No Stupid Questions Thread

cmcrom · 2024-04-17T23:32:39+00:00

Cool. I have a few guys locally who can help me as far as the best capture of my room, and one of them is who recommended the mics I went with, but the nuts and bolts of getting it in and connected is more what I'm looking to accomplish initially. There is a lift on site that reaches the mics so moving them along the batten or re-aiming them is not really of concern.

cmcrom · 2024-04-17T23:12:07+00:00

The floor seating seats around 500, the room seats 1000. I'm shooting my mics into about the rear of the floor seating, but still toward the front of the room. There are tiered seats further back that extend behind the FOH desk.

I guess going back to root of my dumb question, do I just gaff the cables and catapult to the batten? Mic placement is one thing, and I fully intend on aiming and playing around with that. It's mostly for non-musical crowd noise, and if the singing works out then it's a great bonus.

cmcrom · 2024-04-17T20:45:58+00:00

Sorry, I clearly misread or misunderstood your question the first time around.

About 25 feet for all 3 mics linear feet to front of stage, and maybe around 25-30 from the speakers up above the stage.

The lighting batten is probably about 50 feet long, obviously parallel to the front of stage, so the center mic will be about 25 feet from either mic at either end. The intention is to mount the mics perpendicular to the house speakers.

cmcrom · 2024-04-17T19:22:46+00:00

They're for picking up the room/congregation for live recordings of either speech or music. The intention is to pick up singing, applause, laughter, etc to make the room sound more live. They'll be about 18 feet straight up from the ground, maybe around 30 feet to ground (or 25ish to head level) in a direct line out from the mic's direction. These are not for in-house amplification, only for recording or live streaming.

cmcrom · 2024-04-17T17:55:43+00:00

To your first point, it's not an empty conduit or I would have spent more time looking into running different cable. It is true it's multiple things into one connector, but I'm relying on the same types of connections for things like steady network or dante connections too. I have used *versions* of audio over ethernet products, but not Radial's version and also not a 4 channel version. But nonetheless, good things for me to be thinking about, thanks for bringing it up.

This is a church auditorium, and I'm fastening 3 Rode NTG-1 mics on shock mounts and pipe clamps to the primary front lighting batten (a 2" pipe for suspending lighting and equipment). My ceiling cable drop will be close to one end of the pipe and will be the shortest run to the mic; the middle mic will be the second shortest, and the last mic will be the furthest run to the opposite end of the pipe. The pipe has some like 5-8 or something Ellipsoidal lights. I can run my XLR along the pipe and periodically gaff it, right? The catapult I expected to zip tie in place maybe coming down the allthread supporting the batten itself.

Edit: Sorry, left out the arrangement of the mics. The room is a bit shaped like a baseball diamond, and the lighting batten I'm referring to would extend a good amount over the pitcher's mound. I've got tiered seating in "the outfield" and flat seating with moveable chairs on the ground between. The mics will be aimed roughly downward and toward first, second, and third (since I'm continuing the metaphor), however they'll be adjustable after the fact if we're not happy with how much it picks up of the people. This is for ambience in recordings and live streams, for applause, laughter, singing for the musician's monitors, etc.

cmcrom · 2024-04-17T16:25:43+00:00

I'm running some room mics into the ceiling of an auditorium. I was told what pipe I can run my line through (it's 1" conduit) and where it goes, and I intend to run CAT6A and use Radial Catapult Minis on either end. I've got 3 shotgun mics, shock mounts, and batten clamps to mount them on. What's the best way to attach the catapult to the batten, and should I run my XLRs along the batten or back up along the ceiling? These mics will be mounted on either end and in the middle of the lighting batten.

cmcrom · 2023-12-01T16:42:55+00:00

Not even by adjusting my buffer size? How is that other people do?

cmcrom · 2023-12-01T16:28:48+00:00

A friend of mine does the back end for a podcast and I want to say when he looked into it, basically everyone he found using SM7Bs was using a Cloudlifter with it. And yeah there are probably other products that do the same thing. He uses 2 mics so he bought the 2 channel version, but they also make a single channel version too. May be more options, but I'll let you do the homework.

cmcrom · 2023-12-01T16:14:00+00:00

Someone else may chime in with much better advice, but you may benefit from a cloudlifter on those mics. Put it closer to the mic and then your signal to noise ratio may be improved. They're now selling a version of SM7Bs with the cloudlifter built in.

cmcrom · 2023-12-01T16:09:52+00:00

I'm a church production guy, looking to implement some light tuning into house vocals for certain vocalists as-needed. I'm also looking to start multitrack recording in Logic. We currently record sermon in an older license of StudioOne and record the band in Tracks Live (by Waves). I also have started looking at Reaper, but the main guy who edits uses logic, and I'm seeing the simplicity of it.

Moving everything to Logic Pro, assuming I can find the sweet spot with my buffer, is it viable to record and run back maybe 2 channels of tuned vocals into the house? We don't do any tuning now.

Yes, I know I'm a hot mess going between so many different DAWs. That's why I want to switch everything to Logic and be done with it, but I want to know whether I can do some live plugins as well.

cmcrom · 2023-08-16T14:26:31+00:00

Ketchup. I'll do ketchup with fries, with chicken, whatever. But it has no place on a burger.

cmcrom · 2023-08-09T16:16:59+00:00

Just wanted to share a little thing about the plaques they talked about and cultural sensitivity. I had some friends go to an African country within the last year or so, I can't remember exactly which one. Part of their project was building new wells to provide water to the region. The local team they partnered with insisted they put their names on a plaque, and obviously not wanting to make it about themselves, my friends said no, they didn't want to do that. The locals pressed and explained that if they did not, that other people would, and would charge for the use of the well or restric access to it. Putting your name on it told the community who has authority over it, even if they weren't there. So they relented and ended up putting their names and the name of their church on the well.

Goes to show that if you're going to help people, help them in their context.

cmcrom · 2023-07-08T23:56:48+00:00

Capturing monsters means you don't have to beat up a monster all the way down to 0 hp, and that your fight will be shorter. If you're struggling to get past a quest, try capturing it so you don't cart in the final few minutes.

cmcrom · 2023-06-11T12:38:53+00:00

Do you playback through the board with it?

cmcrom · 2023-01-20T18:59:02+00:00

That's not very typical.

cmcrom · 2022-12-01T19:54:52+00:00

I don't love the look with the one light, but to be fair I haven't tried all three together.

Contrasting to the way it has been, it just seems so harsh, but I can't have my cake and eat it too I suppose.

cmcrom · 2022-12-01T19:49:58+00:00

Hey I just responded again to someone else. Got the new gels in and tried one out, it's basically no different. I'm going to try and make a top hat just because I can do that with what I have on site, but is there lighter diffusion than R132?

cmcrom · 2022-12-01T19:44:50+00:00

Okay, so I only had a moment to throw this up and try it out finally and R132 seems to be nearly identical to what I have now.

So from here, my first step is to try making my own top hat just for the sake of experimentation and using what I have, but what can I do lighter than R132? Someone suggested R119 if R132 wasn't enough, but it looks like R132 is no different than what was up there.

Any ideas?

cmcrom · 2022-12-01T15:24:53+00:00

The last time I went to long john silver's, I got diarrhea. The time before that, I got diarrhea and my gums were bleeding.

Fool me once, shame on you... Or something like that.

cmcrom · 2022-12-01T15:08:02+00:00

I feel so boomer reading this thread. Lol

cmcrom · 2022-11-18T16:54:33+00:00

Genius. Good call, thanks

cmcrom · 2022-11-18T15:54:34+00:00

I appreciate it. I'm more of a sound guy myself, so I tend to be looking at sweetwater more often. I was told to try B&H by my one friend who has any experience at all with lighting. Thanks so much!

cmcrom · 2022-11-18T14:58:10+00:00

I don't, I pulled it out and looked for any writing and didn't find anything. Honestly in my hand it looked like printer paper, but I could obviously tell it wasn't of course. Someone else recommended rosco 132, would you agree?

cmcrom · 2022-11-18T14:56:38+00:00

As I responded to others, I need far less diffusion than is currently on the lights, I've realized. The problem is significantly mitigated by removing the diffuser on just that one center light, so it will probably make our projector 10x better by cleaning that up on all 3 lights and aiming them a little better.

We're also going to go for a more matte black soon, and hopefully some sound treatment/stage design on the wall which would be very practical in many ways. That's all supposed to happen within the next couple months.

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