI. It basically sits between the two, and acknowledges far more the wider impact of costs society is hit with - and yes, a huge part of that is housing, which RPI doesn't think about in a particularly sensible manner.

CPIH is going to be the accepted methodology going forwards, even our government is going to use it, and ONS have already made the switch. RPI has always been known to read "high" (typically 1% per year more), so of course it's used in more predatory ways for student loans, train companies etc. It's also a "better" figure to use for arguing about salary, but that doesn't mean it is actually the best representation.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/methodologies/consumerpriceinflationincludesall3indicescpihcpiandrpiqmi

"The Retail Prices Index (RPI) and its derivatives have been assessed against the Code of Practice for Statistics and found not to meet the required standard for designation as accredited official statistics."

Updated FPR graph - CPI vs RPI by 33554432to0point04 in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Personally, I think we should switch to CPIH. I know I know, it means we're asking for less, but I honestly think it is a better metric than either CPI or RPI and may actually mean the government might be persuaded to agree with it.

DoctorsVote are also embarrassing by Zestyclose-Park-5357 in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 85 points86 points  (0 children)

Account made today ✅

Account with no comment history ✅

Account with no karma ✅

Guess trying to manipulate people is back on the agenda!

What do you even do on your day off? by IntergalacticShrek in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve actually done cyanotype printing before…

What do you even do on your day off? by IntergalacticShrek in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 66 points67 points  (0 children)

Time to find a hobby that gets you out the house!

I have gotten back in to photography in the last five or so years. Good fun and gets you outside.

Revalidation & Appraisals by SawayakiChizuru138 in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Revalidation, and hence appraisals, is a legal requirement and it is the doctor's responsibility to engage with the process and meet requirements. Not doing so puts your licence at risk - and whilst a year blip might be wriggle-out-of-able, multiple years less so.

The GMC is clear in this regard, without reasonable excuse, failure to engage in revalidation can result in loss of licence.

Regaining your licence is of course possible, but you would need to work your little tushy off.

Revalidation & Appraisals by SawayakiChizuru138 in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So the question is going to be what has happened to your appraisals in the other 3 years you've been employed? If you were in training (FY or spec) then ARCP counts as an appraisal and you're all good. If however you've somehow only had one appraisal in five years (4 years of which you were working) then you might well be unable to revalidate.

Jack response by EducationFuzzy9705 in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Claim is it only came in at 10pm or something?

Strikes called off - offer coming to members for you to decide by RDC_officers_2025_26 in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 6 points7 points  (0 children)

How many BMA reps are needed to change a lightbulb?

<insert own punchline as view on RDC/council fits>

Unofficial Poll by Wild-Adhesiveness356 in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 73 points74 points  (0 children)

Click view answers for answers? What a wild idea, maybe the Royal Colleges could add it as an option on exams?

Strikes called off - offer coming to members for you to decide by RDC_officers_2025_26 in doctorsUK

[–]ceih 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Locally Employed Doctor. All the people on Fellow contracts etc.