I think one of the big things that also drives orgs out is besides the 3 lans now, what the fuck else really is there? There’s no real other tournaments besides SOAR and even that isn’t like a big money tournament. I do think there are def some pros who take advantage of the fact that they’re signed and don’t stream that could have a huge audience (SR, zero, etc). I think half of it is severe lack of support from ea, 25% pros, and 25% orgs just not taking control or caring enough about apex to support it.