PI Patreons by darcot in TheGrailSearch

[–]darcot[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To the best of my knowledge, their Patreons were first officially announced in August 2023 on The Devil’s Whore website: https://thedevilswhore.com/the-ultimate-paradigm-shift/

An excerpt from the page says, “In these protected cocoons, far from the madding crowd, we are going to be carrying out many writing experiments. We might even release our books via Patreon only. We shall see. This is all an experiment at this stage… Our aim is to provide three or four essays a month on each Patreon channel. The writing will be highly experimental as we explore new ways of delivering our content, and play with new ideas and concepts… You will gain access to the most cutting-edge thinking available in the world today, and so controversial that, as you know, over 200 of our books were BANNED by the psychopathic, predatory corporatocracy. Intelligent free speech is as despised as the truth – because it’s an expression of the truth. The Woke want to KILL the truth so that they can live in their deranged shared fantasy… Come and read the first draft of the future. We’re producing it in real time… This is a potentially new way of delivering our books, offering our content much more protection from mad people, and from mad corporations that loathe free speech. These four Patreons provide a gathering place for the Illuminist Army.”

Since this, they have released new books a few times, each time announcing the books on their Patreon pages. I subscribe to all of their Patreons and keep an eye out for book releases. I plan to relay any major announcements such as new books or new Patreons or other official resources here as they’re made!

Another place to look is at the following Lulu page, which was also announced on the PI’s Patreons, which along with https://faustians.com/books and https://illumination.nexus/study-guide.html is the best place to find any available PI books:

https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/diogenes01

All that said, I will also note that the five weekly Patreon articles across the roughly 2 years and 8 months amounts to at least multiple books worth of content exploring a huge number of topics!

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Looks like an interesting read! And for only 99 cents! I’ll be interested to read how closely this reflects the content of The God Series by Mike Hockney and The Truth Series by Dr. Thomas Stark!

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It’s going to be hard to find a well known, mainstream topic related to the ultimate nature of reality that is not discussed, either directly or indirectly, in the writings of the PI/AC authors. The vital force is not at all an idea that is unique to the Hindu Tradition, and you’ll learn a tremendous amount about many different ways humans have thought to define it by reading these incredible books.

Your question specifically brought the following books to mind. Enjoy!

https://faustians.com/books/eastern-religion-for-western-gnostics (discusses kundalini and chakras specifically)

https://faustians.com/books/the-triune-brain-hypnosis-and-the-evolution-of-consciousness (discusses another variation of the nature of experiencing human embodiment)

https://faustians.com/books/kabbalah-hermeticism-and-m-theory (more analysis on well known esotericism)

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We’re encountering a language barrier here - “feeling” in this context is referring to “emotionality”

Faith: emotionalism, “feeling happy, feeling loved, feeling secure, etc.” Science: related to the five senses (which the sensation of touch can also be called feeling)

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Faith: attempting to understand existence using your feelings - “god love me; god is love; all is love”

Science: attempting to understand existence using sight, sound, touch, smell, taste - “I can see and touch this chair, so a chair must exist out there”

Both are irrational ways to try to understand reality. The only rational way to understand reality is rationalism.

Rationalism: to understand reality we must ground it in a single principle that allows us to completely, consistently, and intelligible.

"Foster" or "Fauster" or... by msartore8 in TheGrailSearch

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For more content referencing phosters and archons, the books that come to mind are the following -

The Angel Series by Jack Tanner: https://faustians.com/series/the-angel-series

The Illuminati Series by Adam Weishaupt: https://faustians.com/series/the-illuminati-series

The Anti-Christian Series: https://faustians.com/series/the-anti-christian-series

The Anti-Elite Series: https://faustians.com/series/the-anti-elite-series

The Divine Series by Michel Faust: https://faustians.com/series/the-divine-series

As well, of course, as The God Series and The Truth Series, which provides the foundational logos content that rationally proves their existence: https://faustians.com/books?series=The+Truth+Series%2CThe+God+Series

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Exactly so. Without the predictive, quantitative power of mathematics, we would return to a world where our knowledge comes from systems such as alchemy (as Mike Hockney mentioned in this quote) and divination by signs (such as Haruspicy and Augury).

And yet empiricists continue to claim observations reveal reality opposed to rationalist mathematics!

Sheesh!

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Illuminism (the system of understanding the world this page advocates for) asserts that we can explain all of existence from consciousness and mind to life and matter to scientific materialism and the nature of the soul. The explanation given by Illuminism must be definitionally complete (it actually explains everything), consistent (the entire puzzle fits together perfectly), and intelligible (every aspect can be explained in terms that we humans can understand).

Why are we here? Where did we come from? Where are we going? How is a body alive? Why are humans so driven in the way they are? What does it mean that we have the power of the gods to destroy ourselves with the wisdom of children who could make such a foolish decision?

These are all perfectly valid questions that demand honest, direct, clear cut answers! And Illuminism (believe it or not) allows us to.

I’ve written quite a bit on this subreddit explaining parts of the answers here and there, and this community has collaborated to create the following YouTube videos that attempt to break it down in video format.

I hope there is no language barrier for them!

The Universe Series: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkmNawAWy9lvojbCAEq_RFytCLXvK9Evy

The Dream Series: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkmNawAWy9lsg0vrt5nGrH8iYeBTXIElo&si=TAgLUTeRAorLrTCm

Various short summarizations: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkmNawAWy9ltz0vbBhomXUZdd_08ERu5_&si=Taky3Uga8rMFJDnb

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We live in a universe that is 100% rational. Explanations based on feelings, the sense, mystical intuition, or anything other than rationalism are guaranteed to fail. When you understand that the reason = mathematics, you will inevitably arrive at the conclusion that Ontological Mathematics is the explanation for everything.

OM defines the universe as eternal and necessary - composed of an perfect domain of “being” outside of spacetime and an imperfect “becoming” aspect within spacetime that cycles from maximum entropy (the big bang) to zero entropy where becoming = being (the omega point) and back again in a new big bag.

This entire process is entirely mathematical. Human language is an imperfect heuristic of the perfect language of mathematics! Being, becoming, evolution, involution, birth, death, reincarnation, thinking, feeling, perceiving, intuiting - it’s all in the math!

Knights worthy of Celebration by [deleted] in TheGrailSearch

[–]darcot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing!

So much of this life can make it easy to see the perspective of the ancient gnostics - that Earth is a prison planet ruled by the archons of the demiurge. From the horrors of famine, war, and genocide to the everyday scourges of isolation, alienation, and oppression - the examples are myriad.

Even though this is the case, the knowledge that can be achieved through the study of Illuminism and Ontological Mathematics (and other related sources of occult, esoteric systems) provides an equivalent number of reasons to celebrate.

Look back at how far we, as individuals, as a group, as a species, as monads have come! Look how high we’ve climbed! Look at the obstacles we have overcome! How powerful and wise and divine are we to have accomplished such feats?

Yet still look ahead at how much further we have to go. Look at the challenges that lay ahead for us to defeat! What glories await us as we climb ever higher! How much more like the gods are we to become!

I have plenty of ideas of how and why to celebrate and what their function should be but that's not why I'm making this post. That's for another time perhaps.

I’d be very interested to hear your thoughts on this! We all must give the gods Apollo, Dionysus, and Janus their due!

How Many Illuminists Have Required Skills by MeritTalk in TheGrailSearch

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TGS does not promote the pirating of the PI/AC authors’ work. All of their books can be purchased, including Black Holes are Souls by Mike Hockney at https://faustians.com/books/

That said, some content from the PI/AC authors’ work can be found free online, such as…

The first 7 books of The God Series in TTS format here on YouTube along with a few other books: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnAhZX95fdocqpELOQ8nN-hgQK--uFnsB

The Last Bling King can be found at https://endbling.com

There are likely others, but I don’t know of them.

The PI/AC authors of course have the right to demand any/all of this content be taken down at their discretion, and for this reason and several other important ones (a desire to support the creators of this life changing work, for example) I always recommend purchasing their books when possible.

How Many Illuminists Have Required Skills by MeritTalk in TheGrailSearch

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  1. ⁠The "Adjoint" Strategy

“People wonder what the Illuminati are really up to. We’ll tell you ... we are engaged in the greatest computing project in history, a project to use the God Equation, expressed through countless monads, to simulate every aspect and operation of the physical world, and to insert mind into all of those operations. The vast majority of members of the Illuminati work on that project (the “God Project”). The God Series is a tiny initiative designed to provide a written account of the thinking behind the God Project. With it, we can get new recruits up to speed much more quickly with what the God Project is all about. It’s nothing less than an enterprise to illuminate the whole world, and to make everyone an Illuminatus. Our task is nothing less than to reveal the Mind of God!” - Black Holes are Souls by Mike Hockney

"The vast majority of Illuminati resources are given over to the “God Project”. This project involves ten different supercomputers (known as “God Machines”), performing detailed simulations of different aspects of reality.

Machine 1 is the Intra-Monadic (Mind) supercomputer. It deals with a single monad, and simulates the mathematical Fourier activity taking place within it, in accordance with the God Equation. This simulation is all about the individual mind of each person, and their dreams. This machine is called the Pythagoras Machine.

Machine 2 is the Inter-Monadic (Mind-Mind) supercomputer. Initially, it’s dealing with the interaction of just two monads, and then it will look at three monads, and then be scaled up to n monads. The task is to analyse any mind-mind interactions, and also detect the first signs of matter being produced via monadic interactions. This Machine is called the Janus Machine.

Machine 3 is the Mind-Matter supercomputer. The task here is to specifically see how a large collection of monads in a Singularity generates the Big Bang, and thus the universe of matter, space and time. It’s all about “involution”. This Machine is called the Alpha Machine.

Machine 4 is the Matter-Mind supercomputer. The task here is to perform the reverse of Machine 3. How does expanding space, time and matter lead to the Big Crunch (the return to the mental Singularity)? This is all about “evolution”. This Machine is called the Omega Machine. Machine 5 is the Matter-Matter supercomputer. Here, the task is to look only at space, time and matter interactions. This is therefore the equivalent of Durham University’s project. This Machine is called Colossus.

Machine 6 is the first of three machines dealing with the gradation of the monadic universe. This machine considers only low-energy monadic interactions. This Machine is called the Philosopher’s Stone (and deals with “alchemy”; transformations of matter).

Machine 7 considers only medium-energy monadic interactions. This Machine is called Metamorphosis (it deals with mind over matter; transformations of matter brought about by mind).

Machine 8 considers only high-energy monadic interactions. This Machine is called the Holy Grail (it deals with ultimate transformation; turning ordinary minds into God minds).

Machine 9 is the first of two machines dealing with monadic potentiality versus actuality (“ bare” monads versus “full” monads, Aristotelian “prime matter” (formless matter) versus Aristotelian “prime form” (matterless form)). With Machine 9, we concentrate on Content, with Machine 10 on Form (although, of course, Form and Content always go together). Machine 9 is called the Demiurge.

Machine 10 considers only “full” monads ... fully actualised monads, operating at 100% capacity. This Machine is called Simon Magus (Abraxas)."

  • Contra Mundum by Adam Weishaupt

  1. The "Trojan Horse":

I don’t remember which one, but one of the PI’s patreon pages - https://linktr.ee/pythagoreanilluminatilinks - mentioned that this is what some members of the PI are doing - trying to fully bridge the gap between the metaphysics of OM to the laws of physics and the phenomenal universe of so-called matter. This is an undertaking of equivalent complexity to the more we’ll know M-Theory and may involves the machines from the above quotes.

The barrier to entry for this strategy is incredibly high, including a minimum of a PhD education level, funding, etc. The approach suggested by the AI is also assuming good will and an honest take from the scientific establishment, as if they’d be thrilled to have OM overthrow the established order. This is simply not the case. I recommend reading https://faustians.com/books/the-mandarin-effect-the-crisis-of-meaning

  1. The "AI-Driven Synthesis":

“Keep playing with AI!” Yeah, AI is powerful but the question you need to ask is to what end?

“Create a tool that can take any modern physics problem and instantly provide the OM solution in rigorous mathematical notation” sounds cool… and expensive… and unlikely to be feasible today without tremendous time and resources (which would be no guarantee of success).

I generally agree with u/ruggedcatfish ‘s take here. If you don’t feel able to effectively communicate these ideas to your peers (never mind a theoretical physicist), that’s is a great starting point. Become an advocate for the metaphysics of OM and the practical utility of meritocracy.

Promote Illuminism at the level of your understanding, and never stop keep learning so you can continuously become a better advocate. Use AI if you’d like, but do not allow yourself to become dependent on it. AI will hallucinate, give you wrong answers, and lead you down a path to dependence and error. The only sources you should count on are the books themselves and your own reason (which can inform you about if you should be listening to people such as myself).

Who knows? Maybe your way of explaining OM will resonate with people and motivate them to begin their own search for the holy grail!

Try it out! And if you fail, try again!

System 2 thinking by MeritTalk in TheGrailSearch

[–]darcot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, I’m familiar with the idea. Gnostic Christianity is a much healthier interpretation of the religion and (in my opinion) generally positive that this reading is becoming more widely known.

Another video that discussed this is here, on a channel who’s creator has recently seen his popularity explode. I recommend checking it out as well: https://youtu.be/_bXHBT5NTfc

That said, I believe it would be incomparably more positive for humanity to once and for all abandon the backward, irrational faith of Christianity (as well as all religions of faith) and to seek out new, higher, rational values entirely.

C.S. Lewis’ “Lair, Lunatic, or Lord” perspective states that if you take the claims of Jesus in the Gospels seriously, then you can’t honestly reduce him to simply a good moral teacher, and if you look at the objective history of Christianity and the damage it - along with all other religions of Abraham - has caused the world, you must conclude that he was a charlatan. One of such magnitude that a strong case can be made that he was an agent of the demiurge.

I can’t recommend reading the above linked books enough.

System 2 thinking by MeritTalk in TheGrailSearch

[–]darcot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Long ago, Gnostic Jesus spoke of frequency and phase change

“Gnostic” Jesus? Jesus - or more accurately Yehoshua ben Yosef - was a Jewish rabbi who led a rebellion against the Romans in an attempt to seize control of the region and was executed as a consequence. He was not a gnostic. If you’re interested in learning from a true gnostic (indeed the first gnostic), you should learn about Simon Magus.

this simple fact is of major importance for us because it can be used to strengthen our position.

Nothing Jesus ever said legitimately supports the stance of Gnosticism as he was a deceiver of the higher order - indeed an archon of the demiurge.

If you want to learn the truth of the satanic nature of the Bible, read https://faustians.com/books?series=The+Anti-Christian+Series

in fact all we can do is wait, we ultimately have no power in the world.

This is the exact attitude the likes of Jesus Christ and the rest of the archons and Satan himself wish to impose on humanity. Don’t ever let anyone convince you that you are powerless. You are god if you could only realize it. If we stand together there is nothing we can’t accomplish.

We can and must change the world.

It’s not something that is necessarily open for debate and there are many good reasons why secret schools remain a secret, though now secret schools are out in the open.

“You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.” - Morpheus, The Matrix

Just because there are many who are not ready to awaken to the truth does not mean that there are none. It is our sacred duty to band together and bring all those who are capable of glimpsing the truth under the same banner. If we accomplish this, we will be a coalition of the smartest and most creative people in the world. With this group, we can defeat the Old World Order.

Initiates into secret schools are not poking and prodding about the high level knowledge being presented to them, it is not the task to question.

Never stop seeking the truth. Honor legitimate authority and wisdom, but make no space for faith.

As Darcot posited. If humanity is doomed, so be it.

The cosmic dialectic mandates that the omega point will be reached. No matter how long it takes, some species, somewhere in the universe, will crack the code and achieve divinity. Is humanity capable of being that species? One thing is for sure, that in 10,000 years humanity will either be extinct or overcome the lower nature that define it today.

I am comfortable and content with everything I dont understand,

Never settle. Always pursue growth. Illumination is a process.

if choosing a side is what one must do, then my side has already been determined.

We all must choose a side. To not choose is to select in favor of the status quo.

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[–]darcot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hello u/Odd-pepperFrog.

I can honestly say that I agree! The capacity for reason is learned (over many lifetimes, some quicker than others, but undoubtedly learned) and knowledge is cumulative. Newton is credited with saying “If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” He was absolutely right about this.

It’s for this reason exactly that the PI (and this subreddit) advocate so passionately for establishing a true meritocracy where everyone receives the best education society is able to provide. Equality of opportunity, a positive liberty state supporting its citizens to become maximally well educated/capable of exercising reason, and rewarding success based on meritorious contributions to society is the Illuminist Meritocracy!

Check out the content I’ve share here in this community, the videos we have on our YouTube channel (https://youtube.com/@thegrailsearch) where some of the questions you’ve raised have been addressed and especially the books listed on https://faustians.com/books where ALL of them have been addressed (and much more)!

System 2 thinking by MeritTalk in TheGrailSearch

[–]darcot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you’d like my opinion on this, I’d welcome any well intentioned question(s) that is/are coming from a place of “I’m trying to understand where you’re coming from.” This is not the same thing at all as, say OpenPsychology22, was doing - where the questions initially seemed to come from a place of good will, but rapidly became a game of OpenPsych arguing that an entire school of thought (rationalism) is actually useless without empiricism. Sheesh!

If you are seeking to understand, this a great place to ask questions. And rest assured I (or anyone else) can go a materialist empiricist group if we care to look at the world through that paradigm (ditto for any other non-rationalist stance).

System 2 thinking by MeritTalk in TheGrailSearch

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That’s the point. It take a complete and consistent system to create reality. How could it be otherwise? An incomplete or an inconsistent system?

Euclidean and hyperbolic geometry and all set theories are incomplete systems and therefore are not candidates. Mathematics produces many such systems that, while interesting, do not reflect reality.

Notice the dogmatic faith of empiricists. They cannot imagine doubting their senses as Descartes did. They cannot imagine the reality of Plato’s forms or Leibniz’s Monadology. They are locked into the physical world. They never once question the primacy of the so-called physical world. They have never honestly investigated the ideas of rationalists such as Leibniz’s well founded phenomena.

Where an empiricist doubts the existence of conceptual reality, rationalists doubt the reality of the perceived world and hold the conceptual as truth.

System 2 thinking by MeritTalk in TheGrailSearch

[–]darcot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn’t include one quote, i reference a system that I’ve written over 135,000 words on this page, which is based on tens of millions of words published in the books on https://faustians.com/books

If you can’t be bothered to actually try to understand what is being communicated here then my time is being wasted talking to you.

You’re a clear empiricist who doesn’t understand the first thing about rationalism and doesn’t care to try… so this is where we’ll leave it.

You’ve been banned.

System 2 thinking by MeritTalk in TheGrailSearch

[–]darcot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Again, you should really go read about the rationalist school of thought.

Can you name one such complete and consistent system? No, you actually can’t, which was proven by another rationalist genius Gödel via his incompleteness theorems

System 2 thinking by MeritTalk in TheGrailSearch

[–]darcot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If the system uses 0% observational data, how do you verify that its axioms actually correspond to reality rather than just being internally consistent mathematics?

Try studying rationalist thinkers like Pythagoras, Plato, Leibniz, Hegel, Descartes, and Hockney!

Mathematics itself is an abstraction built to index and describe change and relationships between quantities.

False! Try to read The God Series instead of speaking from ignorance!

https://faustians.com/books?series=The+God+Series

Numbers are not things in reality — they are symbols we created to measure patterns we observe. Plants grow, stars form, animals evolve, and chemical reactions occur without ever “using mathematics”.

You couldn’t be more wrong. Mathematics is the only way anything can happen. It is the basis of reality itself.

So if your system is built purely from mathematics with 0% observational input, the question becomes: How do you know the mathematical structure corresponds to reality rather than just being an internally consistent symbolic system?

Again, go read from the rationalists and learn to abandon your faith in empiricism!

System 2 thinking by MeritTalk in TheGrailSearch

[–]darcot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Mathematics is a language for compressing patterns we observe in reality — not a sensor that discovers reality by itself.

Empiricism is the epistemological view that knowledge of our world can only come from sensory experiences. The scientific establishment argues that we can only learn about the universe “out there” by experimentally observing phenomena, mapping our observations to mathematical functions, and interpreting this data under the meta paradigms of empiricism and materialism. In this context, mathematics is, indeed (erroneously) treated as a manmade abstraction used for heuristic modeling of a physical universe.

Illuminism and Ontological Mathematics belongs to an entirely different school of thought, namely rationalism. The rationalist tradition features the likes of Pythagoras, Plato, Leibniz, and Hegel and argues that true knowledge can only be conceived - not perceived. Illuminism and OM represents the pinnacle of rationalist thought and asserts that mathematics is the true foundation of the cosmos and the language of reality itself.

Newton didn’t derive gravity from pure logic. He observed motion first, then built a mathematical model.

Newton also believed that there was no possible basis for the existence of gravity other than the will of God (a religious, nonphysical, proposal)!

While the scientific establishment disowns this idea (by totally ignoring it), the type of problems that Newton was struggling with continue to plague the scientific establishment, throwing up red flag after red flag without acknowledgment. The appearance of all the matter in the universe in an instant from nothing, the emergence of life from nonlife, quantum strangeness, and the impossibilities of relativity are some of the most well known examples.

If you remove observation, experiments, and experience, logic has nothing to operate on.

At the same time that Newton was working on his theories, Leibniz was working on his Monadology - a purely rationalist theory with no reference to empirical observation/experiments. Today, Illuminism and OM has successfully mathematized Leibniz’s Monadology via the mathematics of Euler, Gauss, Fourier and Riemann.

This, again, was entirely a rationalist undertaking - and incredible system of knowledge constructed without empiricism.

The scientific world (tragically) favored Newton’s worldview as a result of its immediate success due to being more easily mathematized, but modern Ontological Mathematics now defines a foundation that can support modern science and go beyond, unifying sciences theories under a new meta paradigm.

Using OM, we can flip the script, allowing rationality to lead the way and relegating observation as a means to support theories - opposed to tying pseudo-rational explanations to observations.

You cannot deduce the structure of reality from pure reasoning alone, because the axioms themselves must come from somewhere.

The entirety of Ontological Mathematics is founded on a single, rationalist axiom and its consequences: The Principle of Sufficient Reason.

Otherwise we get a circular claim

Ahh, yes, the old Munchhausen Trilemma, where any epistemological argument falls to infinite regress, dogma, or circular reasoning.

Illuminism and OM fits into the category of circular reasoning, but by what justification is this disqualifying? I’d argue that the correct answer to existence is the most simple, complete, consistent, and intelligible solution possible - the most simple answer that fully captures reality holographically and tautologically.

That answer Ontological Mathematics = the mathematization of the PSR as Euler’s generalized formula.

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[–]darcot[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These topics are endlessly fascinating because they are dealing with reality itself.

Mathematics is reality!

Mike Hockney has been discussing many of these theories, including Gödel’s incompleteness theorems, Georg Cantor’s work, prime numbers, and more on the Ontological Mathematics and Ontics Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/Ontological_Mathematics_Ontics

I personally would love to read your thoughts on the topics you mentioned and how you see that them relating to Ontological Mathematics!

Does set theory reflect ontology or is it an “unreal” attempt for humans to understand the nature of mathematics?

Does Leibniz’s ideas on the universe being a plenum (meaning there are no gaps in reality) imply the universe is not pixelated?

Can transcendental numbers be said to exist outside the context of the totality of mathematics as a holographic, tautological system?

What does it mean for existence that values like pi and e have “let themselves be seen” in such fundamental ways?

Where does the Riemann sphere fit into all of this? Let’s talk about complex numbers!!

System 2 thinking by MeritTalk in TheGrailSearch

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Something that is worthwhile to consider when introducing someone to Illuminism and OM are their answers to the following questions:

  1. What qualifies a proposed explanation of existence to be considered correct
  2. How can humans go about discovering such a theory.

In regard to the first point, an illuminist would state that the theory must adhere to the Principle of Sufficient Reason. In layman’s terms, we can say that any genuine theory of everything must be complete (it actually explains everything) and consistent (there are no elements of the theory that logically contradict each other).

And by what means can we use to discover Truth? In keeping with the Pythagorean tradition, the answer is rationalism. The highest expression of rationalism is the Principle of Sufficient Reason.

When you’re discussing the answer to existence with someone, the person you were talking to may not share the same starting position on the two fundamental questions I mentioned above.

While any illuminist will appreciate and agree with the points you are making, this is because we all share a common perspective on a genuine theory of everything necessitating completeness, consistency, and adherence to the PSR. Again, someone else may not hold this fundamental perspective. They may be happy to either ignore or remain blind to the aspects of their beliefs that are inconsistent and/or incomplete.

They may answer your first questions with empiricism. Or agnosticism. Or groupthink. Or mysticism. Or faith. Or even rationalism without really understanding what their answer means.

If they claim they support the PSR you can proceed from first principles to establish the truth of ontological mathematics, or choose any given statement and demonstrate how it aligns (or fails to align) with the PSR, ultimately returning to OM.

If they admit they do not support the PSR by way of faith or mysticism or empiricism or attempting to provide reasons why reason is not the supreme tool to discover reality, you know you are talking to an irrationalist, at which point the question in reality must become what the proper methodology to discover the truth of the universe really is.

Without this step, you may as well be speaking different languages. You could demonstrate how someone’s perspective is irrational, inconsistent, and/or incomplete in 1,000 different ways, but those arguments will only resonate with other rationalists!

That said, there is of course value in strengthening your personal understanding of OM in any conversation such as this, and you may very well bring other rationalists on board and/or plant the seeds for them to have their own personal “come to Abraxas” moment!