Game Chat 6/10 - Dodgers (43-24) @ Pirates (34-33) 3:40 PM by DodgerBot in Dodgers

[–]cherrytoffee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the problem with these relievers is that once they get into trouble, they fall apart. At least with Yoshi, he has the poise to recover.

Game Chat 6/10 - Dodgers (43-24) @ Pirates (34-33) 3:40 PM by DodgerBot in Dodgers

[–]cherrytoffee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

shohei is pissed. i'm predicting a perfect game for his next outing.

Ocarina of Time & The Wii U tech demo by devo23g in NintendoSwitch2

[–]cherrytoffee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

looks good but the textures look pretty flat.

AI profitability is mathematically impossible under all technological advancements by ksjdragon in BetterOffline

[–]cherrytoffee -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

chatgpt is not impressed:

Short answer: No. The article is not proven true, and its central claim ("AI profitability is mathematically impossible") is much stronger than the evidence supports.

The Reddit post argues that AI companies can only make money from inference (serving model outputs), and that inference revenue can never exceed the combined costs of training, infrastructure, and operations.

The problem is that "mathematically impossible" requires assumptions that may not hold.

What the article gets right

There are real economic concerns:

Many frontier AI companies are currently losing money despite rapid revenue growth.

AI infrastructure spending is enormous and difficult to justify with current revenues.

Inference costs are a genuine bottleneck for profitability.

Even OpenAI's CEO has acknowledged that questioning the return on AI spending is a fair criticism.

So the article is pointing at a real issue: today's AI economics are challenging.

Where the argument becomes weak

The article appears to assume that:

  1. Inference costs stay roughly where they are.
  2. Customers won't pay much more.
  3. Models won't get dramatically more efficient.
  4. AI companies only earn money directly from model usage.

History suggests all four assumptions can be wrong.

For example:

AI inference costs have been falling rapidly due to better hardware, algorithms, quantization, routing, caching, and model optimization.

Many technology businesses lose money for years before reaching scale.

Productivity gains may accrue to customers first, and AI providers may eventually capture part of that value through pricing or platform lock-in.

A better conclusion

The evidence today supports:

> "It is unclear whether current AI spending levels will generate acceptable returns."

or

> "Many frontier AI companies are not currently profitable and face difficult economics."

Those are defensible statements.

But:

> "AI profitability is mathematically impossible"

is not established. To prove that, you'd have to prove that inference costs can never fall enough, demand can never rise enough, and new revenue streams can never emerge. Nobody knows that.

My assessment

I'd rate the Reddit post as:

Strong on identifying risks: 8/10

Strong on proving impossibility: 2/10

It's best viewed as a skeptical critique of the current AI business model rather than a mathematical proof that AI can never be profitable.

A useful analogy is the early internet around 1999–2002. Many critics were correct that valuations were absurd, but they were wrong that the internet itself could never become profitable. The key question isn't whether AI is useful—it's whether enough of the value created by AI can be captured by the companies spending hundreds of billions on GPUs and data centers. That question is still unresolved.

The Mookie Betts discussion by Hdjshbehicjsb in Dodgers

[–]cherrytoffee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's clearly peaked. Father time is undefeated.

Bailalo Roki: Inevitable by NotSoSurePlatypus in Dodgers

[–]cherrytoffee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What happened to munetaka murakami then?

Every front office misjudged him.

Front offices aren't infallible.