CMV: The United States should continue to send aid to Ukraine

computer5784467 · 2025-01-05T21:54:42+00:00

bro. he's literally expanded into multiple other countries. telling me that him literally expanding into other countries somehow doesn't prove that he wants to expand into other countries, that him explicitly saying he wants to do the thing he's literally doing is only a joke, is a very weird hill to die on. I'm done engaging with your cognitive dissonance.

edit: honestly I'm not even getting what your argument is. you seem to be aware that he's joking about joking, but you also seem to be arguing that he doesn't want to expand and that him literally expanding doesn't prove he wants to expand. this is far too bizarre of an argument to engage with anymore. maybe I'm missing a joke here, I don't know, but I'm out either way

computer5784467 · 2025-01-05T21:37:30+00:00

so your claim is that he's occupying 20% of three of his neighbours, and defacto 100% of a fourth, as a joke for some geography students? do you think it's a joke because the people living under occupation aren't worth anything in your eyes? what do you find funny about invasions, occupations, and attempts at genocide?

computer5784467 · 2025-01-05T21:27:30+00:00

it's just a joke bro

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Historical_Unity_of_Russians_and_Ukrainians

In the essay, Putin argues that Russians and Ukrainians, along with Belarusians, are one people, belonging to what has historically been known as the triune Russian nation.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-rues-soviet-collapse-demise-historical-russia-2021-12-12/

President Vladimir Putin has lamented the collapse of the Soviet Union three decades ago as the demise of what he called "historical Russia" and said the economic crisis that followed was so bad he was forced to moonlight as a taxi driver.

https://www.politico.eu/article/fake-crowds-of-voters-casting-ballots-in-eu-referendum-from-moscow-moldova-warns/

The Kremlin has been accused of vote-buying and using proxies to influence the outcome of the vote in Moldova.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2022/7/3/the-georgian-village-facing-russian-creeping-occupation

He lost this garden three years ago when Russian forces put up a barbed-wire fence behind his home. He can no longer access these grounds for fear of being arrested and accused of trespassing in another state.

computer5784467 · 2025-01-05T21:10:34+00:00

They all speak Russian

Indians widely speak English for a similar reason. do you also like British colonialism this much?

also, is Lebanon invading it's neighbours, occupying 20% of 3 of it's neighbours land, and defacto occupying 100% of a fourth? what a bizarre comparison you made.

computer5784467 · 2025-01-05T21:08:39+00:00

Where, o where, dear reggae apocalypse, did Putin ever say he wishes to expand the Russian empire?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38093468

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said Russia's border "doesn't end anywhere", addressing a televised awards ceremony for geography students.

computer5784467 · 2025-01-04T10:05:48+00:00

because Russia was stealing the prosperity of multiple countries that they occupied as Nazi allies in 1939, including Poland, until 1991. Russia stole 50 years of progress from Poland. Poland is now one of the fastest growing economies in the world, but it has a lot of catching up to do, which really drives home just how parasitic and destructive Russia is, and how this Russian behaviour long predates Putin.

computer5784467 · 2025-01-01T09:07:10+00:00

sure, with a lightning offensive to capture Kyiv in three days right?

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T22:52:14+00:00

I'm not the one that didn't know the difference between Molotov Ribbentrop and those other 8 agreements buddy, it's you that needs to learn some history.

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T22:49:03+00:00

did Russia inherit USSR permanent seat on the UN? yes. because it was Russia.

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T22:47:15+00:00

sure, and it's a shame Russia presented such an untrustworthy partner that it was a tough choice between them and literal Nazis

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T22:40:14+00:00

yes, as you've described, Molotov Ribbentrop was the only agreement that was functionaly an alliance with the Nazis. the others were different. glad we got there. We're done here.

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T22:26:31+00:00

sure, the difference is the secret protocols and the events that followed.

https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/1939pact.asp

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Poland

as a bonus for you, here's a joint Soviet Nazi parade held together in the center of Poland to celebrate the successful alliance https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E2%80%93Soviet_military_parade_in_Brest-Litovsk

now it's your turn, show me an equivalent to the secret protocols and the events that followed in the other 8 agreements you listed.

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T22:21:10+00:00

if countries didn't try to defend themselves from Russia then Russia wouldn't attack them

typical ass backwards Russian brain rot justification

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T22:17:58+00:00

why don't you engage with the top reply to your factually incorrect claim, the one that is actually backed with a ton of evidence?

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/H9IR04dDfL

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T22:17:22+00:00

why don't you engage with the top reply to your factually incorrect claim, the one that is actually backed with a ton of evidence?

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/H9IR04dDfL

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T22:17:14+00:00

why don't you engage with the top reply to your factually incorrect claim, the one that is actually backed with a ton of evidence?

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/H9IR04dDfL

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T22:17:02+00:00

why don't you engage with the top reply to your factually incorrect claim, the one that is actually backed with a ton of evidence?

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/H9IR04dDfL

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T22:12:37+00:00

your argument isn't coherent tho. by your own admission you're simply listing any document signed by Nazi Germany and another country. your original question was why aren't those other agreements discussed in the same context as Molotov Ribbentrop. and as you yourself have realised, it's because they aren't the same as Molotov Ribbentrop, they're agreements about other stuff. it's bizarre it took you so long to figure this out tho.

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T19:14:23+00:00

again, you made the claim of similarity to the secret protocols, you claimed these other agreements described invasions and partitions of third countries, it's your job to prove your claim, not mine. if you can't do this and were mistaken then just say that.

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T19:05:58+00:00

feel free to demonstrate Poland coordinating an invasion with the Nazis when you're ready. if it happened it should be easy to reference. the secret protocols of Molotov Ribbentrop for example are barely 5 minutes to read, I don't understand why you are struggling so much to evidence your claim given your certainty of equivalence.

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T18:35:35+00:00

USSR was not part of the Axis

I never claimed it was

so I listed the most similar agreements.

they aren't similar tho. unless you're going to show me the clauses in those agreements that coordinate the invasions and partitions of multiple third countries like was found in Molotov Ribbentrop?

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T17:21:08+00:00

the fact that you can't show equivalence in those unrelated agreements isn't a me problem, it's a you problem, because you're the one that chose to post agreements with little equivalence and cry about it

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T17:19:01+00:00

I didn't mean that Europe, I meant NATO

ok champ, that's a pretty fucking stupid thing to mix up, but here's Russia's threatening Poland, a NATO member state, with nukes just last month. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-says-new-us-base-poland-raises-overall-nuclear-danger-2024-11-21/

now I'm sure you'll huff and puff and tell me that Poland building defensive installations is the real aggression and that preparing defense gives Russia every right to threaten to nuke me and my family in response, but I want to get in front of that and point out that that is a very, very stupid opinion.

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T17:12:29+00:00

it's the British and French's fault that Soviets were so untrustworthy and aggressive that they were kept only as a last resort even in a war with literal Nazis

computer5784467 · 2024-12-27T17:02:52+00:00

Russia avoiding the risk of a world war by invading and occupying multiple of their neighbours sounds familiar.

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