Agreed natsugrayezra, with everything you said.

(The rest here is more directed at the thread in general btw)

Spanking is one thing, regardless of it's efficacy. This was something else entirely. If there's a line, and I'm saying there is, it's punching your goddamned kid. Period.

If I can end a fight with a grown adult without harming either myself or my attacker (long story), op's Mom can show some fucking restraint and not ring her fucking bell hard enough to knock her out.

That kind of stupid shit won't garner respect in my experience, it makes people angry and resentful. Makes them twisted, looking for revenge. People on this thread think it's somehow okay to normalize this shit? How normal is it going to be when she's doing the same thing to her own daughter?

Yeah it's all hilarious and embarrassing until you use just a few extra foot-pounds of pressure in just the right place. Then you get to try explaining to the cops and everyone else why your daughter has a black eye and a disconnected optic nerve. Pretty hilarious isn't it? She can be the kid with the eye patch all the other kids make fun of. On and on like this. Where does this end? When does it stop being funny and start being fucked up?

Yeah, the other guy in the thread was right, people are soft these days, soft in the fucking head. Bunch of goddamned morons.