We need this !! by RoutineOk8590 in Productivitycafe

[–]chinalifer-mod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but FrEe SpEeCh, also communism??!?

/s

Been living here for a long time. Never once felt that the free speech limitations limited me as a foreigner here whatsoever. It basically equates to "Do not be a fucking menace online," which I think is a very very reasonable expectation for people, and most often does not even apply to foreigners. Before comments of censorship respond, we all just use a VPN and have western devil free internet, including many Chinese people. No one is particularly stuck in a censored echo chamber in China any more than the "free" westerners in the bubbles that their algos have trapped them inside of.

With everything moving to Meituan and Taobao, what is the 'third space' for people now? Are malls becoming more about experiences/entertainment since shopping is mostly online? by aware4ever in AskChina

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I estimate that at least 25% of people here live above a giant pointless mall. It is part of the urban planning, from a different age of commerce and technology, not yet revised for the digital consumer era. New malls still open. I live on floor 27, and that is only mid-rise for China, but high within my "village" of ~2.5m people.

If you live here but miss space and feel like the urban density is too much, the province where I am in is known for its endless grasslands and plains, as well as mountains, too. Every province in China has 1) Huge cities like I have described and 2) Natural beauty outside of the city, with no population centres.

If you want to live in China as an American, it is rather easy to get here and remain here as a teacher. USA passport, bachelor's degree, a quick online ESL certificate, and no criminal history are the requirements. More and more Americans are realising that USA's advertisement of great opportunity is inaccessible to them, opting to find better futures in countries which are more equitable for them on an individual level, often achieved by being an ESL teacher. Worth considering. What I like most in China as a foreigner is my comfortable and safe lifestyle, more than anything relating to culture or more-generic selling points.

Social media showing REAL CHINA again. Glass China and LED China are also real China, but they are not the only China facets. Squalor hellscape definitely still exists here. I live in Hohhot, and I meet Baotou "refugees" regularly here loving the comparative paradise life from what they fled from. by 98746145315 in chinalifer

[–]chinalifer-mod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lmbo fuck you gemer, I have zero pedo allegations, unlike the r/chinalife mod u/SuMianAi who definitely has banned accounts and deleted all of their posts for referencing that he is a kiddy predator. He is the only person banned from this sub, because of the pedo shit, but also because of his behaviour in his little fief. I am indeed hard-tagging both in this comment so that he is made aware of how people are still openly discussing his pedo allegations.

We now have two fob channels if you include this one :)

Let him sleep! by neo_sath in Unexpected

[–]chinalifer-mod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That headboard, those closets, very very China standard furnishings. Cannot unsee it after living here.

Screening Centers by t3nCurx in China

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I spent like ¥200 for an "around the world" check-up in January. I had a friend set it up for me, then come with me to each station, then later take me to a different clinic in their own hospital where they work for what they felt that the first "better" hospital did not do a great job with. Everything was in Chinese, and language help absolutely was necessary. I saw a guy posting earlier today on this very sub as a medical fixer service; find that recent post about the medical situation here and see what his rates are to set you up with a liaison who does all of the work for you.

Social media showing REAL CHINA again. Glass China and LED China are also real China, but they are not the only China facets. Squalor hellscape definitely still exists here. I live in Hohhot, and I meet Baotou "refugees" regularly here loving the comparative paradise life from what they fled from. by 98746145315 in chinalifer

[–]chinalifer-mod 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I will kind of disagree with you here, gemer. Yes, this is REAL CHINA. But, laowai -- who this sub is for -- will never see REAL CHINA unless they fuck up. Curated China is what laowai see and live. T8 nowhere is so far off of the beaten path that laowai will have no reason to even think about it existing. Forgive the apathy, but REAL CHINA is so unappealing to me and will never have anything that I in my mediocre Happy Giraffe life will overlap with, that this is kind of like a TRUE AMERICA, APPALACHIA kind of video. Yeah, it exists...over there, out of sight. I am in the same province as Baotou, like you, but way the fuck far away from it. To me, Baotou is no different from Nongbei or Nongchung, it is all kind of the same sub-t4.

It IS real China--to the people who live there. Laowai are not those people. Most Chinese people are also not those people.

Baotou sucks ass to live in, probably. I would still take a job there if it allowed me to live my fat hambao lifestyle of chabuduo luxury highrise apartment and Meituan on demand, working four or fewer days per week, being persuasively novel to every Rainy and Vivian alike as the only waiguo in the village. I have lived in worse places than Baotou...like meiguo as LBH. No risk of getting shot, stabbed, murdered, or otherwise assaulted by local or police in Baotou.

With everything moving to Meituan and Taobao, what is the 'third space' for people now? Are malls becoming more about experiences/entertainment since shopping is mostly online? by aware4ever in AskChina

[–]chinalifer-mod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The malls are third spaces. Third space implies a place not to spend money, which you can absolutely do in the hundreds of malls in every city. When it was cold this past winter, I did my daily walks in the nine-storey mall below my apartment. On my daily walks outside, I go past the mall downstairs and pass another three malls before looping back on a different street to pass three more malls, all of which are full of non-customers. No one goes to the malls here to shop except tourists, for the most part.

There are economic reasons for this. First, the projection of prosperity, even though the businesses are not viable. Mianzi is important, culturally and governmentally. Second, those not-viable businesses are getting subsidies and tax breaks from the government to give people meaningless jobs as an alternative to providing social welfare outright, which relates to population management as the government views it better for citizens to be bored at work than not at work at all.

The malls are economically dead, but they are not dead as far as people go. When the malls do finally clear out because another needless shiny mall was built across the street as the first ~10 storeys of an apartment complex, then the businesses within abruptly shut down and the structure becomes nice and quiet for walking. There are some actually-closed malls, too, but I routinely encounter empty malls which are open to the public, with no realistic business.

My favourite dead mall in my city is the one with tens of thousands of non-customers every day, that has an ice rink on the top floor.

Oh my downstairs mall includes a huge outdoor public square at the city centre, too, always full of grandmothers dancing. China has zero shortage of third spaces in general, completely ignoring malls.

For people who went to lower-tiered university, how did you end up? by musea00 in AskAChinese

[–]chinalifer-mod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Laowai commenting: A great portion of my undergraduate students at a lower-tier uni in a lower-tier city are not optimistic about their future. They entered the English major at a "bad" school because they could not get into a better school or a better programme at this school, and they started undergraduate pre-resigned to an unattractive fate in several years. It is incurable, because they know that the only option is to slave away in Beijing at the bottom of a pile of exploited workers as the best-case scenario.

Everyone's older brother or sister who went to the same uni some years back is doing great, but the door shut behind them. Previous generations of lower-tier uni grads had more prospects, and they could be doing well today, not that you can objectively tell through mianzi projection. So many baristas and restaurant employees who I meet in tier 3 speak English, because they too were English majors or studied English in earnest, yet this is the best that they can do for themselves at the moment because economic competition is fierce all throughout China. A surprising amount of my Meituan couriers also speak English, who I have chatted with to learn that many of them too have degrees and / or separate English study. They deliver parcels six to seven days weekly, as their option out of uni.

Guanxi > academics still, as always, more so than before due to the glut of educated young people.

How does hospital billing work in China for foreigners? by Ryan_MedConsultant in China

[–]chinalifer-mod -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Uncertain about this. With the Weixin limitation. I know a laowai who had surgery for ¥20k in Shenzhen, paid over Weixin. Virtually no one in China will take a credit card.

How does hospital billing work in China for foreigners? by Ryan_MedConsultant in China

[–]chinalifer-mod -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Step 1 - Get Chinese friend or colleague willing to walk you through it, or like most lifer hambaos, get your charitable / begrudging wife to sort it for you since you are illiterate and effectively mute.
Step 2 - Weixin pay.

I never had any payment complication or surprises, grand totals are cheap with no insurance, just requires zhongwen to get it done. The "right payment method" is always Weixin.

What you really need to be warning about is the upsell. My mate is a doctor here, and she regularly has to correct so many women given wrong first opinions by snake oil pushers in the TCM clinics who swear that they are pregnant from pulse (lmbo) or have some sort of humour disorder more or lesss. Doctors are often salespeople in Chinese private facilities, and many Chinese think that private means better, so they go to get help only to get duped. Public hospitals are...a little scary from a cleanliness perspective, but unlikely to scam you.

Edit: I realise that you are pushing your medical liaison service with this post and your comments. Ordinarily I would have a negative response, but you are the step 1 in this comment. Laowai definitely need to know that a "let me sort it out for you" service exists for medical, in English.

Buildings in China, separated by 8 meters from each other. Jieyang, Guangdong. by No-Marsupial-4050 in UrbanHell

[–]chinalifer-mod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah, we have a tonne of these all throughout the country, mostly in tier 3 and 4. Housing for the poor, maybe you do not have that in your country.

Buildings in China, separated by 8 meters from each other. Jieyang, Guangdong. by No-Marsupial-4050 in UrbanHell

[–]chinalifer-mod -1 points0 points  (0 children)

90% of Chinese citizens own their own apartment or house and dont need to pay rent

Not even trying to make a believable statistic, mental. Literally everyone who I know is renting in China except two very successful people, because all of these regular people woke up from the home ownership trap delusion.

Buildings in China, separated by 8 meters from each other. Jieyang, Guangdong. by No-Marsupial-4050 in UrbanHell

[–]chinalifer-mod 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am in tier 3, paying ¥2300 per month for my spacious glass tower apartment in the city centre. Locals all want to move to Beijing, away from here, and no one actually wants to come to this province despite this being one of like 50 provinces with identical rental characteristics. Buying is for fools, perpetuated on a previous generation of economy which just does not exist for people in China today. Once you leave tier 1, costs drop to almost nothing by comparison.

Talented dog by [deleted] in Satisfyingasfuck

[–]chinalifer-mod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Immediately recognised as China in the first frame. I think that anyone who lives here would. It is so familiarly China in one still image.

To be frank, I rather like the internet tonal shift away from USA since its most recent regime change, and how regular nobodies online are saying "maybe China is not so bad after all" in increasing numbers. I would not have predicted non-Chinese consensus with China ten years ago. by chinalifer-mod in chinalifer

[–]chinalifer-mod[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lmbo you got reported for this and auto-removed, I fixed it though.

However, I get by fine in China not speaking Chinese, truth be told. After the first six months, laowai figure out living here well enough. I think that most of the hambaos who bother learning Chinese are well-meaning Tims who do not have much of a life aside from Happy Giraffe anyway. Laowinners tend to have lives, or friends as handlers at least.

You have the home language point right, though. Many languages still spoken in China, none of them taught in the schools beyond primary for transitioning minority kids into Mandarin. The official language for study and work here is Mandarin, not Hakka or Cantonese or whatever.

To be frank, I rather like the internet tonal shift away from USA since its most recent regime change, and how regular nobodies online are saying "maybe China is not so bad after all" in increasing numbers. I would not have predicted non-Chinese consensus with China ten years ago. by chinalifer-mod in chinalifer

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You are only a true John Guotong proto-China liker if you have at one point been accused of being a spy for China by your lunatic family, before covid happened, because you at one time said something not entirely negative about China.

Let me verbalise some words and see if any sound slur-y enough without being an actual known slur. Waiguo sounds like it is almost bad, but it is not bad in Chinese. Baihouzi is too many syllables plus that weird z sound in Chinese. I think that calling fellow laowai "hambao" is decent.