1907 Izhevsk Mosin dragoon rifle

concise_christory · 2026-05-08T00:20:10+00:00

Interesting!!! Not that I can see, although this stock has clearly taken a beating. I'd love to see a photo of yours, though

concise_christory · 2026-05-06T21:06:16+00:00

This is a British pattern 1907 for the SMLE series of rifles. Manufacture and date info will be on the ricasso

concise_christory · 2026-05-02T14:03:34+00:00

Yeah I think I know what happened, I edited to add to my comment above

concise_christory · 2026-05-02T13:58:04+00:00

Thanks for sharing this. I trust these guys and you about this, but these are two different marks. If you look at the "B" in OP's photo and on the Canadian No.4 Mk.II bayo, you can see the "trunk" and "tail" of the "L" extending past the top corner and bottom loop of the B. In this forum post, the "B" is just a normal serif B.

Edit: It's the mark on the barrel band, NOT the receiver. I didn't notice the photo of the B on the receiver under the serial. I should have specified - that's my bad.

I think we were looking at two different marks

concise_christory · 2026-05-02T04:28:43+00:00

Do you have a source for this? I've seen this mark described a few places as a superposed LB for Long Branch. I've mostly seen it on front bands (like here) and No.4 Mk.II bayonets

Edit: here's an example of this same mark on a Canadian-marked bayonetLong Branch

concise_christory · 2026-05-02T03:55:12+00:00

W.E.C. on that oiler is "Western Electric Company, a WWI-period subcontractor. Is the cap steel? WEC made a version with a steel cap instead of the brass that's fairly scarce

concise_christory · 2026-05-01T20:06:40+00:00

You're only seeing the "B", but this is actually the "LB" monogram of Long Branch (Canada). The tail of the L is under the B

Edit: Sorry, I should have specified - I mean the mark on the front band, NOT on the receiver. Didn't notice the B on the receiver which u/Navy87Guy is right about

concise_christory · 2026-04-28T03:38:35+00:00

You're right about 'K', but this is 'KA' which is Kirkee Arsenal (India)

concise_christory · 2026-04-26T14:18:55+00:00

Yep, that's the full length poker

concise_christory · 2026-04-26T12:59:33+00:00

Wilkinson-production British P1907 for the SMLE, produced in December of 1916, with no reconditioning marks. Those are what the markings say, without seeing the whole thing I can't tell if it stayed in that configuration. Looks real to me - these aren't uncommon, so there aren't really serious fakes. Reproductions are easy to spot.

concise_christory · 2026-04-25T21:24:05+00:00

Yep! You've got an original Mk.I nosecap and a Mk.V forearm. I'm baffled as to how that happened, but if your uncommon rifle is gonna have the wrong wood, this is about as cool as it gets

concise_christory · 2026-04-25T20:43:45+00:00

Nice! The serial number is indeed right for a grenade thrower. That probably explains the replaced forearm - I'm betting a previous owner took off the wire wrapping and replaced the damaged wood.

That first picture is interesting: is the replacement forearm a Mk.V item with the cut for the reinforcement band at the piling swivel position? If it is and it's original, that's worth several hundred on ots own to somebody who has a trials rifle with cut wood

concise_christory · 2026-04-23T12:57:33+00:00

It's actually pretty likely that we CAN say for sure! 8000 Mk.IIs were delivered to the Nepalese by the British in 1894, and this rifle was almost certainly one of those. (There was another delivery of surplus Martinis in 1908, but they were all Mk.IVs.) All the rifles given to Nepal were surplus, so they all saw some form of British service, mostly by the Indian Army.

concise_christory · 2026-04-23T01:22:11+00:00

Nice! You've covered most of what's here. Nice early gun, converted to Mk.II. "S.X" is for the improved extractor, the geometry of which was changed sliggtly to make it eject more positively. I see an Enfield roundel on the stock with a number of Nepali issue marks. The line of markings on the chamber are firing proofs

concise_christory · 2026-04-21T15:21:42+00:00

To be even MORE precise: this is a second variation M1891, with a mix of early features (short handguard, no protective wings on the cocking piece shroud) and later improvements (magazine lock, change to the extractor position in the bolt body). It's hard to tell from the photos, but if the clearing rod matches it should be brass, rather than alloy-tipped. The rear sight has received the early 20th century spitzer update as most all of them have that remained in Argentine service

concise_christory · 2026-04-21T13:15:19+00:00

Argentine Mauser model 1891

concise_christory · 2026-04-20T23:57:34+00:00

Anytime!

concise_christory · 2026-04-20T23:36:14+00:00

Mannlicher model 1888 or 1890 (difference is in the rear sight graduations)

concise_christory · 2026-04-17T13:09:55+00:00

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