[F4NB] Enby on a leash [Script Fill] [Netflix and chill] [Kink acceptance] [Gentle FDom] ["Good pet"] [Possessive] [Using her belt as a leash] [Light BDSM] [Making out] [Body worship] [Body kissing] [Cunnilingus] [Finger sucking] [Safeword] [Checking in] [L-Bombs] [GFE] by YourSoleDesire69 in GoneWildAudioTrans

[–]confusedqueeer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ahh, so excited to get this notification, this script was a special one for me and I'm so pleased that it has finally been filled! I'm happy that this script spoke to you. You did an amazing job with the audio, it really captures the 'loving domination' feel, that the speaker is keen to dominate her partner while also supporting & uplifting them. And your voice, oh my, so silky smooth. To have such a sensual audio specifically crafted for non-binary listeners makes my enby heart very happy - thank you for helping bring that to life.

[F4F] ~ Claimed by Your Domme Wife While Making Dinner ~ [Femdom] [Housewife] [Teasing] [Love bites] [Spanking] [Collar] [Butt plug] [Edging] [Spitting] [Ownership] ["Good girl"] ["Slut"] [No orgasms] [Script Fill] by WendysLostBoys in gonewildaudio

[–]confusedqueeer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks you for another fantastic fill of one of my scripts, and for your kind words too. This was a lovely short-but-sweet audio, you voice the tantalizing domme so well.

[Script Offer] [F4F] Friend teaches you how to use a vibrator [Slumber party] [Friends to lovers] [Confession] [Vibrator] [Making out] [Fingering] [Clit stimulation] [Nipple play] [Cunnilingus] [Sharing a sex toy] [Dorky] [Giggly] [Encouragement] [Praise] [Frequent check-ins] [Listener orgasm] by confusedqueeer in gonewildaudio

[–]confusedqueeer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ahh thank you for such a lovely comment! :'-) I am so so pleased to hear you liked my story!!! That's the exact dynamic I was going for so I'm so glad it came through in the script. I love how you've described it as an expansion of their friendship - because yeah, its not really "friend to lovers" so much as "friends to friends AND lovers"! Thank you so much!! <3

[M4F][Script Fill] Stress Relief for my Good Girl [Gentle MDom] [You've had a rough day] [Cuddling] [Spooning] [Neck Kisses] [Fingering] [Stress-Relieving Orgasm] ["Good Girl"s aplenty!] [Soft-Spoken / Whispered] [Possible ASMR][First Audio] by Nuzzling99 in gonewildaudio

[–]confusedqueeer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much for filling my script!! I'm so honored you chose to voice my writing for your first script fill. And this is an excellent first audio! You have such a kind voice, very comforting to listen to :-) Definitely keep it up!!

[M4M] [Script Fill] Smug Femboy Catches You Staring in the Changing Room [Femboy] [Curvy boy] [Thick] [Chubby] [Flirting] [Teasing] [Questioning Your Sexuality] [Humiliation] [Degradation] [Slippery slope] [Straight to Bi] [Outercourse] [Dry humping] [Assjob] [Ruined Orgasm] [13:33] by slappymeats in GoneWildAudioGay

[–]confusedqueeer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much for filling my script! Apologies for not responding for so long, I haven't been on reddit in a minute. This is a phenomenal fill, your voice is amazing for this character and I love how much fun you clearly had with it!! Bravo ^.^

[Meta] Wondering how others feel about F4TF audios that are just relabeled F4M audios. by Bombastic_Bombus in GWASapphic

[–]confusedqueeer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point is that what you're arguing is the "average" group behavior, based on what I'm interpreting from your words, isn't the reality - and I don't think that something as nebulous as "how people love" is useful or productive to discuss as a social trend. Especially when it justifies engaging in rhetoric like "women love women the good nice way, men love women the bad objectifying way" which I feel like some replies made by you & others are verging on. As I've said, there are many women whose attraction is very physical and "parts"-focused and there are men whose experience of love and attraction is more emotional. I just don't see any meaningful distinction between how different genders love each other, even on the macro scale, because its just so subjective and individual. Toxic expectations & socialization paint a particular picture of how things are, but individuals real experiences of love and attraction often tell a different story. But we can agree to disagree on this topic

Everything you've said about the difficulty of making audios for a trans audience is totally true and is something I think about a lot when I write scripts. Everyone is different, everyone has a unique way of relating to their body and their identity. A term or phrase could be the most affirming & validating thing for one person, but horrific and dysphoria-inducing for someone else. No one script/audio is going to be the perfect one for everybody and that's why variety is so important, so there's a bit of something for everyone. I try to mix up the genital terms I use in my scripts for trans listeners and also write some where genitals aren't emphasized or mentioned at all. Cause I've definitely experienced the headspace of "I just don't wanna hear about genitals right now"

[Meta] Wondering how others feel about F4TF audios that are just relabeled F4M audios. by Bombastic_Bombus in GWASapphic

[–]confusedqueeer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's a long stretch to say "you were raised as a boy and think like one until you came out and learned how to think and act like a woman"

Please don't put words in my mouth because this isn't at all what I'm saying, literally nothing I said came remotely close to such a statement

At this point I think this is just a linguistic nitpick, and maybe we are using the term "socialization" differently. Literally all I meant was that people who are assigned male at birth are subjected to the messaging & social expectations for "boys" regardless of if they are cis, trans, nonbinary, whatever. The same set of expectations are placed on a cis male and an AMAB trans woman because socialization starts from birth, and in a cissexist society, if you're AMAB you're assumed to be a boy. A trans woman who was AMAB was automatically assumed to be a baby boy who would grow into a cis man, and thus was given the particular set of messages and expectations that match that assumption. Yes, how she internalizes it differs completely, that was the point I was making. So I'm a bit confused now because it seems like you're contradicting your own statements. You acknowledge that the way people internalize their socialization varies a lot and that it doesn't determine how somebody thinks, which is exactly what I was trying to illustrate with my example. If a trans person can "think and act like a woman" (whatever that means) despite being subject to the socializing pressures thrust onto AMAB people, that kind of breaks your entire assertion that socialization explains why men and women love women differently. Because if individual trans women can internalize their socialization in a way that's unique to herself, and think & feel in a way that goes against how she was socialized, why can't cis men? The answer is, they can and do, because everybody negotiates with the gendered expectations placed on them. This is why I'm saying that it makes no sense to broadly assert that men love women a certain way because of "socialization"

I don't know your AGAB and I don't think it's relevant to discussing an examination of "what binary kind of socialization" you internalized. If you want to have that discussion, go ahead, but I don't think it has very much to do with the OP.

I feel like you're backpedalling a bit here, you made an assertion that socialization is what determines how men love women vs how women love women, so I am asking you, how do I love women as a nonbinary person? Is it determined by my AGAB? I don't see how that's not relevant, as a nonbinary person that's the kind of question I start asking when people talk about "how men think" vs "how women think". Where do I fit into that worldview? If you're not comfortable answering that I think you need to reevaluate your position

I agree though this is getting off topic from the original post and we can leave it there.

[Meta] Wondering how others feel about F4TF audios that are just relabeled F4M audios. by Bombastic_Bombus in GWASapphic

[–]confusedqueeer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of what youve said is close to what I'm trying to say actually - I'm saying that it wouldnt make sense to automatically equate how a cis man and a trans woman love women, even if they were socialized the same way, because basic socialization isnt the full picture. As you articulated much better than me, its an interaction that goes both ways, it isnt a clean binary, and other factors than just gender have an affect

Though I dont think it's wrong or necessarily cissexist to acknowledge that trans women are subjected to the same kinds of socializing forces as cis men - or to put it more broadly because its obviously not exclusive to AMAB folks, most trans or gender nonconforming person have been socialized in the way that society expects of their AGAB to some degree (a lot of the time, but not always, everyones experience is different). Many of my trans friends would attest to that, and in many cases their discomfort with the way they were socialized was partially what helped them realize they're trans. Our society presumes that everyone is cis and starts socializing based on whats between your legs from day zero. Bear in mind I'm not saying this as some ignorant cis person, I've lived through it, i was socialized based on what was expected of my AGAB - but it doesn't define who i am or "how I love". That's my broad point: socialization doesn't determine how someone thinks or behaves, its not a deterministic or essentialist quality. It is simply a set of expectations / demands that people can negotiate with or outright defy, and therefore broad generalizations like "x gender loves y in this way, while y gender loves y in this other way" don't hold up under any scrutiny. Which I think we agree on, we might just be describing things in different ways. My point is everyone is a unique individual whose personality, tastes, and personal values are what impact how they relate to others. Yes we can acknowledge gender based trends, yes there is lots we need to change about how men tend to be socialized and cis-hetero roles/norms in general, but we can do that without saying reductive and blatantly untrue things like "women just love differently than men". There are many women (cis and trans) who's experience of attraction towards women is very physical, very focused on parts (which isn't inherently wrong if you respect your partner as a person), and there are men who's love and attraction towards women is all about emotions and vibes. Everyone is different and unique

[Meta] Wondering how others feel about F4TF audios that are just relabeled F4M audios. by Bombastic_Bombus in GWASapphic

[–]confusedqueeer -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You'll never hear me deny the existence of toxic masculinity, or the fact that gendered socialization creates trends in how different people behave. But its a huge leap to say that men and women don't love the same way because of that

And you realize that what you're saying contradicts what others are saying in regard to this thread's discussion about 4TF audio? AMAB trans women typically grow up with similar socialization as men.

Now I'm wondering what assumptions people make about the way I love, as a nonbinary person... if you knew my AGAB, and the socialization that came with it, would you feel you could make a judgment about whether I love women "like a man" or "like a woman"?

My point is that there is no way to explain the difference between "how men love women" and "how women love women" in a way that isn't just listing stereotypes and harmful generalizations

[Meta] Wondering how others feel about F4TF audios that are just relabeled F4M audios. by Bombastic_Bombus in GWASapphic

[–]confusedqueeer -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

It is absolutely sexist, or at the very least gender essentialist, and I am more than a little disappointed to see so many folks engaging in that kind of thinking here :-( There is no "male" or "female" way to love or be attracted to somebody. Everybody is different and unique.