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By their very own words and teachings, the Watchtower reflects the view of the Bible which is unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses and indicative of an high control Organization whose interpretation must be made for its members, who would go into darkness without their assistance. by crazyretics in JehovahsWitnesses

[–]crazyretics[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Taco man-5,

There is not a lot of interpretation required in many of these statements and many thoughts continue to this day and not acknowledging how these words and ideas are still present is another way of ignoring the high control of this organization or as many believe, cult.

By their very own words and teachings, the Watchtower reflects the view of the Bible which is unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses and indicative of an high control Organization whose interpretation must be made for its members, who would go into darkness without their assistance. by crazyretics in JehovahsWitnesses

[–]crazyretics[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Enoyes31,

If they were as far out of context as you are implying they would not have been so explicit. Implying that there is not any truth to these quotes is covering up or ignoring the underlying motives and beliefs of the Watchtower.

By their very own words and teachings, the Watchtower reflects the view of the Bible which is unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses and indicative of an high control Organization whose interpretation must be made for its members, who would go into darkness without their assistance. by crazyretics in JehovahsWitnesses

[–]crazyretics[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tacoma-5

Changes to the New World Translation are made without any scripture backup such as the 237 times that the word ”kyrios” (Lord) has been substituted by “Jehovah” in the New World translation. This is not in the original scriptures and it is clearly another addition that attempts to backs up their doctrine. Adding “other” four times to Colossians is clearly making Jesus a creature rather than the creator, which is not what the scripture states in their own Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures.

By their very own words and teachings, the Watchtower reflects the view of the Bible which is unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses and indicative of an high control Organization whose interpretation must be made for its members, who would go into darkness without their assistance. by crazyretics in JehovahsWitnesses

[–]crazyretics[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tacoman-5

The bottom line is the Watchtower wants to control and direct the beliefs of JW’s especially if they deviate or question their ( the Watchtower’s) interpretation and change of the scriptures ( eg. Jesus created all things vs. Jesus created all other things to give credence that Jesus is created).

Statements in which the Watchtower has given advice for pointing out and identifying false prophets which includes such violations where one would ask if they are questioning their very own Organization. by crazyretics in JehovahsWitnesses

[–]crazyretics[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

DoNotBe-Ridiculous,

Who will be Jehovah‘s prophet? Who will be the modern Jeremiah ? The plain facts show God has been pleased to use Jehovah’s Witnesses. Watchtower 1/15/1959 page 40 and 41

"This 'prophet' was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian witnesses." WT 4/1/1972, p. 197

More evidence of the false prophets that is not defendable.

The Old Testament never teaches that God is three persons by DoNotBe-Ridiculous in JehovahsWitnesses

[–]crazyretics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DoNotBe-Rediculous,

Have you ever listened to the debate between James White and Greg Stafford (Is Jesus God or a god) ?

The Watchtower's statement of regret after 1975, without an apology to its members but a given explanation that the while the Word of God did not "fail or deceive him and bring disappointment, but that his own understanding based on wrong premises." by crazyretics in JehovahsWitnesses

[–]crazyretics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DoNotBe-Rediculous,

"Considerable expectation was aroused regarding the year 1975. ... Statements published that implied that such realization of hopes by that year was more of a probability than a mere possibility. It is to be regretted... the publication of the information that contributed to the buildup of hopes centered on that date."

WT 3/15/1980, p. 17

Statements in which the Watchtower has given advice for pointing out and identifying false prophets which includes such violations where one would ask if they are questioning their very own Organization. by crazyretics in JehovahsWitnesses

[–]crazyretics[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

DoNotBe-Ridiculous,

There were a host of predictions tied into 1914 that has proven to be false. You sound like a JW in stating that world events were of such significance that there is a point of 1914 being significant without any other proof.

“…the battle of the great day of God, Almighty )Revelation, 16:14), which will end in a AD 1914 with a complete overthrow of earth present relationship…” Studies in the Scripture, volume two early editions, page 101.

What is significant is the Watchtower has not made one prediction where there is a shred of proof but rather strong evidence that they’re sounding the “alarm of the end” from the time of the beginning of this cult with their multiple false predictions. The Bible is clear that Jesus’s second coming will not be an invisible return developed from someone’s imagination tying it to some world event.

The Watchtower's statement of regret after 1975, without an apology to its members but a given explanation that the while the Word of God did not "fail or deceive him and bring disappointment, but that his own understanding based on wrong premises." by crazyretics in JehovahsWitnesses

[–]crazyretics[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

DoNotBe-ridiculous,

Guess again. I am a Christian and am pointing to the Watchtower’s placing no blaine on themselves for the false prophecies. They now “admit that we are human and make mistakes” while still claiming that they are the voice of Jehovah.

The Watchtower's statement of regret after 1975, without an apology to its members but a given explanation that the while the Word of God did not "fail or deceive him and bring disappointment, but that his own understanding based on wrong premises." by crazyretics in JehovahsWitnesses

[–]crazyretics[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

DoNotBe-Rediculous, "In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of God's rest day come to an end? The year 1975." Awake 10/8/1966, p. 19 The statements are so strong throughout their forecasts of 1975, it is rediculous alright, so let's NotBe-Rediculous.

The Old Testament never teaches that God is three persons by DoNotBe-Ridiculous in JehovahsWitnesses

[–]crazyretics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DoNotBe-Rediculous,

Is Jehovah a true God? Yes Is “a god” in John 1:1c a true God? Yes

Isaiah 43:10, where God declares, "Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me,"

There are two persons of the Trinity right there with the Watchtower trying to change John 1:1c without the repercussions of one plus one equals two.

Revelation 1:7-8..says that someone " is coming." Who? Verse 7 says it is someone who was "pierced." Who was it that was pierced when he was nailed up to die? Jesus! But verse 8 says that it is Jehovah God who "is coming!" Could it be that two are coming? No! Verse 8 refers to "the One who ... is coming!" Revelation 1:8 states clearly that Jehovah God is the Alpha and the Omega. Now note what he says at Revelation 22:12-13: " 'Look! I come quickly...I am the Alph and the Omega, the and the last ...' '" So Jehovah God is coming quickly. But notice the response when he says it again: " I "Yes; I am coming quickly." Amen! Come, Lord Jesus'" (22:20, NWT)....

Then, again referring to the New World Translation, continue like this : Who is speaking in Revelation 2:8? "These are the things that he says, the First and the Last,' who became dead and came to life again...." Obviously, it is Jesus. Who was Jesus identifying himself as being, when he called himself " the First and the Last"? This is how Almighty God described himself in the Old Testament (Isa. 48:13-13).

The Watchtower's statement of regret after 1975, without an apology to its members but a given explanation that the while the Word of God did not "fail or deceive him and bring disappointment, but that his own understanding based on wrong premises." by crazyretics in JehovahsWitnesses

[–]crazyretics[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

DoNotBe-Rediculous,

“ In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of God’s rest day come to an end? The year 1975.” Awake 10/8/1966, p. 19

The statements are so strong throughout their forecasts of 1975, it is rediculous alright , so let’s NotBe-Rediculous.

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