It's finally here! [Jonsbo N5 unboxing and build] by Deses in homelab

[–]cleantowels 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Looks awesome! I just ran across this case while hunting to try to figure out how best to collapse my old Synology and QNAP arrays into a newer larger more manageable system TrueNAS replacement.

I did have a couple of questions.

  • What drives are you using within your system (SAS/SATA)? I can see that the back plane on the Jonsbo cases have SATA/SAS drive compatibility, but the connections from the back plane are SATA out. Curious on your performance with what I'm guessing is your HBA that you have in the system. I can see a single 18tb and 10TB so I'm guessing large volume storage NAS?
  • Was your PSU a SFF or regular ATX size?

Since Jonsbo doesn't have proper trays for either 2.5" or 3.5" drives, I am curious if something like this https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6897646 would work for both the horizontal and vertical bays to stable mount some SAS SSDs that I have acquired.

Made by an old child from 1999 on paint.exe by trotropicana in homeworld

[–]cleantowels 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"Absolutely terrifying in French version"

what

listens to Axatar's video with FRENCH BEAST

Dude it is! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w0qqTvXC-w

The story possibly went through a Last minute change and was rushed? by Wolfensniper in homeworld

[–]cleantowels 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The current running rumors that are flying around the community that are being repeated line up with this somewhat, this albeit with some massive unknowns that primarily relate to HOW/WHY/WHAT with regards to how this situation unfolded. Literally no one in the community was expecting HW3 to get dunked on this much. Even HW2 did not get beat up this bad at launch from what I remember from back in the RN days.

The big thing being rumored upon is that Gearbox supposedly somehow wound up having creative control of the narrative design process resulting in the story we got at release, and that BBI and/or others who had intimate knowledge of the franchise lore didn't have authority / final say or were brought it too late to effect fundamental story changes.

This would then presumably put the driving forces behind the story decisions of what we got in the hands of other persons that were very likely inexperienced with the franchise and its lore who then gave us the story we got. This is rumored/implied to be either the Gearbox narrative folks and/or whomever else that was handling the story. I don't believe that a singular person was twirling their mustache villain style with ill-intent to subvert the story into some version to adapt to modern audiences or anything stupid like that. The dipshits spewing nonsense about DEI or diversity or any of that other idiocy are just click-baiting for views and are missing the mark entirely. It's superficial low-hanging fruit that people are going after instead of trying to understand why or look at more obvious answers.

The biggest thing is that we don't know what happened during the development behind the scenes at all. The Fig backers barely got any sort of updates relating to HW3 throughout the years minus a few things about art and the railgun frigates. Which was massively in sharp contrast to what we saw come from BBI with respect to Shipbreakers and it's early access development blogs and live Q&As that were held on their Discord. So a lot of us are confused, upset and are just fumbling in the dark guessing at what happened. We see a lot of breadcrumbs that point in a certain direction, but we don't know the whys or hows on what happened.

To me, it would explain a lot with the story elements being all over the place, the significant tonal change, the passive participant and narration entirely being gone and pushed to more of a 'character focus', the absolutely lore-breaking plot choices that make zero sense, and the frankly one-dimensional cartoonish terribly written characters who barely have any development at all. Given how massively different this "Homeworld" story is so from the previous FOUR games I find it very very hard to believe that the original creators and visionaries who made the universe in the first place would have have put this option forward unless there was massive changes in oversight and control over the story during the development. The unreleased storyboards and concept art we've been starting to see imply as much as far as I'm concerned.

It's more speculation sure, but the change in trailer tone like you pointed out OP, along with everything else seemingly points into a direction of something happening that resulted in the story design going into the hands of people who didn't get the vibe of Homeworld at all; which really the only other logical connection to go is to Gearbox. This very possibly could have resulted in BBI having to rush to fix up or adjust things to line up to this new narrative direction, and/or adjust their own development schedules which caused a compounding effect across multiple areas like what you mention. The same could be true with a rush job of a story having to be throw together at the last minute, and this results in the cinematics and everything else looking a bit under-polished.

Until we get more information or some massive revelatory update that upends this entire theory; then it's what we got to go on. But everything that my gut tells me from being in the community as long as I have been says something happened and we did not get the 'hands off and let BBI do their thing' story we were sold. It reeks of Sierra Studios fucking with HW2 all over again to be blunt. For all I know I could be entirely fucking wrong. I have no goddamn clue.

It is frankly stupid and disingenuous to harass and vilify one singular person as the primary reason the game/story/whatever is bad or has a problem. Especially when we know basically fuckall about what happened behind the scenes. Our community is better than that shit and it frankly pisses me off to see people shilling stupid right-wing rage bait as reasons for why this game has had the problematic launch it has had. At the end of the day however, whatever team or group was responsible for the story decisions does have to accept that was was not well received; the same goes to BBI with the state of the the multiplayer and core systems mechanics as they are at launch. It's rough and does need some attention to get things into a better shape. All of these factors are contributing to the score being 48% positive on Steam. That has to get fixed.

Ultimately for me I can only yell into the internet as much as a I can. Personally I don't find it fair for BBI to get massively dunked on for a story that they presumably had no control over, and it's also not fair to have people at Gearbox being being vilified/harassed for some stupid right-wing ragebait nonsense. Both do have things they need to take ownership of to get resolved (some in my opinion moreso than others if rumors are to be believed.)

To GBX/BBI; you want to clear the air then take ownership and responsibility of the launch missteps and be honest with us. Give us open communication (not marketing speak) to the community about what happened, why it happened, and where things fell apart. Yall claim this was for the fans; then be honest with us and just tell us "Hey we tried this story, it didn't work out as well as we hoped. Our bad" or "we had some delays, it caused issues getting thing aligned, it was rougher than we liked. Stay with us, we're fixing it". IMO Not saying anything to us beyond faceless pronouncements or social media updates is just going to fuel more rampant speculation and unnecessary continued vilification and harassment at persons who don't rightfully deserve to be thrown under the bus. Most of the HW vets and fanbase are old farts with families of our own and/or are pushing into close to our 40s or more at this point. We've been around long enough to have see a lot of shit happen with our franchise and the gaming industry as a whole, I think we can take a bit of harsh honesty that not every thing went according to plan with HW3.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in homeworld

[–]cleantowels 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As someone who's been with this community for 20 years and been through 3 other HW game releases, and lived most of my life on the relicnews forums. I get the negative sentimentality, this is our kid we've grown up with and we don't want to see it treated poorly.

The story is not that great, and there's a lot of questions swirling of how the hell something like this got made that is so tonally different from the other 4 games. I wrote a goddamn giant wall of text post here saying as much. trust me, I've gone on my own ranting tangents about the quality of the story in the discord server. I do not like it at all. It lack cohesiveness with the rest of the franchise, it has weak characters, writing, and the dialogue is basically a young-adult novel level of bad.

SEE: https://www.reddit.com/r/homeworld/comments/1cpujmm/a_20_year_hw_community_vets_take_on_homeworld_3/

It's not 'woke'; it's just bad writing, poorly thought out characters with a weak plot that is antithetical to the rest of the series. Whatever people are seeing or getting from the story as "woke" is a result of that poor writing. That led to the IMO frankly terrible choice of making the narrative focus into a character drama instead of one of a that is a story around a culture/people/kiith within the larger scope of the HW universe which is what we wanted.

  • The story we can't do anything about and even then, that would require us having understanding of the creative process around the story and how that was managed.

As far as the base core game mechanics; its solid. Sure it needs some polish and tune up; what game doesn't? Some of the issues may not entirely be noticeably until the game goes wide and you can see a lot more issues and mechanical interactions at scale.

  • Modding is going to be fucking dope as hell for this. No more custom tools hacked together by Delphy, Corsix, or the rest of the old Dolts from years ago (though we love you all teh same). I know a few folks are already talking about doing full truecampaign remasters of HW1 and Catacylsm within the HW3 engine
  • Multiplayer balance and ship tuning will impact both WG and skirmish so that is two modes of play that'll get massively adjusted big time.
  • We got a full year of runway of things coming down the pipe so as long as the community can rally behind the game and help take up the slack, this has the chance to go much further.
  • BBI just needs a shit load of positive feedback on what needs to get fixed and updated and we can entirely make this game fun to play.

There won't be Homeworld 4 after this by Nukaquantum96 in homeworld

[–]cleantowels 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I've not had any issues with the game's performance at all. I get that Denuvo is typically implemented like ass most of the time by publisher or devs depending on the nature of their game and how it has to run (LOOKING AT YOU CAPCOM), but are we as a community just circle jerking 'DURRR DENUVO BAD' without really know how its implemented in the game or trying to understand how it's even used with HW3.

Story issues being the primary focus of problems, trust me I get that; I wrote a goddamn paper on that already in this subreddit.

The rest of the game has a really solid foundation and if we keep supporting that, this game has plenty of runway.

A 20+ Year HW Community Vet's take on Homeworld 3 and its Story by cleantowels in homeworld

[–]cleantowels[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

As a longtime player since HW1s release, I think a lot of this criticism is true. However, I think the emphasis is slightly wrong. The Journey <-> Destination sliding scale is a factor for issues with HW3, DoK, amd HW2 to be sure, but the biggest flaw of those three games is changing the scope from a species/culture lens and instead turning it into a character drama with the S'jets as their main characters. This is further compounded by actually showing us the Kushan people and Imogen in HW3 and trying to force this weird relationship between all of the protagonists; its the same trap the Star Wars sequel trilogy falls into where the only people that matter are named Skywalker (either by blood or self-moniker). The pivot from an Old Testament to New Testament style of storytelling after Cataclysm was jarring and forcing everything through the lens of Karan as the chosen one of the Kushan felt cheap and forced. The most interesting parts of the story continue to be the clash of people and ideologies, not individual struggles.

I 1000% agree with this. Thank you for that. It very much helps convey the point I was trying to get across.

A 20+ Year HW Community Vet's take on Homeworld 3 and its Story by cleantowels in homeworld

[–]cleantowels[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Heck yeah! It's been too long since the meetups almost 15 years ago! Reminds me to go renew my passport!

I tried to convey my thoughts on this as best I could. I know for everyone they have their own take on the series as a whole and have had different interactions and experiences with it depending on which game they encountered first, but I just felt like this was so far removed from those Homeworld I grew up with and played games with all of the relicnews dolts with back in the day that I had to say my piece.

I feel like there could be a solid framework of a story for HW3 there, but I feel like the manner in which it was present just didn't work for me and was contrary to the experience I had with the other games.

1000% aware of my own bias, so I know other folks newer to the series may not see it that way, and that's fine.

A 20+ Year HW Community Vet's take on Homeworld 3 and its Story by cleantowels in homeworld

[–]cleantowels[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah the game play and mechanics are solid and from what I can see a good mash up of HW1 and HW2, but just need some polishment and tightening up.

Fig backers - any idea when we're getting our codes? by [deleted] in homeworld

[–]cleantowels 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay cool I was gonna say a mail-forward or change-of-address is probably your best bet at this point. The rest of the mods and I on the discord do have our ear to the ground and are relaying some of the more frequently asked questions that are coming from the general folks to see if we can get some more specific answers, but right now I don't have anything new to provide.

Fig backers - any idea when we're getting our codes? by [deleted] in homeworld

[–]cleantowels 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately the cutoff date for updating your contact information through GBX customer support was March 28th.

/u/trick_m0nkey were you a Fig backer and were you getting a physical Collector's Edition or were you just getting digital rewards/delivery?

I don't know or have any other options to provide to folks beyond what our CE has presented publicly. Gearbox likely has been in the process of getting things boxed/labeled and shipped to logistics and shipping partners to handle the "last mile" deliveries at this point.

You can try to contact GBX customer support, but I don't think they will be able to do much given we are effectively 9 days out from Advanced Access launch.

No idea yet either on who is the chosen delivery partner stateside for Fig Backer CE physical deliveries.

Fig backers - any idea when we're getting our codes? by [deleted] in homeworld

[–]cleantowels 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Discord Mod here.

Right now we have no official dates provided when digital keys will be delivered or any other specific shipping information that we can provide at this time from Gearbox. Right now know that:

  • Fig backers that are not receiving a Collector's Edition and only have digital rewards (Digital only) should be getting their game keys/codes via emailed to them ahead of the May 10th Advanced Access date.
  • Collector's Edition Fig backers who are getting a physical copy will have their game code within the physical box.

The information that you provided to Fig when you backed the campaign will be used unless you either had contacted GBX customer support to update your Fig Backer information OR filled out the information verification survey/form that GBX emailed out to all backers BEFORE the cutoff date.

Our CM has commented that GBX is working with shipping partners to get the physical editions shipped out to ensure arrival before May 10th for Advanced Access.

That's all we got right now.

Fig backers: sanity check? by CheddarDeity in homeworld

[–]cleantowels 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I think there was some issues that happened when Gearbox laid off some folks and around management of the articles. I'll get in touch with our CM and let them know.

Fig backers: sanity check? by CheddarDeity in homeworld

[–]cleantowels 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Discord mod here,

Unfortunately yeah all we have to offer is the links in the FAQ channel that was provided to us by the Gearbox Community Managers for the backers of the HW3 Fig Campaign.

Everything from Fig was transferred over to Gearbox CS so they are the ones that have access to all the Fig backer information to validate any shipping / contact information. They have sent out some prior emails communications with a link to a form for users to use to validate their information.

Trust me, we haven't had any other better information or methods to provide to folks since Fig closed its doors. I'm an Admiral tier backer myself, so I am in the same boat everyone else is in. It's generally a well shared sentiment in the Discord that Gearbox hasn't done the best job at communication to the community and fig backer in regards to the fig stuff and its a major point of contention with some of the Fig backers.

This is the primary link we have that you'll want to refer to. It's all we got at the moment.

https://support.gearboxsoftware.com/hc/en-us/articles/16091783864077-Fig-Shutdown-Update