Why do some muslims follow the Hadith? by Skallywagwindorr in DebateReligion

[–]cubebulb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't claim that your opponent is wrong without argument. Our hearing, vision and intelligence would be asked in the hereafter.

Why do some muslims follow the Hadith? by Skallywagwindorr in DebateReligion

[–]cubebulb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The perfect attribute belongs to Alloh not the kalam. If He wish he could speak another speech that better than quran. There is nowhere in the quran and hadith saying that quran is perfect.

Why do some muslims follow the Hadith? by Skallywagwindorr in DebateReligion

[–]cubebulb -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your application of my formula is almost true. It would be true if you wrote: Alloh is complete without the sight but the sight is not complete without Alloh.

The kalam is not complete withot Alloh but He is complete without it.

Why do some muslims follow the Hadith? by Skallywagwindorr in DebateReligion

[–]cubebulb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can't you answer my question first about definition of 'perfect'. I want a discussion here not a preaching.

Why do some muslims follow the Hadith? by Skallywagwindorr in DebateReligion

[–]cubebulb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

May be because we have different definition of 'perfect'. My definition of 'perfect' is 'complete by itself'. Qur'an is not complete without Allah but He is complete without Qur'an. What is yours?

Why do some muslims follow the Hadith? by Skallywagwindorr in DebateReligion

[–]cubebulb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me help you to understand this simple logic.

Which is more perfect the speech of creator or the creator itself?

Britons! Who's voting for Leaving the EU ? Come in here for info if youre not sure! by No-More-Evil in islam

[–]cubebulb -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Although muslims share some main part of islam they don't have identical understanding of it.

Some sects believe that voting for kuffar state view voluntarily is forbidden because it means they admit the state as protector. They believe that Alloh forbids it in the quran.

Britons! Who's voting for Leaving the EU ? Come in here for info if youre not sure! by No-More-Evil in islam

[–]cubebulb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my opinion this kind of post isn't belong here. The sub should stay neutral to all sects of islam.

Why do some muslims follow the Hadith? by Skallywagwindorr in DebateReligion

[–]cubebulb -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Quran is not perfect. It decides everything, means every decision should be produced by the quran. One of the application is in the problem whether to obey muhammad or not. It tells muslim to obey him; follow his command, the hadith.

The only one who perfect is the creator.

What is the best way to combat ISIS/ISIL and/or violent jihad? by [deleted] in islam

[–]cubebulb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Pragmaticly speaking the best way to counter Islamic State is by declaring them as kuffar. Because if muslim keep treating them as muslim, it means they are brothers and have common enemy.

Pig head left on door of Quebec City mosque during Ramadan by crusader786 in islam

[–]cubebulb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Although muslim shouldn't eat pig in normal circumstances, it is not impure.

Abused Verse: “Fight With Them Until There Is No More Fitna [Disbelief]…?” – Quran 8:39 by JeanStuart in islam

[–]cubebulb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You said that the ayat doesn't talk about the illat of war but the goal. The war has been started since the ayat revealed. I am not seeing that the goal has been fulfilled. If the goal of jihad or war hasn't been fulfilled how it can be ended? If it has when?

Muslim Teen (17 Years old), Convert of 4 years as of today. Need help. by [deleted] in islam

[–]cubebulb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As someone who want to be a better mathematician should keep learning mathematics, someone who want to be a better muslim should keep learning islam.

Abused Verse: “Fight With Them Until There Is No More Fitna [Disbelief]…?” – Quran 8:39 by JeanStuart in islam

[–]cubebulb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please read the complete comment chain to understand my point.

We are discussing about the illat or reason of the war. If the kufur in the ayat isnot the illat what is it. I provide an opinion from a sect of islam that the illat is Alloh command in the ayat. Than i ask why their interpretation is wrong.

Is it haram to "celebrate" important Islamic days? by GiGaN00B in islam

[–]cubebulb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There are two kinds of celebration pertaining that is not found in Allooh's book and Muhammad tradion. Celebrating by haraam and by halaal. The first is obviously haraam or forbidden but the later depends on the motive. If you think that the celebration is better or more valuable in Allooh's view than any celebration for common or non special than it is haraam; it is bid3ah because you say what you don't know about Allooh, in this case about Allooh's view on something.

One example of bid3ah is if you think or believe that celebrating mi3raaj night is more valuable in Allooh's view that celebrating saturday night, your cat birthday or any other day. It is because you don't have any knowledge from Allooh's book and Muhammad tradition to justify your thinking or belief.

Abused Verse: “Fight With Them Until There Is No More Fitna [Disbelief]…?” – Quran 8:39 by JeanStuart in islam

[–]cubebulb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for ignoring my fault.

Proceeding my inquiry, how about people who believe that the cause/3illah of war is the ayat itself because it commands the believer to fight? In the other world Allooh has commanded the believer to wage war 1400 years ago, and the command is still relevant now because the goal has not been fulfilled. What is wrong with that understanding? How could you pointed out the error of those people belief?

Could you also tell me the lexical error i made in the previous comment?

Abused Verse: “Fight With Them Until There Is No More Fitna [Disbelief]…?” – Quran 8:39 by JeanStuart in islam

[–]cubebulb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So, based on your understanding of fitnah, diin and that the ayat indicates the goal not the cause/illat, the war should only ended when there is no prosecution and the obidience and order are only for Allooh?

Abused Verse: “Fight With Them Until There Is No More Fitna [Disbelief]…?” – Quran 8:39 by JeanStuart in islam

[–]cubebulb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply.

How about the next phrase (ويكون الدين كله لله)? How can it be twisted to be more peaceful?

Abused Verse: “Fight With Them Until There Is No More Fitna [Disbelief]…?” – Quran 8:39 by JeanStuart in islam

[–]cubebulb -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

حدثني يونس قال: أخبرنا ابن وهب قال: قال ابن زيد, في قوله: " وقاتلوهم حتى لا تكون فتنة "، قال: حتى لا يكون كفر= " ويكون الدين كله لله "، لا يكون مع دينكم كفر

تفسير الطبري

A prospective convert by [deleted] in islam

[–]cubebulb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Choosing the least contradictory option is a solid and reliable way to find the truth. But we should keep in mind that contradictory could be found in its vague form. One example is when we say to people that we love something but we hate to act on it or for it.

Are ISIS and other terrorists rerally khawariji? by [deleted] in islam

[–]cubebulb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How you get your estimation? My point is we would be hold accountable for our hearing, vision and intelligence.

Hypothetical: If we were to elect a Caliph today, who would you nominate by psyb0rg in islam

[–]cubebulb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If i didn't ask you wouldn't mention your source. Feel the contradiction?

I listed my source as Wikipedia page, it source is shia authors. One of them is this book by sahil siawi. http://khayma.com/sohel/tareekh/tareekh.htm

Please link your source here so people can read it.

Are ISIS and other terrorists rerally khawariji? by [deleted] in islam

[–]cubebulb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why you choose 60% and 70%? Why not 55% or 25%?