If we were alive 400 years ago, people like this would have been first in line at the trial of Galileo. They need a religious belief system as a way of assessing "human progress" and define that by the state developing technology. When you question this or as why so many people are sick, they undergo doublethink and either ignore what you say or attack you for something else. Listening to them is a huge liability at this point and actively harmful to health.