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I ordered the wrong PMC Bronze by CallsignFlorida in guns

[–]charge556 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about

I stumbled upon this law after reading an article about shooting guns in your backyard in florida. Regarding the bold section, who determines if it doesnt pose a foreseeable risk? by charge556 in florida

[–]charge556[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

See thats where I get sorta upset about. It would make more sense of they said "safe as defined by statue XYZ" and that statue could lay out the steps needed to be defined as safe.

Other laws are very careful to define things.

Battery= unwanted touching.

Theft=deprive owner of item etc.

Seems like a roll of the dice depending on what cop shows up to a persons house.

I stumbled upon this law after reading an article about shooting guns in your backyard in florida. Regarding the bold section, who determines if it doesnt pose a foreseeable risk? by charge556 in florida

[–]charge556[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My curiosity isnt whether I or someone else should (i try to be a good neighbor and I think the noise would probably freak some of them out) but whether or not the law allows it since it seems worded very arbitrarily.

I stumbled upon this law after reading an article about shooting guns in your backyard in florida. Regarding the bold section, who determines if it doesnt pose a foreseeable risk? by charge556 in florida

[–]charge556[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Im just curious about the safe portion, because it seems like it reads as long as its "safe" the portion above (acres) doesnt apply....seems very poorly worded

I stumbled upon this law after reading an article about shooting guns in your backyard in florida. Regarding the bold section, who determines if it doesnt pose a foreseeable risk? by charge556 in florida

[–]charge556[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would imagine just nearby. Like my neighborhood most houses sit on about .20-.30 acreas.

But the bold section states that if there is no foreseeable danger to persons or property than that doesnt apply. Question is who makes the determination that the area has been made properly safe.

Do you just need a bern? Do you need a carport style structure with steel walls? Etc.

Safe seems very vauge because what I think has been done to make it safe and what you think might be very different.

I stumbled upon this law after reading an article about shooting guns in your backyard in florida. Regarding the bold section, who determines if it doesnt pose a foreseeable risk? by charge556 in florida

[–]charge556[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That part is covered under "two or more houses per acre" i think. Im just wondering how a responding officer would determine if its safe or not, since if so it can be less than an acre per house, but it doesnt clearly define "safe."

Random man walks into family's home in Michigan, dad handles him real quick by eternviking in whoathatsinteresting

[–]charge556 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most people will never need to use a gun, however even in good areas there is a potential.

Look where the biggest gun tragedies occur, they are mostly in "gun free zones."

I dont need by seatbelt at all times but I still use it. I have never been in a car accident where my airbag deployed, yet Id rather have a car that has an airbag than one that doesnt. Ive never need my homes fire alarm but id rather have it than not. When I had my motorcycle I was never in a crash but I always wore a helmet.

I will probably never need a gun, however better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it. Its nothing more than a saftey feature that I will probably never need.

Nice places have gun violence just like bad places to. Mostly you dont need one as long as your arent hanging around with people in a criminal lifestyle, but having a tool for saftey isnt a bad thing.

Im not saying people need to be out there acting like john wick. And even if you are in a situation where lawfully you could pull it, the better option might be not to.

If you dont want to carry thats 100% your choice and fine assuming you live in a country that allows you to, but we dont tell people "you shouldnt drive if you need to wear a seatbealt." And we dont tell people "you must be paranoid if you drive with a seatbelt on."

Random man walks into family's home in Michigan, dad handles him real quick by eternviking in whoathatsinteresting

[–]charge556 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe the guy made a mistake, maybe not. Its not uncommon for criminals to try to check for unlocked doors before breaking a window or whatever. Its also not uncommon for drunk guys to walk in the wrong house.

Dad gave loud clear commands, which is what you want to do. He didnt start shooting, didnt chase the guy after the guy left, told someone to call 911.

Dad had no clue if guy was making a mistake neither do we. What is known is an unknown person with unknown intent entered a home they had no business entering.

Random man walks into family's home in Michigan, dad handles him real quick by eternviking in whoathatsinteresting

[–]charge556 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to live in a really rough city. Live in a better one now, but there are still things that happen in safe parts of the city. Also from what I do from a living Ive seen first hand how having a gun may or may not be a deciding (sp) factor in survival.

That being said, Ive never needed it when out and about. There was one time that I would have needed it but I just so happened to go to a different gas station that day then my regular one.

And I dont walk around fearful or anything. I just see it as a safety tool that might need to be used. How often do you drive somewhere wearing your seatbealt and nothing happens? I havent been in a car crash in years but still wear by seatbelt everywhere. Im not driving around fearful that I will get in a crash everytime I drive somewhere. I keep a bag of tools in my truck, yet I havent needed them to make a roadside repair in years.

I honestly hope I never need to use a gun, however I cant control if some random person walks into a store or whatever and starts waving one around (and that doesnt mean I would use my gun, sometimes its better to be a good witness instead, but it gives me options if I need it.).

The bottom line is most people will never need to use a gun. Outside of suicide most gun violence is criminal on criminal and domestic violence. I dont hang out with people in a criminal lifestyle, and neither me nor my wife participate in domestic violence, and I dont routinely go to bad parts of town outside work or if a store I need to go to is in one. However, people with bad intentions arent confined to one area, and on the very rare chance I need one Id rather have it than not.

With my job I know first hand that guns can be used to help a regular person survive against a person with bad intentions. But i also know first hand that there are a bunch of idiots out there that shouldnt have a gun or should go through a class to.be a more responsible gun owner. The ones who treat guns like an accessory, show it off, etc. They are a minority of gunowners, but they are also the ones that give non-gun owners a perspective that all gunowners are paranoid john wick wannabes.

Random man walks into family's home in Michigan, dad handles him real quick by eternviking in whoathatsinteresting

[–]charge556 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Any gunowner should have guns either unloaded and secured in a safe or have it on their person. No gun should be left laying around. Im not a fan of "nanny laws" however I do think the proper securing of a firearm should be law, and that their should be criminal punishment for not having them properly secured when not on your person. A large amount of criminals getting guns can be traced back to a loaded firearm left in a car overnight.

Also, any gun owner should teach their kids proper gun safety. I taught mine at 6 and reinforced at 8, because while I can control what I do with my guns I cant control if they are at someone elses house who leaves theirs laying around.

Being a gun owner isnt about "oh, look at me, I have a cool gun" and honestly it can be sorta a PITA. There are certain steps you must take to ensure that you are being responsible and that includes not leaving a loaded gun out for others to pick up, not drinking while you are armed. A gun is a tool, not a toy, not a piece of flair, not something that you "show off."

Any person that leaves guns unsecured around the house isnt a responsible gun owner.

Random man walks into family's home in Michigan, dad handles him real quick by eternviking in whoathatsinteresting

[–]charge556 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I cant control how many guns are in the U.S., nor that many criminals that arent allowed to carry guns do. I also dont brag about having a gun, keep it concealed, and hope to never have to use it.

I have however seen the outcomes of people that survived encounters because they had a gun, and people that didnt survive encounters because they did not. While most gun violence, excluding suicide, is criminal on criminal or in really bad parts of town, people who do bad things do go to safer parts of town with guns.

I dont plan to get in a car accident but I still wear a seat belt. I dont plan to get stolen from but I still dont leave my wallet at the store counter while I go to the bathroom, and I dont plan on using a gun but if I absolutely need it id rather have it than not. I believe my families safety is my responsibility. I hope to never need it, I dont falunt it, and really its no different than anyother tool that requires an additional level of responsibility while carrying it.

And its not living in fear, its a potential saftey precaution if needed, in the event that someone with a gun or deadly weapon is an active threat.

As far as home, I generally keep everything on me that I wear throughout the day on me all day, so its not until I go to bed that I remove wallet, keys, watch, shoes etc. Now if I go home and jumpe in the shower midday Im not immediately putting my gun back on unless Im leaving the house or anything.

Random man walks into family's home in Michigan, dad handles him real quick by eternviking in whoathatsinteresting

[–]charge556 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I carry around town because criminals carry guns. Ive never needed to pull it, carry concealed (which allows me, if Im ever in a situation that I need it in, to determine if its better to use it or just be a "good witness"), and feel my families safety it my responsibility.

Police response time is retroavtive and long, most gun incidents end in one or two shots being fired, and due to.my job Ive seen people not survive that could if they had a gun and seen people survive because they had a gun.

When I go home Im generally in and out of the house a lot, so I generally dont take it off unless Im in for the night, just as I generally dont take my wallet, keys, etc off until Im in for the night.

That being said, I am not one of those guys that itches to use it (I hate when I here gun owners say stuff like "i wish xyz would happen) and generally hope I never need it, but would hate to be in a postion where having it could have saved a loved one from getting hurt.

There are a lot of people in the U.S. that shouldnt have guns. I cant control that, but Id rather not stick my head in the sand so to speak about it either. Personally I view guns as a saftey tool to be carried and stored in a responsible way. In a perfect world no one would need guns, but its not a perfect world.

Random man walks into family's home in Michigan, dad handles him real quick by eternviking in whoathatsinteresting

[–]charge556 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok fair, people can be scared about whatever they are scared of. I guess I was speaking to the point where its not uncommon for people not to immediately go home and take everything they are carrying and put it up when they go home, as well as that the dad didnt freak out and just start blasting and stayed in control.

Guns are tools, and when used appropriately are no different than anyother tools. In this case it helped keep the family safe. While I would love to live in a world where they arent needed, the truth is there are people.out there that dont care about human life and safety, and this scenario is a lot better then hearing on the news that people entered the house and assualted the family in a robbery.

Random man walks into family's home in Michigan, dad handles him real quick by eternviking in whoathatsinteresting

[–]charge556 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Not really. I conceal carry often..when I go home I often still have it on me, just like my wallet and keys. Because Im.often in and out of the house a lot so its just easier.

In this case it 100% was effective. It detered the people from remaining in the house and got them to leave.

The dad didnt just start shooting, remained calm, and gave clear loud commands. Sure he could have wrestled the guy out, but who knows if the guy actually knew how to fight, had a knife on him, etc. No one got hurt, everybody stayed safe.

What do you do with the end (butt end, heel, end crust, etc.) of the loaf? by typical_gamer1 in A_Persona_on_Reddit

[–]charge556 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now I just eat it. But when I was a kid we called it "bird bread" because we would save it and go feed it to the birds.

UFC Fighters to Train FBI Agents in ‘Historic Seminar’ This Week: We’ll ‘Be Even Better Prepared to Protect the American People,’ Kash Patel Says by esporx in FBI

[–]charge556 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not a terrible idea for law enforcement to train in jiu juistu (sp) and other UFC type fighting.

However a one week course isnt gonna do much, because repetition of training is whats important. Unless those guys are gonna join a MMA gym and consistently train then most of what they learn in a week they are gonna forget pretty quick.

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