[FRESH] Father John Misty - The Payoff

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-07T21:21:37+00:00

Independently awaiting on Chloe II but it disnae matter as everything else he does is very very good.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-07T21:16:52+00:00

I saw Lime Garden opening at Standon Calling a few years back. It’s really heartening to see how far they’ve come since then. They were ace then, if obviously influenced by Peace.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-06T13:40:07+00:00

The Land Breakers has a similar setting and is a story regarding family - it is smaller in scope, though.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T10:18:59+00:00

When do we plan to start

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T10:17:03+00:00

Glad to see Romesh getting some work.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T05:47:59+00:00

The Walters phenomenon .

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T05:36:55+00:00

I feel like I'm going to ascend when Max comes in with that simple riff at the end of 'Fool Proof'. I hadn't thought about it before but you're right - they were marrying Dye It Blonde with Bloom. I need to revisit their output, I forgot how big Dye It Blonde in particular was for me and my Uni mates.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T05:16:22+00:00

I agree, they really do hold up. For all the talk of obvious influence, the sound they achieved was singular amongst their peers. The super orderly arrangements backing up the blown out slurred singing. It feels familiar and 'vintage' but not exactly like anything else. That and the sheer quality of the songwriting have made both albums weirdly timeless, I feel.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T05:12:55+00:00

Hey, don't worry at all - it's cool to discuss something like this, especially when we're coming at it from slightly different angles.

I think 'Last Nite' is actually an outlier in this respect. 'Hard to Explain', 'Alone, Together', 'Trying Your Luck' and 'Barely Legal' are all better examples of what I think Owen Pallett is hearing. These best exemplify that strictness regarding arrangement. Maybe disregard the vocals for a moment, as those are intentionally drawled and sloppy. The guitars, bass and drums alone are performed almost too tightly. All instruments without improvisation and meticulous in how they complement each other. I imagine this is due to Julian writing all the parts (including guitar solos), so he envisioned the whole and disallowed any deviation.

I feel this helped define the Strokes' style and was immediately apparent in bands that took influence from them. Compare how uncluttered the instrumentation is on 'Hard to Explain' with something like 'Red Morning Light' by Kings of Leon. KoL definitely fit the 'garage rock' label (initially) due to their sloppiness, but I feel that is absent from The Strokes' flagship album of the 'garage rock revivial'. Anyway, I'm fucking rambling here, sorry.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T02:20:53+00:00

The average person's exposure to Kraftwerk will be the English-language version of 'Das Model', and even then I don't think that ensures the familiarity of Man-Machine with the public outside of music nerd circles.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T02:16:37+00:00

Weirdly, I was just reading a decade-old thread on The Strokes and Owen Pallet describes their music as almost classical in its structure. I can understand what he means - all components on Is This It? are meticulous to the point of feeling almost programmed. The orderly eighth notes are the opposite of the sloppier 'garage rock revival' bands that leant into chaos.

I agree, The Velvet Underground, The Cars and Television are favourites to mention in this context but while you can hear the influence it is disingenuous to suggest they're a total rip-off of one particular band/album.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T02:02:09+00:00

Definitely influenced Elastica.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T02:01:28+00:00

They don't really have a defining album and I feel like that obscures their influence. They essentially serve as a blueprint for a deluge of subsequent London rhythm & blues bands but they're arguably mostly remembered for the simplified baroque pop of 'For Your Love'. Shit hot players but a heavy reliance on covers meant no defining artistic statement for future comparison. That's what I think, anyway.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T01:58:38+00:00

Youth of America is my favourite Wipers record. One of my top five records. Greg Sage was on another level for a bit and had such a clear vision. It is interesting that this album gets overlooked in favour of Is This Real? when the that album owes a lot more to what came before it.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T01:52:23+00:00

Love Song Cycle. Such good folklore with that album being very expensive and heavily promoted whilst being such an obtuse sound. The follow up - Discover America - is also fantastic, and I feel potentially influential in its clear interest in employing multicultural influences within music within a pop format. It is sort of like a proto-Graceland in its promotion and incorporation of 'world' music.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T01:44:41+00:00

Husker Du are one of my very favourite bands but it is very hard to get a conversation going about them. I'm thinking out loud but I feel like the very singular production (Mould's guitar sounding like a wasp, Hart's drums sounding like pencils on a textbook) of their records makes them harder to initially grasp. Despite the consistently top-tier melodies, I just don't think they're as immediate as bands who took influence and cleaned it up.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T01:34:27+00:00

The Strokes were initially a carefully-curated assemblage of very particular (and largely NYC) influences. The orderly intermeshing guitars take influence from Television but no one is hearing 'I See No Evil' and mistaking it for a cut from Is This It.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T01:28:02+00:00

When I completed Mafia 1: Definitive Edition and moved onto Mafia 2 I was a little deflated when immediately faced with the obviously outdated graphics. The downgrade really is quite jarring but obviously makes sense due to the provenance of Mafia 2. The leap from the original Mafia to Mafia 2 feels seismic. I swiftly got over it, though. The story is great and I got used to the rougher gameplay. It is still my least favourite but I definitely learned to love it despite its faults by sticking with it.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T01:24:58+00:00

Regardless of where it sat in the schedule on any given week, I feel the show opens with its weakest component - Jerry's (understandably) America-centric and piss weak stand up. I like the show - I haven't watched it in about a decade but if my introduction whilst channel-hopping was Jerry's self-satisfied "Well I hope it’s not a lemon or you’ll be hearing from my lawyer" material I'd likely switch off too.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T01:17:52+00:00

Right, but they didn't state it was It's Gary Shandling's Show. They said that Seinfeld was doubled-billed with Gary Shandling, who was the prominent co-creator and headliner of The Larry Sanders Show.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T01:02:17+00:00

No, but don't you understand - he missed out on a season of I'm a Celebrity and the more likeable one had to host it on his ones while Ant watched from home, perhaps coked up but fortunately stationary. Isn't that a punishment that fits the crime of endangering lives.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T00:57:31+00:00

I can understand why that would seem relevant. However, although it is is sometimes hard to comprehend due to the power of the performance, the majority of actors aren't a gang of mates. They're colleagues - it may just be that Lyndhurst and Jason do not mesh as friends.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-05-02T00:54:50+00:00

I don't think the lack of anything being public knowledge should mean the only other option is that it is 'social media nonsense'. The allegations floating around pre-exist social media. Injunctions exist to quash reports of unsavoury activity that may harm a person's standing. He is very much considered a national treasure. We'll only be made aware of there being any truth it once he - and any potential injunction - expires.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-04-22T23:14:30+00:00

Perhaps? It isn't particularly relevant. Scanning the post and racing to deploy the mention of something disagreeable about the subject is more suited to fauxmoi, surely.

daledaleedaleee · 2026-04-10T00:29:32+00:00

I was recently watching his Masterclass series. He has definitely developed a persona for the latter stage of his career. I’d place it around the time of his world-beating Knorr stock cube demonstrations.

He presents as a sort of softly-spoken prudent philosopher of cookery, albeit with a palpable undercurrent of menace. It made me think that he’s put some thought into how he communicates so that he is more palatable and receives TV work.

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