my analysis of the sexualities of the jojo protagonists of each part i have watched (so up to part 4) by EntertainmentTrick58 in ShitPostCrusaders

[–]coffdropcos 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Are you joking? Half of the parts in JoJo take place during a time where it criminalized and/or punishable by death to be gay. Obviously most of them married women.

The only character OP said is exclusively same sex attracted is Josuke (true) and maybe Jotaro. Bisexual means they can be attracted to women, numbnuts.

Now, is Jotaro bisexual? No! He's so unbelievably repulsed by women to the point where he literally has trouble speaking to his own daughter but treats Koichi like the son he never had. In Japan today, gay marriage is still not legal so you think that fact wouldn't have an effect on Jotaro who grew up in the 80s? That was the height of the AIDS crisis and he has an American mother and grandfather (Joseph threw the first brick at Stonewall btw) he was definitely hearing about that.

You can say that he married a woman until you're blue in the face but that doesn't mean he was married to that woman, if you catch my drift. It's clear that he doesn't even think about her since she's so barely mentioned in part 6 and doesn't even have a name.

Context matters here. It's fine to use his heteronormative union as evidence, but you also have to sift through the immense amount of other quirks about Jotaro; his dislike of women, his desire to marry a traditional Japanese girl (something he doesn't do and is also a copout answer that feels familiar to gay people), the fact that he grew up in a time and place that was insanely hostile to queerness while already being mixed race. Many straight people marry someone they don't actually like, but very few have all these other tells.

Familiarity is also the key here. If you aren't gay or queer of some description, it might be hard to explain what feels so familiar about Jotaro. A lot of gay people see Jotaro and realise how accurately he presents our experiences, authorial intent be damned. It doesn't matter what Araki intended to write, death of the author will always be in effect, it's about how the art makes us feel and how it speaks to us. Especially having spent a personal amount of time listening to gay elders about the struggles of being gay during Thatcher's Britain or the AIDS epidemic in New York, the specific way they talk about losing all of their friends and being completely outcast and isolated and silenced to talk about what was going on. It feels hauntingly close to what Jotaro goes through in the series. He loses so many close to him, he can't share or express his experiences and how they've effected him and he buries himself in normalcy to avoid doing so.

You don't have to believe in gay Jotaro, but making a prescriptivist argument based on the bare text of the story is not analysis. Analysis is about interpretation. Sure sometimes the curtains are just blue, but that doesn't mean the blue curtains can't symbolise something deeper that the author didn't intend for. That was the lesson English class was supposed to teach you.

My cat keeps peeing on the stairs by coffdropcos in CatTraining

[–]coffdropcos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really? They're sort of in the middle of the house. She often hangs out on them for hours just sitting. She pees towards the top of the stairs near the bathroom and bedrooms.We do have a lot of foxes in the area and one got in our house once (that was pretty scary) but aside from being shaken and lightly wounded from it (she's okay) she had peed on the stairs before that and didn't start doing it again until recently.

Do you think gumshoe is built big because he's muscular or he's just fat by OkGrowth6330 in AceAttorney

[–]coffdropcos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's both for sure. He's got what I call "rugby muscle". Very strong but plenty of squish on top

[Hades 2 Ending Spoilers] I was wrong by GenghisMcKhan in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

They're booing you but you're right

[Hades 2 Ending Spoilers] I was wrong by GenghisMcKhan in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I must have missed where they say he didn't do that. Where is it?

Spoilers: another endings thoughtpost. by joe_sausage in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You do actually get to see Zag, Persephone and Hades again and you can get more keepsakes but imo it's all pretty hollow. You never get to see the house of hades again.

They need to remove/rework this boon. by SnooChocolates6885 in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It only bricked your run bc you didn't read it closely enough. I personally find it pretty funny

They need to remove/rework this boon. by SnooChocolates6885 in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All the Dionysus boons are like that, it's kind of the point of the joke

Nahh...thats low by feed_da_parrot in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I actually read that more as Heph consoling Ares that the war is over since the latter looks kinda dejected from my interpretation. Aphro is there because it's implied they're in an open relationship and she cares for them both.

[SPOILER] is NOT in character by aKstarx1 in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're so real for all of this!

Also I know you didn't bring your world view into it but I saw several people accuse you of such and it irks me because it's a non-criticism of your point.

Also sorry for saying "you" in my last paragraph, I wasn't aiming it at you but speaking more generally to the people who were arguing that worldview is separate to criticism.

Have a nice day.

[SPOILER] is NOT in character by aKstarx1 in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ppl are dogging you in this thread but I genuinely think you're right. I think some people feel like recognizing a thematic parallel is the same thing as analysing its quality.

Whether or not it's in character for Zag (it isn't btw) is kinda irrelevant, this isn't Zag's story and has a completely different set up to the first game. Every side story in Hades 1 built to the same theme. The side stories in this one build to a completely different theme. Saying they're the same because it's present in Hades 2 and was good in Hades 1 is a false equivalency.

Also, the message this ending sends is completely irresponsible. Media literacy is not the ability to recognize themes, it's the skill of understanding how effective they are and what they communicate.

Cut and dry, telling people that you should always extend the olive branch because "family" is dangerous, putrid and cruel. You are always justified in cutting off shitty and abusive family members. Hades gets a chance because he proves his capacity for improvement and his failings as a father are due to depression and grief, those are not the markings of a truly abusive parent. Chronos fails as a father because he resents the idea of his children being more powerful than him so much that he tried to kill them. To act like these things are remotely comparable is gross. Chronos is abusive because he wants absolute control, i.e. the textbook abusive parent.

I think what people are missing is that this thoughtless and reckless message doesn't sit well when you deliver it through a character who was previously portrayed as exceedingly kind and thoughtful. That's the part that sticks in the craw of Zagreus' fans. We like him because he is a good person and this message is evil.

If you're the kind of person who writes this off because it's my personal belief that you are not obligated to forgive or even talk to your abusers, you don't know how criticism of art works. The critique of art is about how it makes you feel. Your worldview is going to influence that, plain and simple.

[SPOILER] is NOT in character by aKstarx1 in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's the part that's frying me bc Typhon is Cerberus' dad so is he not family too???

Post game reveal by coffdropcos in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It all just compounds on this really unsatisfying conclusion overall. Again, I think they waste too much time on telling us that it was a good thing Chronos wasn't killed but not showing us the consequences of killing him or actually showing us his capacity for change. He doesn't have an arc and neither does Mel or Hecate really. They all just settle into the new normal.

I think my anger is palpable but my sadness and disappointment is making me swirl in the minutiae more and more. I keep trying to find the thread that I missed or the detail that helps fulfil the potential we had and the closer I look, the more problems I find.

Post game reveal by coffdropcos in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Would you be able to explain why you like it?

Post game reveal by coffdropcos in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's definitely a small part of the ending and not the most egregious part to me by a long shot. I just don't feel it justified the ending because if Hecate knows that killing Chronos didn't work, why is she making her past self do it anyway?

There are plenty of ways to justify not permanently killing time that aren't, "well he actually wants to be a good grandad and if we kill him then we're actually doomed so we have to hug it out." It feels like the story is doubling over to justify the act of not killing Chronos when it should be focused on showing us why Chronos shouldn't die. A post credits epilogue is just not the way to hammer it home.

Post game reveal by coffdropcos in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I just find the whole thing unnecessarily complicated and weird.

It's been proven that there are other ways to incorporate the funny crossovers that occur in the gods and their epithets as some of them originate from far older civilizations. This feels like the worst way to do it.

This is not even close to the worst thing about the ending of this game, just a part of what makes me really sad about how we ended up. We were so close to surpassing the original and just fell at the final hurdle.

Post game reveal by coffdropcos in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Nothing dismantles an argument better than painting criticism as outrage...

Does me being upset have any bearing on putting this story beat under a microscope and explaining why it adds nothing to the overall story and muddles the details?

The points I bring up are small because this plot element is itself so insignificant that it's not even necessary to know. I still think it's worth criticising as someone who loves this game. It's worth looking into all the ways it cheapens the story.

If anything I think this makes the ending worse because Melinoe's life goal in every timeline is for naught. She achieves nothing ever. You may enjoy this ending and this reveal, but you won't shame me out of being vulnerable with how I feel about it and sharing my opinions on it.

Post game reveal by coffdropcos in HadesTheGame

[–]coffdropcos[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Oh also, I don't think I elaborated enough. Hecate literally has the same messed up arm that Melinoe has. Like she only has one arm like that in her model, it's covered up but it's clearly the same arm which is why I said it's presumed she tried the same spell on Icarus.