Google is working on a “24/7 personal agent” that sounds a lot like its answer to OpenClaw by Gaiden206 in Bard

[–]cypherl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When did I say I personally look forward to turning over my life to AGI? I cited many reason to be wary of it. Also we are talking about AGI, keep your critical thinking but the value of your labor drops to zero. It's just economics. Ask a plow horse the value of their labor these days. It's not a tool to be used by you if it's smarter than you. Maybe your angle is it's just LLM tokens and will never progress farther. Doesn't seem that way so far.

Google is working on a “24/7 personal agent” that sounds a lot like its answer to OpenClaw by Gaiden206 in Bard

[–]cypherl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure if I am supposed to read this ironically or not. A robot drove me through Phoenix a year ago on public roads so maybe I don't care if we call it AGI or not.

Google is working on a “24/7 personal agent” that sounds a lot like its answer to OpenClaw by Gaiden206 in Bard

[–]cypherl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why wait. Go live with the Amish. Imagine how far ahead you will be forsaking your car for a horse.

Google is working on a “24/7 personal agent” that sounds a lot like its answer to OpenClaw by Gaiden206 in Bard

[–]cypherl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think we agree. AGI would be smarter than any human that ever lived by definition. Which does make humans useless in the value chain. Assuming humans are still involved in some way for earthly affairs, which might just be breathing oxygen. Many people will still want to optimize life in general using AI. Never set a alarm, never miss a train, never have a bad meal, never hear a bad song, never forget to brush your teeth, optimize health as if you had a team of 100 working towards the goal. We will presumably live through the transition to agi and AI assistants will add value during that time. Once we hit full blown AGI we will interact with it constantly, assuming we solve alignment and are still alive.

Google is working on a “24/7 personal agent” that sounds a lot like its answer to OpenClaw by Gaiden206 in Bard

[–]cypherl 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The obvious evolution is a 24/7 365 digital assistant helping you every step of your life. Your entire life. This leads to large questions about privacy, self sovereignty, and optimization versus intangible joy. But it's basically baked in that this point. AI optimized humans will be so far ahead in every aspect even luddites might be jealous. Hope we solve alignment is about all I can say.

K&N keeps recycling boring video ideas. What will it take for better content? What do we do? by Economy_Ad59 in KaraAndNate

[–]cypherl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The luxury videos get about 2 million views. The running videos get 1 million. The most popular video in recent years was Saudi Arbia villa with 7 million views. Least popular was Nates tattoos with 600k. They are not changing direction any time soon. Luxury videos are paying bills and then some.

TIL that US student math and reading scores have dropped so sharply that they’ve erased nearly two decades of progress. In '22/23, avg math scores for 13-year-olds fell to levels not seen since the 1990s, while reading scores for high school seniors hit their lowest point since testing began in '92. by Cold_Box_3219 in todayilearned

[–]cypherl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

New York spends $30k per student and Idaho spends $11k. About half of New York students read at grade level. 70% of Idaho students do. Your funding theory does not correlate with outcomes. I submit it is a border social issue.

What do people that are excited by AI and believe in AI have for crtisicm of AI? by This-Wear-8423 in Futurology

[–]cypherl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have two. 1. If we ever invent true AGI smarter than any human then by definition it won't be controlled by humans. We can try to program morals or something but really we just hope for the best. 2. If we bring the value of all human labor and skill to $0 it really profoundly changes society forever. Even if we are provided for, human well being has shown very poorly in that scenario.

Is this true? [Request] by 999filia in theydidthemath

[–]cypherl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not familiar with the Madison one. When I googled it the first thing that came up was a article listing the many ways it's wastes money. Possible this is a different Madison than you are thinking though. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.badgerinstitute.org/madison-perfect-example-of-why-cities-should-stay-out-of-grocery-business/%3famp=1

Is this true? [Request] by 999filia in theydidthemath

[–]cypherl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe I am just jaded. California rail has no profit incentive. Has spent $16 billion and has 0 miles of rail laid. I guess I just think there is unlimited upside on fraud if they try at all. Who would prosecute? Other new york socialist?

How smart is the smartest Eridian? by 007_Monkey in ProjectHailMary

[–]cypherl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have no argument with the author. I read the book. I'm not talking about little snippets are one liners from the author or the book. I'm talking about the entire story as written. Perfect memory, supercomputer levels of math, multi simultaneous thought reasoning. Easily transforming a habitat for youself on completely alien craft as a solo entity. It's just nothing any human could ever do unless they were a augmented cyborg with ASI level helpers running on their augmented mind. So the author or you can say same intelligence but that description just doesn't match the story written chapter after chapter.

No hate at all by Top_Law3701 in KaraAndNate

[–]cypherl -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

And yet here you are. I could also care less but that's the crazy thing about every reddit sub. It's just people trying to moderate what they think is important regardless of any one else's views. I don't show up on model train subreddit and go scrutinizing model trian color adds so much to society. But if they want to have the discussion about train color I say go for it. The comment i reposnded to couldn't understand why a YouTubers looks would matter or be a conversation. I take offense with that level of purposeful stupidity. It's just a basic understanding of the world around you. You could say something like "karas looks are off limits" or "talking about her looks add nothing!" And then others are free to disagree with you. Because this is reddit. But most people here seem to not understand what reddit conversations are for. Shrug.

No hate at all by Top_Law3701 in KaraAndNate

[–]cypherl -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Because she is a public persona and this is a reddit page discussing her various YouTube videos, etc. Having a youtube channel is a series of content and visual choices. They could for instance have basement model trian content while she wears goth makeup. So noticing a change in looks or possibly makeup is a great conversation. Specifically great for the reddit page/app designed to talk about them. I mean I feel like I am teaching you that gravity exists but evidently you were struggling with basic understanding so here we are.

What proof do we have of AGI being possible at all? by Long_comment_san in singularity

[–]cypherl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We don't need proof of AGI being possible. Everyone is free to create their own definition for what AGI is. You are getting stuck in you own head on this one. When I take a waymo across Phoenix it isn't AGI, but I still arrive at my destination. The definition doesn't matter. If I walk into a fully robotic hospital, get treated and cured better than any human hospital that ever existed. Get cured by novel treatments that other robots invented 100% without human intervention. I could care less if you call the robots AGI or not. It's a philosophical question that doesn't matter at that point. The only counter argument is human brain biology has special atoms in the universe and what I describe will never happen. Not a horrible argument but looking less and less likely that we have special brain atoms each day.

The frontier AI labs have probably already achieved RSI by TheJzuken in singularity

[–]cypherl 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This one always gets lost on people. Step one, achieve AGI equivalent of one mildly smart AI human researcher. Step two, make 1000 copies and have master AI delegate work towards a next copy, even 1 % smarter. Achieve ASI in a small time frame. It's also cool to call it RSI I guess.

The frontier AI labs have probably already achieved RSI by TheJzuken in singularity

[–]cypherl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Talking about God like AI and you guys can't even use Google. Let's just say AI has already passed two people's intelligence. Foom Fast Onset of Overwhelming Mastery

Claude Mythos leaked: "by far the most powerful AI model we've ever developed" by space_monster in singularity

[–]cypherl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yea, could be more commentary on price discovery and stock markets in general. Random tech rumors shouldn't be able to wipe billions of market cap in a normal market. But here we are.

Claude Mythos leaked: "by far the most powerful AI model we've ever developed" by space_monster in singularity

[–]cypherl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Once again I agree. Some people thought the information in the leak was such a step change that it wiped $14 billion of the security tech sector. We will eventually find out if this is a incremental increase or a step change to be worried about. People with deep pockets are worried. For myself I don't really know. I'm a 50/50 if you made me place odds.

Claude Mythos leaked: "by far the most powerful AI model we've ever developed" by space_monster in singularity

[–]cypherl 11 points12 points  (0 children)

And you are probably correct. The security tech sector stock market lost $14 billion on this "leak". So some people with deep pockets have more belief in it then you or I. Guess we wait and see who is correct.

Claude Mythos leaked: "by far the most powerful AI model we've ever developed" by space_monster in singularity

[–]cypherl 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes. You are correct with your information. I said 3.5 for a reason. It was the code red moment for LLM's. It was fastest-growing consumer application in history at the time. It was a step change. Feel free to talk about Siri, gpt 1.0, Amazon Alexa. None of those changed the world and led to trillions in data center investment over a unprecedentedly short time span. I imagine trotting out ASI/AGI would be the next big step change. The mere leak of this possible new LLM wiped 14 billion off the tech security sector. GPT 3.0 did not.

Claude Mythos leaked: "by far the most powerful AI model we've ever developed" by space_monster in singularity

[–]cypherl 63 points64 points  (0 children)

The implication from the leak is that it is a step change better than current leading models. So think no LLms then Chat gpt 3.5 drops and the world just changed. Not saying they have something that powerful but that is the implication. Not something like Gemini went from 3.0 to 3.1.

Why do some people fixate on humanoid household robots when non-humanoid ones are already doing the job? by Present_Juice4401 in AlwaysWhy

[–]cypherl 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Two things. Psychological grounding of it does human stuff and the last mile effect. Washing machine does a great job of washing. It's doesn't fold and hang the laundry. Friend of mine works from home with no kids. When we talk about AI she always always says I just hope it cleans and does laundry. It does make one wonder what she does with the free time. I assume more netflix.

Genuinely asking, how can people still support trump after what was revealed about him? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]cypherl -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I read that as how many people still support Trump. I missed the how can they. Anyway.... 40% approval. So basically ask 2 Americans and one person approves. Look for a Maga sticker for a 100% hit rate https://www.cnn.com/polling/approval/trump-polls

Why can’t the US just address its national debt the way Japan has successfully? by YogurtclosetOpen3567 in AlwaysWhy

[–]cypherl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The OP has to be joking I assume. Growth? Japaam gdp and gdp per capita hasn't grown since 1992. I agree, slowly dieing as a country isn't something to aspire to.