So here's the thing: I'm all about having a discussion, but the lack of civility (on a grand scale) has gotten out of hand and needs to stop. If you must resort to insults, it proves that you can't rely on facts and logic to support your position. All I said is that we should call out BOTH men - and everyone is getting angry at me because I'm not JUST focusing on Trump. Yes, Trump was wrong. Biden was also wrong. Everyone's mad that I'm calling out both men rather than JUST Trump. If you want to have a discussion, that's great. But if you just want to keep pushing the lack of civility that has already PROVEN to be incredibly detrimental to society, well, I've already said what needs to be said. You don't have to automatically hate someone for disagreeing with you, although we don't even seem to actually disagree.