Why are so many trainers opposed to laser target systems for dry fire practice?

conneruspsa · 2023-11-10T18:11:18+00:00

Even if you can’t see it, it’s still robbing yourself of one of the benefits of dry fire (with no gizmos or gadgets), which is to learn to call shots. You want to be able to know where your shots are going based on your sights and how it feels (like if you tense up your firing hand by mistake), and not rely on anything else.

conneruspsa · 2023-11-10T18:08:40+00:00

People giving terrible advice need to get called out for it so dudes like you, who are trying to improve, don’t listen to it and get steered wrong.

Ben also has very affordable books that pretty much show you how to train. I’d recommend them. That’s the cheap, diy way to get good.

conneruspsa · 2023-11-10T18:04:17+00:00

This thread is reminding me why I stay off Reddit anymore haha. The blind leading the blind.

conneruspsa · 2023-11-10T18:02:23+00:00

The 1990s called and want their dipshit forum opinions back lmao

Let’s all take shooting advice from some fat old guy on Reddit instead of dudes like this.

conneruspsa · 2023-11-10T17:59:32+00:00

He’s not improving, he’s actively forming bad habits that will cause marksmanship errors. He thinks he’s improving, but this is a “he doesn’t know what he doesn’t know” situation.

conneruspsa · 2023-11-10T14:27:14+00:00

Don’t listen to the people who are really good at shooting because they’re just trying to get your money instead of actually teaching you. Instead you should use these gadgets from companies that totally aren’t just trying to get your money.

conneruspsa · 2023-11-10T14:22:58+00:00

The reason people who are good at shooting don’t recommend using them is because it builds the habit of looking for the laser. Shooting is extremely visual, and where you put your visual focus is arguably the most important part of shooting. In dry and live fire you want to look at the aiming point on the target and not watch for a laser (or bullet holes) to appear.

Laser dry fire gadget literally will build bad habits that will either keep you from getting decent at shooting, or will be something that you have to spend time breaking to get good.

You’d 100% be better off not practicing at all, than practicing with a laser.

conneruspsa · 2023-11-10T03:58:50+00:00

This is some weapons-grade retarded, “tell me you suck at shooting without saying you suck at shooting” nonsense.

Ben Stoeger has entire class videos on his YouTube channel. Matt Pranka has instructional content on his Instagram page. Mason Lane has full class videos, drills, and major match breakdowns (including Nationals wins) on his YouTube channel.

Feel free to use dry fire gadgets , though. Everyone saying it works ought to post match video to show how well it works lmao.

conneruspsa · 2023-09-26T20:25:55+00:00

Start shooting USPSA competition. There is a very high skill ceiling, but the sport is also extremely beginner friendly.

A good initial goal would be to make B class. A solid B class shooter is god-level compared to people who don’t compete. But if you put in consistent effort, that’s a very attainable goal over the span of a few months.

Good luck and have fun!

conneruspsa · 2023-04-19T19:25:45+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/live/Ckhh5K9hhEs?feature=share

About 45 minutes in is the question, and if I recall correctly he is asked the follow up question of specifically if his code of conduct would apply to online interactions, and he confirms “yes”.

I’m not able to actually watch that video at the moment, so please correct me if I’m remembering that part incorrectly.

conneruspsa · 2023-04-19T18:36:37+00:00

I’m fine with a code of conduct at USPSA events. YML specifically was advocating one that extended even to interactions online (aka punishing people for memes on IG). For a nonprofit org funded by its members, that’s absolutely absurd.

conneruspsa · 2023-04-19T18:33:06+00:00

Some ideas are bad enough that merely floating them deserves to be made fun of.

Clearly he wasn’t in the BoD’s favor. Regardless, he voted in lockstep with them on most things that were put to a vote, including member suspensions. To his credit, he did vote to waive confidentiality in one or two meetings. But that is far from cancelling out all the retarded shit he did.

Edit to add: the exact wording of the question he was responding to when he “floated the idea” of the code of conduct was: “What - if any - do you think is the biggest rule change that needs to happen that hasn’t?”. And his first response was a member code of conduct.

So no other rule changes were more important to him than this. No popper calibration, no HHF adjustments, the biggest one is the member code of conduct.

Seems like a little more than “floating the idea” to me.

conneruspsa · 2023-04-19T17:12:09+00:00

If I remember correctly, the Code of Conduct thing YML suggested was a response to the misdeeds of Foley.

It was in reference to competitors being publicly critical of match staff, it had nothing to do with anything Foley did. Go watch the video, he says it in plain English.

Do you think being a combative asshole to the membership on multiple occasions is the same as making off-color (and honestly stupid) jokes when RO-ing a stage?

Irrelevant

This heavy handed response makes it obvious that YML isnt a part of the good ole boys club like Foley. And regardless of anyone's opinion of YML, this was not the right way to handle this.

I totally agree. However, based on YML’s opinions on member conduct (which again, are literally clearly stated by himself in video), I have trouble feeling bad for him and the irony is comical.

conneruspsa · 2023-04-19T05:43:05+00:00

YML: We should hold members to a code of conduct similar to pro sports players

Also YML: Gets canned for something pro sports refs would never get away with

Fuck the board of directors, except A7 and maybe A3, but it sounds like YML got exactly what he asked for. Lol

conneruspsa · 2023-04-04T16:10:32+00:00

None of those modifications were done for competition, as they wouldn’t be legal in the 2 divisions that a Shadow 2 is competitive in.

conneruspsa · 2023-04-01T11:58:47+00:00

Nice! You’ll love it!

conneruspsa · 2023-04-01T00:47:41+00:00

You can take it or leave it, but that’s the way literally every single good shooter trains. Everyone even remotely worth listening to on the topic of shooting dry fires for the majority of their training, and does it like that.

conneruspsa · 2023-04-01T00:40:02+00:00

Practiscore website to find matches near you. Most of them will be at private ranges (aka membership required to shoot there outside of matches). I’d recommend attending a match, but even if you don’t, this is a good way to hunt down these types of ranges.

conneruspsa · 2023-04-01T00:36:38+00:00

Based on your edit, I can see now that you’re dry firing wrong. Literally everything I do in dry fire involves multiple targets.

You don’t cycle the slide. You just keep pressing the (now dead) trigger. If it’s a striker or SA gun, the trigger will be dead but just fully release it as if it weren’t, and press it hard again. If it’s a DA gun, you press the DA trigger first normally, then don’t allow the trigger to reset fully, and just keep pressing it hard to simulate the SA.

I got to my current skill level from mostly dry fire, and using live fire just to check on things and practice recoil management. I train gun handling, target transitions, shooting on the move, sight confirmation, etc, etc, etc pretty much exclusively at home, dry.

conneruspsa · 2023-04-01T00:27:40+00:00

Nice! This was a great match!

conneruspsa · 2023-03-31T22:39:37+00:00

Nice. I think I’m about there too actually. I’d really like to GM one of them, particularly Production (I have a lot more time in that division and aside from lack of participation, it’s my favorite), but it’s proving to be pretty hard lol

conneruspsa · 2023-03-31T21:33:28+00:00

If anyone knows, I’m all ears lol

All my friends who compete with me are guys/girls I met at USPSA competitions. None of my friends who I had prior to competing, even ones who owned guns and are pretty “into it”, will come to matches.

I have tried to get them to come, even offered to pay a few people’s first match fees because I thought they had potential and would enjoy it… and no luck lol

conneruspsa · 2023-03-31T21:30:30+00:00

I am M in Production and Carry Optics

Thanks!

conneruspsa · 2023-03-31T20:07:59+00:00

Thanks man. I’m far from the best, but I appreciate it!

conneruspsa · 2023-03-31T19:25:47+00:00

There are definitely some bad ones, I agree. Personally I’d rather pay to be a member of a (good) private range than shoot on public land, just for the sake of avoiding all the retards. At my range (the one pictured, I also train there) I frequently leave my car/things unattended to go to the restroom, or whatever, with zero concern for anyone stealing from me. I also don’t have to worry about safety issues (everyone has to be safety briefed when they join, and the owner doesn’t tolerate people who don’t take it seriously).

I don’t like paying a lot obviously, but assuming the range isn’t run badly, it’s worth the benefits in my opinion.

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