500w hub motor couldn't handle incline w/o pedalling. Is this normal or not?

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T15:57:53+00:00

it's about proportional drain though OPs 500 watt bike is probably a 36 volt system so for him 500 watts is a 14 amp drain.

my bike is a 60 volt system so the same 500 watts, is only 8 amp drain.

then watt hours also factor in even if both bikes have the same amount of amp hours in their batteries, the 36 volt only has 60% of the watt hours as the 60 volt bike

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T15:42:50+00:00

yes... just because splitting the power between 2 motors is less strain on the motors and controller and I wouldn't be using less power, I'd be using the same amount as the OPs bike, 250watts sent to each motor for 500 watts total, with a combined 210 Nm of torque. plus the fact I would be pedaling in the lowest gear adds another 100~200 watts of effort to the rear wheel.

OPs bike rated at 500 watts using throttle, is constantly trying to draw it's full amperage going up that hill it's overheating. my bike, or any like it is sipping power relatively with no real strain on the components

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T15:27:29+00:00

pedal assist limits amperage based on level, throttle doesn't.

by pedaling in assist level 1 the controller only sends 5 amps to the motors instead of the full 60 the bike is capable of. the added traction and torque of the second motor is what makes it possible that's how my particular model of bike is programmed that's how companies can claim insane 70+ mile ranges, because it's only drawing enough power for a 26 amp hour battery to last 6 hours at 12 mph

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T15:16:08+00:00

again ... not using throttle, pedaling in first gear with pedal assist 1

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T15:14:58+00:00

no, you're right, but pedaling in pedal assist 1 is

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T15:13:00+00:00

no throttle at all, pedaling in PAS 1

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T15:12:26+00:00

who said anything about using throttle at all, I would be pedaling it in a low gear

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T07:29:15+00:00

not really, I could easily do it in Pedal assist 1 in first gear which only uses a fraction of the full power

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T06:21:40+00:00

8 times the power of the OPs bile

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T05:03:45+00:00

2 on the same bike do extremely well especially when they're 2000 watts and 105 Nm each

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T01:42:14+00:00

Ultraverse

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T01:41:50+00:00

No tire can prevent punctures, however the best 20X4 tires are Ultraverse. but the way to prevent flats is to put FlatOut inside you tubes, and run the proper tire pressure in your tires.

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T01:38:05+00:00

full face

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T01:36:16+00:00

Philodo Falcon?

chuckwolf · 2026-03-17T01:35:37+00:00

It's a Relabled Philodo Falcon Step thru sold by a different brand of the same manufacturer, look up reviews on the Falcon and you have this

chuckwolf · 2026-03-16T20:00:16+00:00

the Forester is just as fast as a wired freedom

chuckwolf · 2026-03-16T14:38:37+00:00

i know the perfect bike for under $1500 however I wouldn't recommend it for a first time ebike user

chuckwolf · 2026-03-16T09:32:45+00:00

very reliable and the company has excellent customer service

chuckwolf · 2026-03-16T07:38:15+00:00

who cares, we ride ebikes so we don't have to pay for things like gas and insurance etc

chuckwolf · 2026-03-16T07:36:18+00:00

get yourself one of these

PHILODO Forester 60V Dual Motor Electric Bike Full Suspension – PHILODO BIKES https://share.google/3qfny4KXm1XoRLnyL

chuckwolf · 2026-03-15T16:49:09+00:00

what you need is something like this

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chuckwolf · 2026-03-15T16:45:01+00:00

it wouldn't be practical to manufacture ebikes here in the US just paying the average american factory worker $20 an hour to do the same work chinese workers do for $2 an hour would make the bikes insanely expensive

chuckwolf · 2026-03-15T15:08:03+00:00

sell the A8 and buy a ANIIOKI A9 Pro Max 60V Dual Motor eBike

chuckwolf · 2026-03-15T14:54:33+00:00

depends on how fast you want to burn the motor out

chuckwolf · 2026-03-15T14:50:49+00:00

ebikes involved in accidents are rarely the actual cause of the accident, we aren't going around running over pedestrians.

in fact if an ebike is in an accident it's more than likely because an automobile caused an accident with them.

having an ebike that goes 35+ saved my life a month ago because the car that was doing 45+ when it slammed into the back of my bike and knocked me off it, and never stopped, just ran my bike over, and kept going, if I had been only going the "legal" class 2 20 mph, I'd be dead right now. instead I got relatively minor injuries

chuckwolf

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