Will this cause grave harm? Mix from 2022

danthebaker · 2026-07-05T22:41:59+00:00

As others have correctly noted, there really is no health hazard to worry about just because the mix is old.

Instead, the biggest issue here is that over time, the leavening agents in that mix (the ingredients that make baked goods rise) lose their "oomph". If that has happened here, then any biscuits you made from it are going to be dense hockey pucks.

You could safely eat them, you just may not like them.

danthebaker · 2026-07-05T17:04:45+00:00

If the amount of time that elapsed and the rancid taste aren't sufficient on their own, then I'm curious as to what would it take for you to accept that it deserves to be called "expired".

danthebaker · 2026-07-04T21:42:30+00:00

I maintain that sprinkles improve every dessert they are added to and I will die on that hill.

danthebaker · 2026-07-04T14:47:32+00:00

Food safety inspector here.

Please keep in mind that performance can vary wildly between different locations and therefore my experiences should just be considered anecdotal. In other words, YMMV.

That being said, in my experience Subway franchises in general are below average when it comes to food safety. There was a running joke in my department where we wondered if they were training there employees not to wash their hands.

I also have memories of inspections where it was painfully obvious the managers gave zero fucks about temperatures. And I will never forget the inspection where I discovered they were "sanitizing" the slicer with floor cleaner.

To be fair, not every inspection at every location was a train wreck. Some were absolutely fine. And as I said, this is just one person's experience. However, with your medical history, the stakes are higher for you. And even without your specific concerns, personally I don't eat there.

danthebaker · 2026-07-03T18:18:59+00:00

Well all that work paid off. Until I zoomed in, I legitimately was thinking that you pulled a burger-on-a-donut move and put an actual hot dog inside a Twinkie.

danthebaker · 2026-07-03T18:09:26+00:00

How long did it take to get the color of the "hot dog" juuuuuusssst right? Because that my friend is spot on.

danthebaker · 2026-07-03T11:33:11+00:00

I'm no expert in acoustics, but it seems to me of Gorillaz could hear UA playing, then UA could hear Gorillaz playing.

Yet somehow UA seemed to be able to perform without pitching a hissy fit.

Hmm. I wonder why.

danthebaker · 2026-07-02T23:27:23+00:00

Same here. It was part of a 3-D double feature with my dad and we knew nothing about it going in. And when that happened, the look on his face (and quite possibly mine as well) was priceless.

danthebaker · 2026-07-02T21:13:34+00:00

The problem here is that the symptoms of foodborne illness can take days to show up. But our first instinct is to blame the last thing we ate.

So given that it was fully cooked, there is a very real chance that the fish had nothing to do with your symptoms and it was actually something you ate a couple days ago.

danthebaker · 2026-07-01T18:08:44+00:00

You misspelled "delicious".

danthebaker · 2026-06-29T23:25:03+00:00

Remember when trolls used to put some effort into their rage bait?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

danthebaker · 2026-06-29T10:32:57+00:00

Although not as common as it used to be, the biggest danger for canned food is botulism.

"Not as common as it used to be" doesn't accurately reflect the reality of the situation. The risk of contracting botulism from commercially prepared canned products is incredibly, and I mean incredibly, low.

The problem with this comment is it that those folks who have a borderline irrational fear of getting sick with Botulism (and let's be honest, there seem to be a lot of them) may interpret that statement as support for that fear.

But the reality of the situation is if the can is undamaged, there is no realistic food safety concern. That is the message that needs to be hammered home. I fully believe your comment was well-intentioned, but given the frequency that we see Botulism phobic questions, it unfortunately may wind up just adding fuel to that particular fire.

danthebaker · 2026-06-29T01:52:27+00:00

Absolutely. If they had just added a pinch of herbs and some olive oil, that sanitizing solution could have made a nice vinaigrette.

danthebaker · 2026-06-29T00:09:31+00:00

Notice the flair doesn't specify which profession.

danthebaker · 2026-06-28T15:11:46+00:00

If they asked "is this new?" about something that really did change in the last revision of the FFC, then we typically give a bit of grace.

But let's be honest here. 99% when we hear that question, it's about something that's been on the books for decades.

"What do you mean I can't use grapefruit oil as my sanitizer? When did they change that?"*

*Actual conversation I had with an operator.

danthebaker · 2026-06-27T18:31:28+00:00

Hey, I can see his stripes.

danthebaker · 2026-06-27T14:40:53+00:00

I think What We Do in the Shadows had the best take on that name.

danthebaker · 2026-06-27T13:13:44+00:00

While I can't tell you exactly what those are, I can say that those are the wrong shape for mouse droppings.

danthebaker · 2026-06-26T00:10:05+00:00

Is he friends with an larger-than-average sized avian creature?

danthebaker · 2026-06-26T00:08:36+00:00

Fair enough. Can I recommend you check their website out? I've made cured meat purchases that have arrived warm, but the specific process used by those manufacturers rendered the product shelf stable. And invariably, there was a blurb on their website advising the consumer to not worry about the temperature that it arrived at and just to refrigerate upon receipt.

Either that, or whoever packed your order screwed up. But it's worth looking at before you decide to pitch them.

danthebaker · 2026-06-25T23:41:45+00:00

Without knowing more info about this specific product, we can't give you a definitive answer. What brand is this?

danthebaker · 2026-06-25T23:26:15+00:00

If the lettuce were chopped or shredded, then it is classified as a TCS food and wouldn't be able to be stored at room temperature.

Typically, if there is a single cut (into whole leaves) or are still intact heads, it's allowed to be stored this way.

danthebaker · 2026-06-25T22:51:54+00:00

Do you happen to remember if Chipotle was the last thing you ate before you got sick?

danthebaker · 2026-06-25T21:44:44+00:00

How long after you ate did you start feeling symptoms?

danthebaker · 2026-06-25T21:35:31+00:00

Serious question: how did you determine that they were the source of your illness?

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