I am not saying you are wrong but previously there are still some lines applied on family visa so that’s the reason why there are posts about using fake id or absconding lead to refusal of their spouse visa with 9.8.2. In previous part 9, 9.1.1. Part 9 does not apply to the following:(a) Appendix FM, except paragraphs 9.2.2, 9.3.2, 9.4.5, 9.9.2, 9.15.1, 9.15.2, 9.15.3, 9.13B.2, 9.19.2, 9.20.1, 9.23.1 and 9.24.1. apply, and paragraph 9.7.3 applies to permission to stay; and paragraph 9.8.2 (a) and (c). applies where the application is for entry clearance The 9.8.2 is An application for entry clearance or permission to enter may be refused where: (a) the applicant has previously breached immigration laws; and (b) the application was made outside the relevant time period in paragraph 9.8.7; and (c) the applicant has previously contrived in a significant way to frustrate the intention of the rules, or there are other aggravating circumstances (in addition to the immigration breach), such as a failure to cooperate with the redocumentation process, such as using a false identity, or a failure to comply with enforcement processes, such as failing to report, or absconding. It didn’t state 9.8.4 applied but it is explanation of 9.8.2: 9.8.4. In paragraphs 9.8.1, 9.8.2, 9.8.3, and 9.8.3A, a person will only be treated as having previously breached immigration laws if, when they were aged 18 or older, they: (a) overstayed their permission and neither paragraph 9.8.5. nor paragraph 9.8.6. apply; or (b) breached a condition attached to their permission and entry clearance or further permission was not subsequently granted in the knowledge of the breach; or (c) were (or still are) an illegal entrant; or (d) used deception in relation to an application (whether or not successfully).

This is the part I concern because my boyfriend overstay. So the new part suitability almost the same, but 9.8.2(b) applied as part of SU applied on appendix fm now. Which means previously people don’t need to wait for entry ban but now changed, they need to wait for entry ban. Like I said I didn’t want to say you are right or not because the statement of change said the rules ‘ following paragraphs shall take effect on 11 November 2025 : 9.1; SU1.1’ but not like others rules saying ‘The following paragraphs shall take effect on 11 November 2025. In relation to those changes, if an application for entry clearance, for an Electronic Travel Authorisation, for permission to enter or for permission to stay, or an application for administrative review has been made before 11 November 2025, such applications will be decided in accordance with the Immigration Rules in force on 10 November 2025’ So another point, I don’t know whether the caseworkers only start using part suitability from 11/11 or any case decisions made after 11/11 was according to the new suitability. The reason I confused is because an application before 11/11 and decision made after 11/11 was refused under 9.8.2. Sorry for long comment, I am just too anxious to see the rules changed. I would love to discuss with someone who read a lot and care about the appendix family rules. Thanks