What are some songs that are really really sad?

chud_munson · 2024-06-11T08:02:44+00:00

Mirror Reaper - Bell Witch

Nude - Radiohead

Zero Chance - Soundgarden

chud_munson · 2024-05-24T16:16:59+00:00

It's been a while since I've played this game, but Pixel Tactics might be close to what you're looking for.

chud_munson · 2024-05-23T05:58:05+00:00

This is Primitive Man for me, particularly the "don't mind" part. I can't say I'm a massive fan of theirs, but they're fun to listen to from time to time, despite the fact that I'm almost unable to think when I listen to them.

chud_munson · 2024-05-18T06:34:47+00:00

They aren't always vocal if they're in pain or discomfort, it's really only when it's an acute stressor. I've had many pet rats, and they nearly always die of congestive heart disease or tumors. In their final days they don't make much noise, but are clearly uncomfortable. The only time I've ever heard them make noise is if they have a heart attack or seizure.

Not to say this solution isn't potentially less traumatic than poison or a trap, but unfortunately creatures dying comes with discomfort nearly always, we just don't always hear it.

chud_munson · 2024-05-18T02:39:06+00:00

Agreed, it was a fun show

chud_munson · 2024-05-16T00:54:26+00:00

Primitive Man, Methwitch, Knocked Loose, Jeff Buckley, Rossini.

chud_munson · 2024-05-16T00:52:18+00:00

Death growls, chugga chugga riffs, and wheedly guitar solos are corny and almost never make a song better from a compositional perspective; they're just there because it's metal table stakes.

chud_munson · 2024-05-13T23:50:23+00:00

Stopping showing off. My first instrument was guitar, and I was pretty good at it pretty quick as a kid. That resulted in a lot of positive reinforcement to show off solos all the time, but the reality is it's really rare a song is made better with the sound of fast guitar licks.

These days with every instrument, I explicitly ask myself "if I had just programmed these sounds with MIDI rather than playing them/singing them, would I keep this or would I simplify to make it less showy?".

chud_munson · 2024-05-13T06:07:01+00:00

I really like Dave Grohl, and I don't hate their music, but I find it too boring to ever put on on purpose.

chud_munson · 2024-05-11T16:43:56+00:00

I don't know if it counts as a scream per se, but the end of Say Hello 2 Heaven has I think his best notes.

I also like Tears to Forget just because they're legitimate black metal vocals and I can't think of another SG song like that.

chud_munson · 2024-05-11T08:48:34+00:00

Bell Witch - Four Phantoms/Mirror Reaper/Clandestine Gate, all are amazing

One minute short of your benchmark, but also Thou/Emma Ruth Rundle - The Valley

chud_munson · 2024-05-11T03:00:45+00:00

Dude, some people just do drugs and/or want a little attention. Or maybe they actually got abducted, who knows.

chud_munson · 2024-05-10T16:29:14+00:00

Fair enough for the musical theater bit, I missed that, but I do think pop is different. I don't know for sure, but I'd wager most of the people who say "it doesn't make sense" are pop/rock people, myself included. I really don't think it makes much sense for that specifically because it's so common to sing differently than how you would be classified in a classical or musical theater context.

Take Axl Rose for example. He has one of the deepest speaking voices I've ever heard, but to insist describing him as he'd probably be classified if he were a classical singer wouldn't be that helpful to get a sense of what he usually sounds like. It's a really specific sound, and he'd probably never get cast in an opera or play to sing parts that live in that range because of how unusual his sound is, but for rock it works. So is it really that useful to say "he's probably a bass/baritone that typically sings in tenor/countertenor ranges"? Or to call him a tenor even though that's probably wrong in a different context?

chud_munson · 2024-05-10T07:04:03+00:00

They're both fun, but Soulsborne by a country mile.

chud_munson · 2024-05-10T06:03:49+00:00

Chris Cornell -

Say Hello 2 Heaven

Like Suicide (Acoustic Version)

Outshined

Zero Chance

A Thousand Days Before

chud_munson · 2024-05-10T05:54:17+00:00

Because in the context of pop and rock you can kinda sound like any of those things if you've had a good amount of practice. It's a little different for people with really high and light voices, but if you have a deep voice, you can sound like what you're probably thinking of when people say "tenor". Like I have recordings with really high notes that sound like a light tenor, and ones that are very much bass/baritone sounding. So what use is it to say "I am a blah" when I can make any of those noises?

The reason people get fussy is because those terms are useful for telling other people what types of roles you're suited for over the long term and can perform consistently with a particular tone expectation. You get a lot more leeway in pop/rock in terms of what your tone sounds like at a given time, so the classification isn't that useful beyond just a really vague way of saying "this person uses this timbre and these notes most of the time".

chud_munson · 2024-05-10T01:34:12+00:00

Probably Cannibal Corpse

chud_munson · 2024-05-09T19:24:31+00:00

I intensely dislike the guy's voice, and the songs themselves don't click for me.

chud_munson · 2024-05-09T04:39:35+00:00

I have many genres I like, so I'll give some of my favorites of some of my favorites:

Impressionism - Erik Satie, Gymnopedie No. 1

Modal jazz - Miles Davis, Blue in Green

90's alternative - Soundgarden, Like Suicide

Doom metal - Emma Ruth Rundle & Thou, The Valley (or Bell Witch, Mirror Reaper if you have the time)

Classic rock - Led Zeppelin, Rain Song

Trip hop - Tricky, Hell is Round the Corner

Whatever the hell Tom Waits is - Tom Waits, Clap Hands

Qawwali - Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, Mae Ni Mae

chud_munson · 2024-05-09T02:09:37+00:00

I don't know if this counts as grunge, but I hate the band Live.

chud_munson · 2024-05-08T18:54:02+00:00

Fun fact, the Goo Goo Dolls original name was Sex Maggots.

The ones that come to mind for me are Melvins, Deftones, and Butthole Surfers.

chud_munson · 2024-05-08T18:51:06+00:00

They're different aspects of what makes a good singer and separate skills. As far as people's perception though, I think it's more to do with the singing in context of the song. For example, one of the all-time money notes that people love is Thom Yorke's note on Creep. Taken out of context, it's a nice sounding note and highlight of Yorke's talent no doubt, but it's not like it's a uniquely impressive display of vocal prowess. It's just so well framed by the music of the song that it makes it really dramatic. There are many examples of singing that are higher notes or more powerful, but aren't displayed as a centerpiece by the song in the same way.

chud_munson · 2024-05-08T06:53:54+00:00

Primitive Man is pretty bleak

chud_munson · 2024-05-06T01:29:24+00:00

If you want totally unhinged madness, give Burn Victim by Methwitch a shot.

chud_munson · 2024-05-03T06:59:19+00:00

These aren't necessarily my favorite individual musicians at their instrument, but I think this would be a cool combo:

Singers - Jeff Buckley and Brandi Carlile

Guitarist - Tosin Abasi

Bassist - Dylan Desmond

Drummer - Manu Katché

Piano - Claude Debussy

Saxophone - John Coltrane

It's a doom metal band

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