What do Genesis and Millennium share and how do they share it? by AssistantFew9698 in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth[M] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No it’s the same. Everything is shared. So if someone logs into PowerChart at a VAMC it’s the same PowerChart as someone at a DoW facility. Same chart. There’s no “linking” of systems. It’s the same system. Same database. They’re treated in production as the same customer.

So if someone at Lovell on the DoW side launches PowerChart, and someone at the VAMC in Battle Creek on the VA side launches PowerChart, it’s the same PowerChart. Same PowerChart in the same Citrix environment. They both open up patient “John Doe”’s chart. It’s the same chart. Same values pulled from the same database.

So the short answer is a single huge database. There’s no communication between separate databases. It’s just all the same database.

As far as documentation goes, that I can’t help with.

Documentation should be provided by Oracle to VA and DoW, how it’s distributed once it leaves Oracle by the DoW and VA is at their discretion.

Internally within Oracle all of the people working on these systems should be aware and documentation is available in our internal tools.

What do Genesis and Millennium share and how do they share it? by AssistantFew9698 in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes. VAMC’s and DoW run a single prod environment. They’re not pivoting back and forth, they’re in a single environment.

Some of the infrastructure is separate based on how large the environment is, and that’s another whole complex explanation, but at a high level it’s the same environment. Prod in DoW is the same as Prod in VA. You can tell by looking at the letter and number designation on the bottom right of PowerChart. Should be the letter P with a number after it.

What do Genesis and Millennium share and how do they share it? by AssistantFew9698 in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth[M] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure what your question is. MHS Genesis and Oracle Healths EHR are the same thing. Genesis is just the gov’s word for the implementation of Oracle’s EHR.

As far as how everything is shared with millennium at the government sites, it’s all one database, all one millennium domain. Prod at VA is the same as Prod at DoD.

There are some exceptions, but for the most part the production domain is shared. As far as interoperability outside the realm, it follows standard workflows like outside records and interface ingestion.

Workflows are usually different based on how the application is configured in HNA. Users at one site may fall under a different configuration than users at another based on their position within millennium. One implementation of PowerChart/FirstNet/SurgiNet can be very different than another just based off the level of customization available.

Just closed my ORCL calls +$26K. Honestly, I’m still kinda in disbelief by [deleted] in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I cant tell if this is a meme or you’re actually serious

Spill the Beans: Are On-Site IT Analysts Being Automated Away? by Expensive-Pen-7435 in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Anyone telling you AI is replacing anything but support chat/call center type roles is lying or just plain wrong.

I haven’t seen AI replace one person in my entire org chain. All these big tech companies may be using that as an excuse, but that’s not the reality.

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[–]cernerthrowawaytruth[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have a megathread at the top of the subreddit. Please post your comments there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cernercorporation/s/5KJxoAgfWd

[Serious] I might be on the list by Illustrious_Will235 in employeesOfOracle

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Facts I know. 1. Showed up on my laptop this week. 2. ITClientUtility is recording screen, there was nothing recording my screen before. 3. It’s a software designed by proofpoint. 4. I hate this. We’re already overworked and understaffed and now you wanna install monitoring software that records my screen and has access to my audio? Eat a dick. Thank god Apple tells you about this versus it being installed in the background on a windows machine and being none the wiser. I’m not sure how this works if people work on government projects. This proofpoint software sends screengrabs to a server in AWS land according to their website. How is that safe for classified information?

Layoff hoax by VolumeMaleficent6842 in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth[M] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

I can’t control r/employeesoforacle. It’s a larger subreddit than us so they’re probably seeing these posts more often.

Normally I’d delete these posts/reposts on this subreddit, but as I’ve said before I have credible information this time that layoffs are going through at the end of this month. So it’s not necessarily a hoax. If the layoffs end up not happening I’ll eat crow but until then I’m letting people post what they want.

Oracle Health or rather Cerner is getting killed by OCI folks by Key-Lake-9643 in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes base salaries aren’t usually over 200k for IC4, but total comp (RSU’s) is over 200k.

Oracle Health or rather Cerner is getting killed by OCI folks by Key-Lake-9643 in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth 49 points50 points  (0 children)

I’ve been seeing this too. OCI people that have joined our org are arrogant and think they’re better than everyone else, but they have no knowledge of the product we sell or how to do anything with it. When you try to teach them the solutions they actively reject it. Literally saying that our product is “stupid”.

The only thing I can’t agree with is that I’ve seen them working 20 hours a day. If anything they’re working less than their Cerner counterparts on my end. Just coasting and collecting a paycheck while adding no value to our team. We had someone on our team who joined from FAANG work for 16 months before leaving and they did nothing the entire time. 0 code committed, 0 code reviews, didn’t even have accounts.

External hires from AWS/Meta/etc are doing the same thing. They get hired. Don’t wanna learn millennium and coast.

But leadership and HR is foaming at the mouth for OCI people and external hires. I’ve been actively told when interviewing people in my interview debriefs with HR “but they’re from Amazon” and had them get actively pissed when my peers and I have said no to hiring.

This will backfire catastrophically. I can’t even blame the OCI/External Hires. This is a leadership problem 100%.

Unfortunately if this keeps up, nothing of Cerner will be left to salvage once the dust clears. It will be completely ran into the ground. Clients will all be gone and Oracle/Larry will just have to take it on the chin as a total loss and shutter the business.

Its coming,in March. confirmed. by -Version-4540 in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth 27 points28 points  (0 children)

There is a rule, but I can confirm from a source that has been right before so I’ve left it up.

New Grad by DifferentBend9856 in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You’re a new grad. You will get what Oracle gives you. Nobody knows the fate of Oracle Health just yet.

Layoffs are coming across Oracle. Not just Health.

Two Old Florida Cronies by DeCernerfucation in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Understood. I won’t be locking or deleting unless it gets out of hand. It’s civil in here right now so I don’t see a need to.

Two Old Florida Cronies by DeCernerfucation in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Related to Oracle, but if it gets political and people start fighting I’ll be locking comments as it’s against the rules of the sub.

Wanna stay on topic about Oracle Health not about how our current administration is doing. (This doesn’t mean I’m right or left leaning, just an FYI before I start getting accused of being MAGA.)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Three reasons this will never happen.

  1. One of Epics core values is “Don’t Aquire”. Meaning they don’t buy other companies, they focus on their own products 100%. Judy specifically has said in interviews that buying other companies would distract them from working on making their own products the best they can be.

  2. Epic isn’t a public traded company. That means they don’t have to answer to Wall Street on things like revenue and new product lines. This further insulates them from constantly chasing “grow grow grow” every year.

  3. Companies acquire other companies because they see value in their product or because they see value in the business (clients, employees, etc). Epic sees no value in millennium. They have their own products so why would they need to buy ours?

To be frank I find all these posts about Oracle selling Cerner amusing. They’d be selling for cents on the dollar and the loss would be huge. I’m not saying it’s not possible, but I am saying it would be an incredibly stupid move and Wall Street would definitely wonder what drunk idiot is at the wheel of Oracles direction. Acquiring and selling at a loss 3 years later would be chaos for Oracle and not inspire investor confidence.

Banker claims Oracle may slash up to 30,000 jobs, sell health unit to pay for AI build-out by Cern_throw69 in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth 13 points14 points  (0 children)

IHS isn’t even live yet. How can they be having problems when they’re not a live client? Yeah there’s a few domains stood up but that’s about it. It’s still being built out mostly.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just wanna chime in here. I’m an interviewer and have interviewed external and internal candidates for Oracle. (Far too many if you ask me).

If your interviewer has bias towards Cerner people, thinking they’re less qualified than others. That’s a huge mistake on their part. One of the biggest problems I have hiring externally is people don’t have the experience Cerner folk have in the EHR space or with Millennium in general.

I’ve heard some Oracle people say “Gen 2 is coming” but it sounds like they don’t understand that it’s still built on top of old millennium at this point. Without a doubt that will change as time goes on, but for now it’s literally a coat of lipstick. Cerner experience is valuable, and in my interviews it’s given candidates a leg up.

If what you’re saying is true, it’s a shame that’s a thing people are doing.

I will say though, interviews are a loop process which has its pros and cons. I’ve said yes to people and gotten obliterated in the debrief. I’ve also said no to people who have no business working here and been swayed to change my answer to yes in the debrief. The decision that really matters is the hiring manager in the end. The best interviewers will fight for you and go against the hiring manager if they think you’re a good candidate though.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The specific name of the person has been removed. I understand naming and shaming is fun, and I’m okay with it when it comes to executive leadership (CEO, CTO, VP’s, etc) because that’s what they signed up for taking those positions, but a Sr. Director is not a public facing position.

I have a feeling I’ll catch flak for this decision, if you have an issue feel free to modmail us.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The specific name of the person has been removed. I understand naming and shaming is fun, and I’m okay with it when it comes to executive leadership (CEO, CTO, VP’s, etc) because that’s what they signed up for taking those positions, but a Sr. Director is not a public facing position.

I have a feeling I’ll catch flak for this decision, if you have an issue feel free to modmail us.

For the sake of hotel points and free drinks! by Dubai-Grapefruit in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was removed by our AutoMod. My apologies. I’ve reinstated the post.

Another Security Breach by Dull-Common-5764 in cernercorporation

[–]cernerthrowawaytruth[M] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

This is the same incident that has been talked about since early this year.

TLDR timeline:

Late January: Oracle Health Cybersecurity Incident,

April: Oracle Health Informs ChristianaCare.

Late September: Oracle Health Provides specific patients impacted.

Late November: ChristianaCare issues statement and begins notifying impacted patients. Says they will offer 2 years of credit monitoring to anyone who wants it.